Full Fat Range Rover Vogue SE (2010 L322, TDV8)
Discussion
Thanks all
On MPG - it's OK. You hear lots of (the 3.6/6spd) owners say they easily do 30mpg on a run but I think you'd have to be very restrained and stick to 70mph to achieve that. My real world is ~20mile A/B road commutes and pottering around, where it gets 25mpg.
Bobupndown said:
Beautiful RR, still think these late L322s are nicer than the L405 that replaced it. Nice colour and spec too. I do plenty of home mechanicing on a variety of cars but the potential bills on one of these is frightening and puts me off having one. Sticking with my Freelander 2 'mini range rover' for now.
Agreed. However a big pro of the L405 is it's all-aluminium, whereas the L322 only has ally doors, wings and bonnet and the main structure/tailgate is steel, which predictably rusts. I'd have gone for an early L405 SDV8 but the price difference put stop to that.lost in espace said:
I had a similar silver one until recently, the auto started to slip when cold so I got rid. A flush might have fixed it, but I decided the tax was too high and the mpg too low. Take the rear arch liners out and pull back the sill covers at the rear. There will be some corrosion, and a double/triple skinned area in the front of the rear wheel arches/sills, check this area carefully and clean it of any dirt and stick some cavity wax in.
Some great tips here. I plan to derust/rust proof mine over the course of this summer.Dcadders said:
The only thing stopping me getting a FFRR is the fact I know that renewing a 600 RFL yearly and giving the chancellor even more if my cash would frustrate the hell out of me…
It's £630 per annum now, £661 if paid by direct debit, courtesy of the 5% rise in April. My man maths says enjoy them why it's this cheap as the RFL is only going one way for cars like these.SiT said:
What an amazing thread, the colour is beautiful
Funny enough like others on this thread I am looking to come back to the LR fold due to horse towing duties, was looking for another Sport again but seeing your Vogue my head has been turned.
I understand your engine is ‘the one’ in terms of reliability etc, your MPG is also impressive. I only go to the office twice a week so that’s not so much of an issue and paying too rate tax on my 997 so already de-sensitised.
Si
Thank you Si. I looked a RR Sports as their price point is very tempting. But I kept coming back to the fullfat RR and wanted the TDV8.Funny enough like others on this thread I am looking to come back to the LR fold due to horse towing duties, was looking for another Sport again but seeing your Vogue my head has been turned.
I understand your engine is ‘the one’ in terms of reliability etc, your MPG is also impressive. I only go to the office twice a week so that’s not so much of an issue and paying too rate tax on my 997 so already de-sensitised.
Si
On MPG - it's OK. You hear lots of (the 3.6/6spd) owners say they easily do 30mpg on a run but I think you'd have to be very restrained and stick to 70mph to achieve that. My real world is ~20mile A/B road commutes and pottering around, where it gets 25mpg.
G111MDS said:
Another person here that really enjoys your Volvo thread, and looking forward to following this one too.
Thanks!TurboRob said:
The Range Rover got put to use moving something that I couldn't fit (upright) in to the Volvo:
I like the built-in lash down points in the boot. The deadlift to that height not so much.
Your missing a part..I like the built-in lash down points in the boot. The deadlift to that height not so much.
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Edited by surveyor on Tuesday 24th May 09:42
Thanks both - the colour is growing on me.
I had my gearbox oil 'powerflushed' by the eminent expert Ian Bodsworth (UpdatesbyBodsy) - a chap who comes to your house and does it on your drive. He disconnects the feed to the gearbox oil cooler and connects this to a drain, then connects a new feed from a machine mounted in the back of his van that pumps fresh oil in to the system and drives the old out. Whilst the machine is in operation he runs the gearbox through the gears (with engine running), this flushing the whole box and the torque converter.
Whilst up on ramps/under there he also replaced the diff oils and transfer box.
