Aston martin V8 Vantage club sport type thing

[Clubzport]

This is an extremely interesting and enjoyable read, thank you for continuing to update it

[Mark Benson]

Clubzport said:

This is an extremely interesting and enjoyable read, thank you for continuing to update it

Agreed, just the kind of thing I come to PH for.

[olv]

Haha it just gets more and more mad. I love it.

[fred bloggs]

Where in Czech were you visiting? I have In laws there, been many times. They live Up in the north east.
I hired this for one trip

[IainWhy]

Mark Benson said:

Clubzport said:

This is an extremely interesting and enjoyable read, thank you for continuing to update it

Agreed, just the kind of thing I come to PH for.

Thank guys glad you are enjoying the journey, hard to know how well this sort of thing resonates given its fairly niche

fred bloggs said:

Where in Czech were you visiting? I have In laws there, been many times. They live Up in the north east.
I hired this for one trip

Příchovice at the moment, my Mrs is Czech so it makes for a simple holiday, though she is from Chomutov on the German boarder. I will sadly be winding up in a few days and she and the kids will stay on for a bit to see family elsewhere.

its a nice place! I have hire car envy though as i currently have the 8 or 9 furious horsepower that cam with my Polish rental i20, which is a hateful piece of st with no redeeming features other than the distance it will travel on the sniff of an oily rag

[fred bloggs]

IainWhy said:

its a nice place! I have hire car envy though as i currently have the 8 or 9 furious horsepower that cam with my Polish rental i20, which is a hateful piece of st with no redeeming features other than the distance it will travel on the sniff of an oily rag

My good lady is czech too.
We decided to take my transit custom van this year, it has rear seats and makes a great family/dog wagon.
It blew its turbo halfway through germany. Carried on in a hired pug 5008. Not so exiting travel there this year, but stayed an extra week while the van got repaired at a german garage.

[Court_S]

Some really good and interesting updates.

It’s cool to see a different project and one that is so hands on.

[IainWhy]

Well what can i say, tomorrow never came! Or rather with more honesty i became busy again and priorities slipped?

The slippage of things will be an ongoing theme here as i failed to document much of what has been done properly becuase i was tired/lazy/rushing/poorly organised, so please accept my appologies in advance.

picking up where i left off (though that seems long ago)

I had printed up some ducts, and got a friend of mine to chop some holes in a spare bumper and paint it. so the call came in that it was all done, as such i zipped down to Daves unit at about 9pm to get cracking and get it fitted, i thought that would be done by about midnight. when i finally left at 3am i realised i had infact miscalculated, however the job was done.

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If i am honest fitting this was a complete bd. As the sneering bald man from bamforsd will tell you (sneery voice) "only morons fit gt4 filters as they dont make any power" well there is another reason, and that reason is cooling, the airboxes are in the way of meaningful ducting so they have to go, as such they did and my car now just has a few simple ram air cones on the ends of the MAF's. this allows (once you have cut away the front airbox mount. and a bit of the arch liner and fought with the undertray for an hour) to run 75mm ducting from the front air dam to the wheel arch. It would be more effective again to run this directly to the backing plate of the disk, but in all honesty this them creates another issue where the wheel lock then needs to be restricted, or you will rip the hose off, so in my case they just point at the disk from the inside edge of the wheel liner.

I also fitted porsch air guides to the arb, these were initialy just too big in that location and were constantly hitting the ground, origially i was just going to let them self fit but being as i was there i thought i should trim them down a bit which resulted in this.

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As this was all prep for Spa and Zolder i also slapped a load of temperature trackers all over the brakes and some other bits of the car so i could see if my genius (fkn lol) was actually working.

Next up, as i was making a trip to the uk, i had arranged to see HWM to get a map put on the car. Big reasons for me here were to get the EGR coded out which tends to cause surging, trim the cars appetite for fuel (these run horribly rich to cool the cats, mad eh?) and sort out the throttle response. In preparation for this i needed to put some of the cats up for re-homing.

