Full Fat Range Rover Vogue SE (2010 L322, TDV8)
Discussion
SiT said:
Anymore updates on this?!? Found a beauty of a 4.4TDV8 and a re-read of this thread hasn’t helped me a jot!
The horse box needs dragging around the countryside, we need something bigger than a Fiat 500 (Mrs Sits car!) and at the moment an L322 excites me……
Si
2011 to 2015The horse box needs dragging around the countryside, we need something bigger than a Fiat 500 (Mrs Sits car!) and at the moment an L322 excites me……
Si
3.0 liter V6 Touareg.
245 BHP, easily mapped to 300.
540 Tq, easily mapped to over 600
300 miles motorway cruising, low 40 mpg. - seriously, very good
VED just £265, Blue Motion, stop start stuff.
Pulls anything you care to hook on the back.
Accelebrate said:
Glad you got the ball joint separated. Have you noticed any reduction in cabin noise with the new tyres?
I held back on replying to this until I'd given them some decent mileage, but the answer is yes - and remarkably so. The L322 is a quiet place as-is, but these tyres have taken it a step further - gone are lots of sounds that I never realised where there/I'd become so used to them I'd stopped noticing. Example - change of tarmac sections on motorways; the 'din' just isn't there in the first place.G111MDS said:
Lovely big wagon this, Like your Volvo too ??
Managed to squeeze a 4 day weekend in Devon at last minute, and lucked-in on amazing weather too. With a new addition to the household, the L322 is a great family car for trips like this as it swallows up all the associated crap that comes with babies. I think I've said it before on this thread, but the split tailgate means you can ram stuff in, close the bottom half, ram more stuff in then shut the upper...
Below is a pushchair, carrycot, ahead of them is a moses basket, and bags/cases for 3 people for 4 days.
Tailgate up and I could probably get the load cover down if I tried. This then leaves the cabin clear for the inevitable emergency pitstops for feeds/changes en-route.
We'd picked an Airbnb cottage in a remote location, down the usual very narrow Devon lanes. The L322 is surprisingly not that wide or wieldy - it didn't feel anymore so than the XC70. It was a squeeze on the small parking space the cottage had, with a working dairy farm next door needing to squeeze farm stuff past regularly too:
As mentioned, the weather was smashing, and we managed to get a bit of a tour in to a few different beaches:
Journey's end was just shy of 500 miles, 27mpg average and a thoroughly enjoyable trip.
The L322's ability to get on a motorway, stick the active cruise control on and devour miles is very impressive.
Below is a pushchair, carrycot, ahead of them is a moses basket, and bags/cases for 3 people for 4 days.
Tailgate up and I could probably get the load cover down if I tried. This then leaves the cabin clear for the inevitable emergency pitstops for feeds/changes en-route.
We'd picked an Airbnb cottage in a remote location, down the usual very narrow Devon lanes. The L322 is surprisingly not that wide or wieldy - it didn't feel anymore so than the XC70. It was a squeeze on the small parking space the cottage had, with a working dairy farm next door needing to squeeze farm stuff past regularly too:
As mentioned, the weather was smashing, and we managed to get a bit of a tour in to a few different beaches:
Journey's end was just shy of 500 miles, 27mpg average and a thoroughly enjoyable trip.
The L322's ability to get on a motorway, stick the active cruise control on and devour miles is very impressive.
Cheers. And yes, it's been a handy changing table much to the delight of other layby users...
Continuing the theme of weekends away, took the Range Rover up to the Lincolnshire coast for a four day break to see relatives. Blessed with another weekend of extraordinary weather, we spent the weekend visiting various secluded beaches.
c.400 miles and again, 27mpg trip average.
Continuing the theme of weekends away, took the Range Rover up to the Lincolnshire coast for a four day break to see relatives. Blessed with another weekend of extraordinary weather, we spent the weekend visiting various secluded beaches.
c.400 miles and again, 27mpg trip average.
I have been lazy keeping this thread up to date, so here's a bumper edition.
Continuing the theme of long weekends away in the L322, in November we did four days in Lancashire - in and around the Ribble valley. The L322 managed a surprising 33mpg on the way up, and overall trip average of 30mpg over 400 miles.
In December we had a dusting of snow and a deep freeze for a week. The L322 started on the button and I particularly liked the preheat function - a small fuel burning heater that you can activate from a fob before you head out, warming the interior through.
There was something reassuring about seeing the L322 outside in the snow, ready to go anywhere:
After one of the -7degC nights, with frozen snow on the car/windscreen, the drivers side wiper linkage popped off the ball joint. Bit of a weird one - it was just dangling down under the scuttle. Here it is reattached (LHS of image behind the scuttle drain - it popped straight back on):
At the time I thought water had leaked from the scuttle drain in to the ball and socket, and then frozen, causing it to pop off. More on this later...