I didn't think there was much wrong with the box beforehand, no thunks or excessive slip, but post oil change the shifts between gears are much sharper and the torque converter locks up sooner.
I had my gearbox oil 'powerflushed' by the eminent expert Ian Bodsworth (UpdatesbyBodsy) - a chap who comes to your house and does it on your drive. He disconnects the feed to the gearbox oil cooler and connects this to a drain, then connects a new feed from a machine mounted in the back of his van that pumps fresh oil in to the system and drives the old out. Whilst the machine is in operation he runs the gearbox through the gears (with engine running), this flushing the whole box and the torque converter.
Whilst up on ramps/under there he also replaced the diff oils and transfer box.
I didn't think there was much wrong with the box beforehand, no thunks or excessive slip, but post oil change the shifts between gears are much sharper and the torque converter locks up sooner.
SiT said:
Anymore updates on this?!? Found a beauty of a 4.4TDV8 and a re-read of this thread hasn’t helped me a jot!
The horse box needs dragging around the countryside, we need something bigger than a Fiat 500 (Mrs Sits car!) and at the moment an L322 excites me……
Si
None Si, she's running lovely and a joy to cruise around in. The horse box needs dragging around the countryside, we need something bigger than a Fiat 500 (Mrs Sits car!) and at the moment an L322 excites me……
Si
Currently sat in it watching Wimbledon whilst the girlf does who knows what in the shops....
Get one bought!
TurboRob said:
AndrewCrown said:
Wheel Nut Corrosion
On discussion with LR parts dept, the wheelnuts have a thin metal cover over them…overtime water gets underneath and the whole unit expands just a few microns…sufficient to cause the problem.
Thanks Andrew - according to the history that came with the car, the wheel nuts (all of them!) were replaced four times in the first 100k miles/whilst it was serviced at LR. I presume the car was under a warranty of some type and these were all claims...On discussion with LR parts dept, the wheelnuts have a thin metal cover over them…overtime water gets underneath and the whole unit expands just a few microns…sufficient to cause the problem.
One of the first things I did was go round and un-torque/re-torque all the wheelnuts. Two of my 20 were slightly soft - they do indeed corrode/swell under the thin chrome covers
TurboRob said:
None Si, she's running lovely and a joy to cruise around in.
Currently sat in it watching Wimbledon whilst the girlf does who knows what in the shops....
Get one bought!
Nice!!! I am viewing one on Weds!!!!! Any tips? It’s a 4.4 TDV8 Vogue and looks immaculate - we’ll see!Currently sat in it watching Wimbledon whilst the girlf does who knows what in the shops....
Get one bought!
Si
SiT said:
TurboRob said:
None Si, she's running lovely and a joy to cruise around in.
Currently sat in it watching Wimbledon whilst the girlf does who knows what in the shops....
Get one bought!
Nice!!! I am viewing one on Weds!!!!! Any tips? It’s a 4.4 TDV8 Vogue and looks immaculate - we’ll see!Currently sat in it watching Wimbledon whilst the girlf does who knows what in the shops....
Get one bought!
Si
Including the rear seat vents. My HVAC in my last L322 never worked properly. The dash was removed to fix a fan motor, the rear vents would not turn off.
The bonnet and tailgate struts were on their last legs - both soft/failing to hold up, and the rears looking scabby - so I replaced them. Not the most exciting tales, but a quick/easy replacement of parts that make the car feel newer.
I got a 'kit' of all 4 from a LR specialist called PowerfulUK. They're unmarked so I'm assuming cheap and cheerful:
They're the standard balljoint-retained-by-a-circlip fittings at each end. Takes seconds with the right tools and a shoulder to balance the weight of the bonnet/boot on.
Front:
Rear - scabby:
Replaced:
The only two tools I used - a pick to pull the circlip out and a trim removal tool to pop the balljoint off:
I got a 'kit' of all 4 from a LR specialist called PowerfulUK. They're unmarked so I'm assuming cheap and cheerful:
They're the standard balljoint-retained-by-a-circlip fittings at each end. Takes seconds with the right tools and a shoulder to balance the weight of the bonnet/boot on.
