Ariel Nomad Turbo Conversion

[Pflanzgarten]

ol said:

scottos said:

This is awesome, i notice one of the pictures is up at Hartside, im up there quite a lot and really hope to see you and the Nomad some time!

Yes! I live pretty close, so will bump into you sometime I'm sure. What are you usually driving up there in?

Nice! Hartside is my evening run out and would love it on the road in the future.

[ol]

Turn7 said:

What sort of craziness are you hoping for HP wise ?

Being conservative as I want to keep it on all terrain tyres (they delaminate over 130mph!), and want to be able to drive at the limit without doing 200 mph everywhere like the Ultima would have been... So originally I wanted switchable maps for 300 and 350bhp. At 720kg that should be a nice amount of power to weight without being ridiculous.

Due to the ECU we can't do the switchable maps in the way I wanted to, so going to have a boost controller. I'm new to aftermarket turbos, so not sure how that will work, but I presume we map for 350 then I'll be able to 'turn it down' if needed.

Not interested in bragging rights for big numbers, the most important thing is how big the smile on my face is


(Would be nice to be able to be able to hassle Atoms on a track day though!)

Edited by ol on Friday 10th June 19:07

[ol]

Pflanzgarten said:

Nice! Hartside is my evening run out and would love it on the road in the future.

Come say hi if you see me up there - great road and right on the doorstep. What do you drive up there?

[ol]

mattdavies said:

Not if you spend some money on wiggins style clamps

We have these little beauties -

Untitled by Olly Olly, on Flickr

[Turn7]

ol said:

Turn7 said:

What sort of craziness are you hoping for HP wise ?

Being conservative as I want to keep it on all terrain tyres (they delaminate over 130mph!), and want to be able to drive at the limit without doing 200 mph everywhere like the Ultima would have been... So originally I wanted switchable maps for 300 and 350bhp. At 720kg that should be a nice amount of power to weight without being ridiculous.

Due to the ECU we can't do the switchable maps in the way I wanted to, so going to have a boost controller. I'm new to aftermarket turbos, so not sure how that will work, but I presume we map for 350 then I'll be able to 'turn it down' if needed.

Not interested in bragging rights for big numbers, the most important thing is how big the smile on my face is


(Would be nice to be able to be able to hassle Atoms on a track day though!)

Edited by ol on Friday 10th June 19:07

I can well imagine.......

[Pflanzgarten]

ol said:

Pflanzgarten said:

Nice! Hartside is my evening run out and would love it on the road in the future.

Come say hi if you see me up there - great road and right on the doorstep. What do you drive up there?

A wee Caterham, will definitely come over and say hi if I ever see you. I'm on the Western side so depending on if I want to turn left or right I either have Northumberland or the Scottish Borders for my playground. We are lucky indeed.

[Caddyshack]

ol said:

Caddyshack said:

I love these cars. One of those in a field sounds epic. Brilliant project.

Ultimately I think a supercharger would suit the car better and wonder why the after market couldn't solve that.


Proper brave pills taking it to Portugal. I would make sure you at least have a tool set to put the boost pipe back on if one decides to keep popping off.


Cant wait for more pics.

Ariel do s supercharged version, but as per the original post, there was a 4+ month wait time, and I like to be a bit different. The turbo will be mapped to be as linear as possible, and will make some awesome noises, so why not! It will also be the only one in the world, which I kind of like.

I've taken far more shabby cars that this on the euro trips before - Ultima GTR / Locost racing car / Hayabusa MK Indy - the Nomad will be comfy and reliable compared to those!

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I had seen the supercharged one and your note about the waiting list. I was just thinking of an aftermarket supercharger. I have had lots of turbo cars and have a 500+hp Cossie but for throttle response I prefer the suoercharger option.

The turbo will make more power and will make much more entertaining noises though, as you say.

[scottos]

Pflanzgarten said:

ol said:

scottos said:

This is awesome, i notice one of the pictures is up at Hartside, im up there quite a lot and really hope to see you and the Nomad some time!

Yes! I live pretty close, so will bump into you sometime I'm sure. What are you usually driving up there in?

Nice! Hartside is my evening run out and would love it on the road in the future.

Progress looks awesome Ol!

Normally in an old 1973 bmw 2002 if the weather's alright or if not currently a red GR Yaris

[jenkosrugby]

What an amazing thread and project.....Absolutely love the Nomad, and as you rightly point out, perfect for our pot holed roads in the uk. That turbo is going to make it into an absolute weapon.


Cant wait to see it full installed and up on the dyno.......

[ol]

scottos said:

Progress looks awesome Ol!