Normal way to do this is to remove the secondary cats, but this has some downsides on the 4.3 and either your paying out the wazoo for some fairly basic race cats or your gutting the secondaries from the oem can which will create a big drop in gas speed.

As such i did something different.

Shopping at my favourite race part shop (ebay) i bought a pair of 4.7 cats for a couple of hundred pounds (i should be able to scrap them for more if i ever remember to actually do it) on the basis that i could use the flanges and ball socket on the theends or possibly even the secondary as a primary low cell count.

Its not possible to simply fit the 4.7 secondaries onto the 4.3 as they are both longer and a different shape as you can see below.




Given that these needed some significant adjustment, i decided to go all the way so procured some, lets call them "ultra low" cell count cats and the angle grinder and welder put in the hours.













This naturally illuminated even more warning lights on the dash and turned loud mode into unbearable mode, which was ace. Fortuantately with the flaps shut, it was still as quiet as a gently driven honda jizz

Given that the car is a morass of road coloured grey, I was rather concerned that i was going to get collected on track, as such i figured i should pay a man to chintz it up a bit and employed the excellent services of Szilveszter at isle of wraps to do a thing.

this being the end result (the slightly instagrammy picture at the end was taken by a mate of mine who kindly dropped me off to collect the car, it wasnt me being a massive tart, but i will use it anyway)







This is very simply a copy of the early N24 car livery

Much more to go, so i will aim to write it up this week beore it all becomes an even more distant memory.

[SturdyHSV]

Splash of lipstick in hooker red, I didn't imagine you as the type

So is that just a 'wrap' in terms of a couple of red strips etc.? Just curious really as I'd really like the Monaro orange, but keep the A pillars / roof etc. black, but that would require the orange wrap to end flat on a bit of bodywork, rather like your red stripes do at the bottom of the A pillar and I wasn't sure if this was doable...

Look forward to seeing what else you do and how the car gets on at Spa etc.

[IainWhy]

SturdyHSV said:

Splash of lipstick in hooker red, I didn't imagine you as the type

So is that just a 'wrap' in terms of a couple of red strips etc.? Just curious really as I'd really like the Monaro orange, but keep the A pillars / roof etc. black, but that would require the orange wrap to end flat on a bit of bodywork, rather like your red stripes do at the bottom of the A pillar and I wasn't sure if this was doable...

Look forward to seeing what else you do and how the car gets on at Spa etc.

Yea its a bit of an embarrassment really

It is indeed a wrap, and its only on as i have agreed to take it back next month to be redone as he was not happy with it, too much stretch required to make the material work apparently. either way when it goes back it will lose the bonnet stripes and the a pillar profile will change to match an alternate version of the n24 livery.

At some point i may consider a full colour change, but many things more pressing in the immediate future.

[Jhonno]

Brilliant thread and read.. Love what you are doing with it!

Be prepared to do the ducting again though, if they are still PLA.. It doesn't like being outside UV/heat etc..

Edited by Jhonno on Thursday 22 September 14:58

[d_a_n1979]

What a superb project

Love the colour on it now; makes it very unique

[Terra1]

Another great project thread, thanks for sharing and keep up the good work and updates! I love this being a leftfield choice for a homebrew track car. Can't imagine there are many more that have been transformed by their owners?!

[Pflanzgarten]

Pap'd

https://twitter.com/Kowalski_24_/status/1573016028...

[Demelitia]

IainWhy said:

It would be more effective again to run this directly to the backing plate of the disk, but in all honesty this them creates another issue where the wheel lock then needs to be restricted, or you will rip the hose off, so in my case they just point at the disk from the inside edge of the wheel liner.

I don’t know why but I do love threads that involve a brake cooling mods section.