Front:
Rear - scabby:
Replaced:
The only two tools I used - a pick to pull the circlip out and a trim removal tool to pop the balljoint off:
MOT time for the L322, and my first with the car. The place where I MOT is friendly - they let you stand and watch and have a look around/under the car whilst it's up on the ramps. The owner of the garage has a couple of L322's of his own so knows his way around, and it was certainly the most forensic MOT I've seen done on a car...
Here he jacked it up as high as he could so he could inspect the top of the rear subframe and the brake lines that go over it, via the wheel arches. These are both items that corrode, unseen, apparently.
A clean bill of health bar some play in a front balljoint - good news.
I set about replacing the front lower arm that had the the worn balljoint - this turned in to a mission; I couldn't split the balljoint for love nor money. Over the years I've picked-up many a balljoint splitter, and thought I knew all the tricks (e.g. lump hammer dead blow, heat, etc) but this one wasn't budging.
The full arsenal was out and in force.
I nearly threw the towel in and called a mobile mechanic, but a bit of googling found a balljoint fork that was perfectly sized ( Laser 5496) which I ordered then went full medieval on:
(Not shown in this pic is the sledge hammer I swung to beat the balljoint splitter in with)
With a new arm fitted, and everything back together I celebrated by buying and fitting some new wheels and tyres to the car.
The tyres I had on were coming to the end of their life, and I really wanted to get the wheels refurbed + go up a size to 55 profiles so I could benefit from the latest Land Rover specific Pirelli Scorpions - these feature quite a bit of new tech in e.g. PNCS. My plan was to but a second set of ratty wheels and tyres to keep the car rolling whilst the originals were being refurbed, but one beer lead to another and I ended-up buying a set of nearly new L405 wheels and tyres in the spec I wanted:
It seems that lots of L405 owners take these off in order to fit 22" wheels with lower profile tyres on, as such there is a glut of the the 20" wheels and tyres for sale making them excellent value for L322 owners.
I've plonked them on for now whilst the original wheels are being refurbed, I'll then swap the new tyres across to those wheels once back.
Here he jacked it up as high as he could so he could inspect the top of the rear subframe and the brake lines that go over it, via the wheel arches. These are both items that corrode, unseen, apparently.
A clean bill of health bar some play in a front balljoint - good news.
I set about replacing the front lower arm that had the the worn balljoint - this turned in to a mission; I couldn't split the balljoint for love nor money. Over the years I've picked-up many a balljoint splitter, and thought I knew all the tricks (e.g. lump hammer dead blow, heat, etc) but this one wasn't budging.
The full arsenal was out and in force.
I nearly threw the towel in and called a mobile mechanic, but a bit of googling found a balljoint fork that was perfectly sized ( Laser 5496) which I ordered then went full medieval on:
(Not shown in this pic is the sledge hammer I swung to beat the balljoint splitter in with)
With a new arm fitted, and everything back together I celebrated by buying and fitting some new wheels and tyres to the car.
The tyres I had on were coming to the end of their life, and I really wanted to get the wheels refurbed + go up a size to 55 profiles so I could benefit from the latest Land Rover specific Pirelli Scorpions - these feature quite a bit of new tech in e.g. PNCS. My plan was to but a second set of ratty wheels and tyres to keep the car rolling whilst the originals were being refurbed, but one beer lead to another and I ended-up buying a set of nearly new L405 wheels and tyres in the spec I wanted:
It seems that lots of L405 owners take these off in order to fit 22" wheels with lower profile tyres on, as such there is a glut of the the 20" wheels and tyres for sale making them excellent value for L322 owners.
I've plonked them on for now whilst the original wheels are being refurbed, I'll then swap the new tyres across to those wheels once back.
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