Over xmas I went round the car and replaced all the wheel nuts with fresh ones. Some were getting soft/swelling so an imperial 12 sided socket hammered-on made light work:
A 20+stone mate sat on the tailgate and snapped one of the straps. This is pretty common as the HT wire corrodes under the plastic sheath. I replaced both sides with new, bathing them in dinitrol before fitting:
The L322 has a pretty neat intake system - part of the Land Rover approach to making them half decent offroad. In this case, to maximise wading depth, the air inlets are through the inner wing via the famous vents in the wing behind the front wheel, but also this intake between bonnet and wing:
The airbox then feeds from the inner wing via this hole:
Mine was missing the rubber boot between air filter box and inner wing, which for some reason was triggering my OCD for all things mechanical. I ordered a replacement from JLR and fitted, allowing me to sleep at night again:
After the week of very cold weathers it then got mild quickly, and the headlights misted up:
Taping silica bags to the inside of the bulb-access hatches for a week or so cured this.
Another long UK weekend away in January saw me heading down to Newlyn in Cornwall after work on a Friday night. As I went past Exeter it started to properly rain and as I went over Bodmin Moor the drivers side wiper decided that it wanted freedom from the rest of the wiper system again and stopped in the middle of the screen. The passenger wiper continued its arc, until it reached the stationary drivers wiper and they became entangled and ultimately bent/broken.
I stopped at the next layby where I got the passenger side sorted but the drivers was buggered for good this time.
Fortunately the rest of the family had travelled down a few days earlier so didn't have to partake in the remainder of the journey down the A30 in the middle of the night, horizontal rain and flooded roads. With one wiper.
The rest of the weekend was pleasant and sunny/calm, and the L322 delivered 26mpg over 600 miles:
When I got home the following week I set about stripping the wipers down to get them repaired and sorted:
Getting the whole assembly out and on to the bench in the garage allowed me to see the cause of the balljoint separating on the wiper linkage was an excessively worn (plastic) socket on the arm. The rest of the assembly was all good so I made a stainless sleeve that fits over the female (socket) arm and located the male (ball) joint back in to the socket, then lock wired this in place, making it fit for a further 160k miles:
Which brings us up to date for high-mileage L322 ownership. Still love it
Continuing the theme of long weekends away in the L322, in November we did four days in Lancashire - in and around the Ribble valley. The L322 managed a surprising 33mpg on the way up, and overall trip average of 30mpg over 400 miles.
Accelebrate said:
Congratulations on the new addition! The fold down tailgate looks like a perfect mobile changing table.
A la:In December we had a dusting of snow and a deep freeze for a week. The L322 started on the button and I particularly liked the preheat function - a small fuel burning heater that you can activate from a fob before you head out, warming the interior through.
There was something reassuring about seeing the L322 outside in the snow, ready to go anywhere:
After one of the -7degC nights, with frozen snow on the car/windscreen, the drivers side wiper linkage popped off the ball joint. Bit of a weird one - it was just dangling down under the scuttle. Here it is reattached (LHS of image behind the scuttle drain - it popped straight back on):
At the time I thought water had leaked from the scuttle drain in to the ball and socket, and then frozen, causing it to pop off. More on this later...
Over xmas I went round the car and replaced all the wheel nuts with fresh ones. Some were getting soft/swelling so an imperial 12 sided socket hammered-on made light work:
AndrewCrown said:
Wheel Nut Corrosion
Whilst you are upgrading everything. I came a cropper with an emergency on road tyre change recently.
Inexplicably the LR supplied, original and unused wheelbrace would not fit the OEM wheel nuts.
Luckily i was helped by a passerby with a brace that fitted.
On discussion with LR parts dept, the wheelnuts have a thin metal cover over them…overtime water gets underneath and the whole unit expands just a few microns…sufficient to cause the problem.
Thank you for the heads up Andrew Whilst you are upgrading everything. I came a cropper with an emergency on road tyre change recently.
Inexplicably the LR supplied, original and unused wheelbrace would not fit the OEM wheel nuts.
Luckily i was helped by a passerby with a brace that fitted.
On discussion with LR parts dept, the wheelnuts have a thin metal cover over them…overtime water gets underneath and the whole unit expands just a few microns…sufficient to cause the problem.
A 20+stone mate sat on the tailgate and snapped one of the straps. This is pretty common as the HT wire corrodes under the plastic sheath. I replaced both sides with new, bathing them in dinitrol before fitting:
The L322 has a pretty neat intake system - part of the Land Rover approach to making them half decent offroad. In this case, to maximise wading depth, the air inlets are through the inner wing via the famous vents in the wing behind the front wheel, but also this intake between bonnet and wing:
The airbox then feeds from the inner wing via this hole:
Mine was missing the rubber boot between air filter box and inner wing, which for some reason was triggering my OCD for all things mechanical. I ordered a replacement from JLR and fitted, allowing me to sleep at night again:
After the week of very cold weathers it then got mild quickly, and the headlights misted up:
Taping silica bags to the inside of the bulb-access hatches for a week or so cured this.