Normally in an old 1973 bmw 2002 if the weather's alright or if not currently a red GR Yaris

Thanks! I love the Yaris GR but never been in one. Had a test drive booked with Toyota Newcastle then they sold out of them so it got cancelled. Is it as good as they say?

[ol]

jenkosrugby said:

What an amazing thread and project.....Absolutely love the Nomad, and as you rightly point out, perfect for our pot holed roads in the uk. That turbo is going to make it into an absolute weapon.


Cant wait to see it full installed and up on the dyno.......

Thank you, very kind of you. Its actually going to be mapped tomorrow! Exhaust is getting fabricated today, then transported to the dyno tonight, mapped tomorrow / Friday then back to Hard Knocks Speed Shop to get all the little bits finished, then I should be able to collect next week, then taking it Portugal at the end of next week! Love a tight deadline haha.

Edited by ol on Wednesday 15th June 10:32

[Caddyshack]

ol said:

jenkosrugby said:

What an amazing thread and project.....Absolutely love the Nomad, and as you rightly point out, perfect for our pot holed roads in the uk. That turbo is going to make it into an absolute weapon.


Cant wait to see it full installed and up on the dyno.......

Thank you, very kind of you. Its actually going to be mapped tomorrow! Exhaust is getting fabricated today, then transported to the dyno tonight, mapped tomorrow / Friday then back to Hard Knocks Speed Shop to get all the little bits finished, then I should be able to collect next week, then taking it Portugal at the end off next week! Love a tight deadline haha.

Hero!

[jenkosrugby]

ol said:

Thank you, very kind of you. Its actually going to be mapped tomorrow! Exhaust is getting fabricated today, then transported to the dyno tonight, mapped tomorrow / Friday then back to Hard Knocks Speed Shop to get all the little bits finished, then I should be able to collect next week, then taking it Portugal at the end of next week! Love a tight deadline haha.

Edited by ol on Wednesday 15th June 10:32

Lots of mapping / power / pics please.....the more detail the better......Also, did you need to drop compression for the turbo, or are the honda engines good to to go?...........

[Caddyshack]

jenkosrugby said:

ol said:

Thank you, very kind of you. Its actually going to be mapped tomorrow! Exhaust is getting fabricated today, then transported to the dyno tonight, mapped tomorrow / Friday then back to Hard Knocks Speed Shop to get all the little bits finished, then I should be able to collect next week, then taking it Portugal at the end of next week! Love a tight deadline haha.

Edited by ol on Wednesday 15th June 10:32

Lots of mapping / power / pics please.....the more detail the better......Also, did you need to drop compression for the turbo, or are the honda engines good to to go?...........

I did wonder about the compression, you would think with 100hp worth of boost it would be needed. I havent seen any pics of the head off.

Will help with off boost performance if it can stay standard and not suffer detonation. I guess the ECU may peg bag timing on knock detection?

[PhillipM]

jenkosrugby said:

Lots of mapping / power / pics please.....the more detail the better......Also, did you need to drop compression for the turbo, or are the honda engines good to to go?...........

They're generally okay with just a timing pull until silly ponies.

[scottos]

ol said:

Thanks! I love the Yaris GR but never been in one. Had a test drive booked with Toyota Newcastle then they sold out of them so it got cancelled. Is it as good as they say?

Yes, genuinely awesome. I had a lend of one for the weekend and spent a lot of it up in the Pennines, didn't want to to give it back and here we are

Looking forwards to these videos/ pictures of the finished article!

[monthefish]

ol said:

NOMAD by Olly Olly, on Flickr

That, right there, is a dream scenario.

(Although I drove an Atom on track once and found it a tricky wee bugger at the limit)

[Caddyshack]

monthefish said:

ol said:

NOMAD by Olly Olly, on Flickr

That, right there, is a dream scenario.

(Although I drove an Atom on track once and found it a tricky wee bugger at the limit)

I would guess the nomad is much more forgiving at the limit with softer suspension and much longer travel. I do remember lots of atoms spinning on track days

[Mezzanine]

Love it.

I was up in Northumberland a few weeks ago and saw your mate with the orange bodywork.

Ideal car for the area.

[ol]

Thanks for the positive replies. Project is moving well.

Cant remember if I already mentioned this, but we decided to go fallen and mount the intercooler up top. This will help cooling and keep rogue stones away, but my OCD was twitching a bit at first. The more I look at it the more I like it. It means the storage box is off centre, but this will be hidden by the spare wheel we are mounting. The mount frame and intercooler will be getting painted black

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The spare wheel will be something like this

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