Another long UK weekend away in January saw me heading down to Newlyn in Cornwall after work on a Friday night. As I went past Exeter it started to properly rain and as I went over Bodmin Moor the drivers side wiper decided that it wanted freedom from the rest of the wiper system again and stopped in the middle of the screen. The passenger wiper continued its arc, until it reached the stationary drivers wiper and they became entangled and ultimately bent/broken.
I stopped at the next layby where I got the passenger side sorted but the drivers was buggered for good this time.
Fortunately the rest of the family had travelled down a few days earlier so didn't have to partake in the remainder of the journey down the A30 in the middle of the night, horizontal rain and flooded roads. With one wiper.
The rest of the weekend was pleasant and sunny/calm, and the L322 delivered 26mpg over 600 miles:
When I got home the following week I set about stripping the wipers down to get them repaired and sorted:
Getting the whole assembly out and on to the bench in the garage allowed me to see the cause of the balljoint separating on the wiper linkage was an excessively worn (plastic) socket on the arm. The rest of the assembly was all good so I made a stainless sleeve that fits over the female (socket) arm and located the male (ball) joint back in to the socket, then lock wired this in place, making it fit for a further 160k miles:
Which brings us up to date for high-mileage L322 ownership. Still love it
Love it! I’m on my second L322 after a 2012 TDV8 I now have a 2010 low mile 5.0 Autobiography
Your colour is so lovely, so nice to see one not black.
However I have a question on the drivers seat
It’s Stornaway Grey with charcoal and ivory.
It’s only on 65k but I’m anyone’s opinion what can be done with the drivers seat?
Your colour is so lovely, so nice to see one not black.
However I have a question on the drivers seat
It’s Stornaway Grey with charcoal and ivory.
It’s only on 65k but I’m anyone’s opinion what can be done with the drivers seat?
Edited by DSLiverpool on Sunday 29th January 17:53
The L322 swallowed up a 400 mile round trip to see family over the Easter weekend - it's comfort and practicality continue to make it the family roadtrip car of choice.
On the return leg I got the 'Coolant Level Low' red warning message of doom on the dash again. I had this last year and replaced the level sensor which fixed it. Unconvinced a simple hall loop sensor could fail again I checked it's output with a multimeter and sure enough it was fine. The culprit was the float inside the expansion tank so time for a replacement tank:
This was <£30 and took <15 minutes to change, clamping off the hoses and reducing coolant loss meant only a couple of minutes to bleed too.
On the return leg I got the 'Coolant Level Low' red warning message of doom on the dash again. I had this last year and replaced the level sensor which fixed it. Unconvinced a simple hall loop sensor could fail again I checked it's output with a multimeter and sure enough it was fine. The culprit was the float inside the expansion tank so time for a replacement tank:
This was <£30 and took <15 minutes to change, clamping off the hoses and reducing coolant loss meant only a couple of minutes to bleed too.
Year 1 cost of ownership
Earlier in the year the L322 passed the one year mark with us. I keep a tally of costs of maintenance as I'm interested in crunching the numbers and justifying it's existence (a la man maths).
Servicing - stuff you've got to do/shouldn't avoid:
When I got the car I did a oil and all filters service
Total £147
Replacing bits that broke/worn out:
ARB droplinks, lower arm, O/S/F CV boot, coolant expansion tank, etc.
Total £320
Additional servicing - optional bits I wanted to do:
These are things like gearbox powerflush and axles/transfer box, PAS tank and fluid, etc
Total £508
Upgrades/restore/improve:
Optional bits to spruce things up like new remotes, EGR blanking, wheels, wheelnuts, etc etc
Total £503
Earlier in the year the L322 passed the one year mark with us. I keep a tally of costs of maintenance as I'm interested in crunching the numbers and justifying it's existence (a la man maths).
Servicing - stuff you've got to do/shouldn't avoid:
When I got the car I did a oil and all filters service
Total £147
Replacing bits that broke/worn out:
ARB droplinks, lower arm, O/S/F CV boot, coolant expansion tank, etc.
Total £320
Additional servicing - optional bits I wanted to do:
These are things like gearbox powerflush and axles/transfer box, PAS tank and fluid, etc
Total £508
Upgrades/restore/improve:
Optional bits to spruce things up like new remotes, EGR blanking, wheels, wheelnuts, etc etc
Total £503
- Not included is car tax, MOT, insurance etc
TurboRob said:
Depending how you look at things, that's <£40/month in servicing and maintenance, or £120/month total including the optional titivating.
Given the vehicle involved that’s impressively reasonable!Obviously a different engine and apropos of nothing, I’ve been enjoying watching ‘LR Time’ on YT rebuild a Disco 4 with a snapped crank recently -
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhbQfjsQCnPNo60...
Thanks for posting that 1 year cost summary TurboRob. Very interesting and impressive.
The lesson for me as an owner, sorry custodian, of a much earlier L322, is just how much £££ you can save if you can wield the spanners yourself. Your total spend of c.£950 on servicing I think is just on parts. Whereas my annual spend over the last 5 years, albeit with a much older 2004 L322, has been £3k to £5k per year, because I’m using garages to do the work. When I get a minute, I think I’ll go back through my service costs to look at the split between parts and labour each year.
It’s great to see how well your TDV8 is running and working as a family car. Long may the good running and modest costs continue.
The lesson for me as an owner, sorry custodian, of a much earlier L322, is just how much £££ you can save if you can wield the spanners yourself. Your total spend of c.£950 on servicing I think is just on parts. Whereas my annual spend over the last 5 years, albeit with a much older 2004 L322, has been £3k to £5k per year, because I’m using garages to do the work. When I get a minute, I think I’ll go back through my service costs to look at the split between parts and labour each year.
It’s great to see how well your TDV8 is running and working as a family car. Long may the good running and modest costs continue.
Accelebrate said:
Given the vehicle involved that’s impressively reasonable!
Obviously a different engine and apropos of nothing, I’ve been enjoying watching ‘LR Time’ on YT rebuild a Disco 4 with a snapped crank recently -
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhbQfjsQCnPNo60...
Thanks Ian. It doesn't include things like insurance and tax (that alone is £55/month).Obviously a different engine and apropos of nothing, I’ve been enjoying watching ‘LR Time’ on YT rebuild a Disco 4 with a snapped crank recently -
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhbQfjsQCnPNo60...
Tom4398cc said:
Thanks for posting that 1 year cost summary TurboRob. Very interesting and impressive.
The lesson for me as an owner, sorry custodian, of a much earlier L322, is just how much £££ you can save if you can wield the spanners yourself. Your total spend of c.£950 on servicing I think is just on parts. Whereas my annual spend over the last 5 years, albeit with a much older 2004 L322, has been £3k to £5k per year, because I’m using garages to do the work. When I get a minute, I think I’ll go back through my service costs to look at the split between parts and labour each year.
It’s great to see how well your TDV8 is running and working as a family car. Long may the good running and modest costs continue.
Thank you Tom! Yes the £950 is just parts. Easy to see how that number can treble each year if paying for labour. The lesson for me as an owner, sorry custodian, of a much earlier L322, is just how much £££ you can save if you can wield the spanners yourself. Your total spend of c.£950 on servicing I think is just on parts. Whereas my annual spend over the last 5 years, albeit with a much older 2004 L322, has been £3k to £5k per year, because I’m using garages to do the work. When I get a minute, I think I’ll go back through my service costs to look at the split between parts and labour each year.
It’s great to see how well your TDV8 is running and working as a family car. Long may the good running and modest costs continue.
Not a great deal to report since last update other than the first fault appearing in the form of an 'Adaptive Dynamics Fault' message appearing on the dash and the suspension switching to a fairly obviously stiff mode.
A google of this brings up a common fault on later L322s with adaptive dampers - the two wires that connect to the dampers where they poke through the inner wings become brittle and break.
The IID tool told me straight away which one it was.
And <10mins on the drive with the soldering iron, some spare wire and heatshrink had this fixed.
Returning the ride to the plushest of all cars I have/have driven.
In other terrribly exciting news I bought some replacement number plates from a LR dealership in Lincolnshire who support a number of forums and offer p+p on all things. I'm not too fussed about the dealership markings, but did want the correct sized plate as the L322 has an oversized aperture on the boot and looks odd with a standard sized plate in it.
Other than this, it continues to motor-on doing all the tasks expected of a family car.
Onwards!
A google of this brings up a common fault on later L322s with adaptive dampers - the two wires that connect to the dampers where they poke through the inner wings become brittle and break.
The IID tool told me straight away which one it was.
And <10mins on the drive with the soldering iron, some spare wire and heatshrink had this fixed.
Returning the ride to the plushest of all cars I have/have driven.
In other terrribly exciting news I bought some replacement number plates from a LR dealership in Lincolnshire who support a number of forums and offer p+p on all things. I'm not too fussed about the dealership markings, but did want the correct sized plate as the L322 has an oversized aperture on the boot and looks odd with a standard sized plate in it.
Other than this, it continues to motor-on doing all the tasks expected of a family car.
Onwards!
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