I’m not sure what the standard backing plates on the car are like, but wondered if it would be worthwhile modifying them to include an air scoop similar to this BMW part off an F30.
With the scoop in the right place and the duct pointed at it, it might be a nice halfway house between what you have now and a duct fastened straight to the backing plate. Hopefully it would get some more air to the centre portion of the disc and out through the vanes in it.

Part number: 34116792238

[IainWhy]

Firstly, thank you all for your comments, its always nice to know that people are getting something out of it rather than just feeling your posting random st on the internet.

Jhonno said:

Brilliant thread and read.. Love what you are doing with it!

Be prepared to do the ducting again though, if they are still PLA.. It doesn't like being outside UV/heat etc..

These need re making, I originally sized them from the cutout, and as such the dimensions are a little off, they would also look better if i remade them in a slightly different shape. The next lot, provided they are better will be produced in black nylon.

d_a_n1979 said:

What a superb project

Love the colour on it now; makes it very unique

I am sure its a bit marmite, there are those that will hate it, primarily the objective was to ensure that it was a bit more visible on track where failing top be seen can make things a bit exciting.

Terra1 said:

Another great project thread, thanks for sharing and keep up the good work and updates! I love this being a leftfield choice for a homebrew track car. Can't imagine there are many more that have been transformed by their owners?!

Yea, i am sure there are a few, but I can only think of one or two others, more commonly there were some N24 cars that were road registered, but in both cases, i have never seen them actually doing anything

Pflanzgarten said:

Pap'd

https://twitter.com/Kowalski_24_/status/1573016028...

Hmm, strange chap, still if he's happy i'm happy

Demelitia said:

IainWhy said:

It would be more effective again to run this directly to the backing plate of the disk, but in all honesty this them creates another issue where the wheel lock then needs to be restricted, or you will rip the hose off, so in my case they just point at the disk from the inside edge of the wheel liner.

I don’t know why but I do love threads that involve a brake cooling mods section.

I’m not sure what the standard backing plates on the car are like, but wondered if it would be worthwhile modifying them to include an air scoop similar to this BMW part off an F30.
With the scoop in the right place and the duct pointed at it, it might be a nice halfway house between what you have now and a duct fastened straight to the backing plate. Hopefully it would get some more air to the centre portion of the disc and out through the vanes in it.

Part number: 34116792238

Its an interesting idea and one i will definitely consider, there is no chance that the part will fit as the Aston knuckles are completely different to anything bmw have come up with (sadly or i would have parts for dayz) but the idea should work, my reservation would be if it was possible to angle it enough to actually get it into the airflow given the offset and width of the wheel (10j 275).

I am tracking the temps and currently they look to be stable and good, however on a shorter circuit it may well still be inadequate

[Demelitia]

IainWhy said:

Its an interesting idea and one i will definitely consider, there is no chance that the part will fit as the Aston knuckles are completely different to anything bmw have come up with (sadly or i would have parts for dayz) but the idea should work, my reservation would be if it was possible to angle it enough to actually get it into the airflow given the offset and width of the wheel (10j 275).

I am tracking the temps and currently they look to be stable and good, however on a shorter circuit it may well still be inadequate

It was more just an easy way to illustrate the idea rather than suggest using those exact parts.
I wonder if you could at least include a scoop/elongated hole in the plates that your brake ducts would be pointing at at least some of the time when the wheels are more or less straight.

Whatever you do, I’m looking forward to seeing how things progress.

[braddo]

What a fantastic thread, really enjoyed reading it all last night. The humour and all the improvised solutions make for an entertaining read.

Looking forward to seeing how the weight reduction goes. And whether that throws up more issues for suspension and ride heights

[IainWhy]

Demelitia said:

IainWhy said:

Its an interesting idea and one i will definitely consider, there is no chance that the part will fit as the Aston knuckles are completely different to anything bmw have come up with (sadly or i would have parts for dayz) but the idea should work, my reservation would be if it was possible to angle it enough to actually get it into the airflow given the offset and width of the wheel (10j 275).

I am tracking the temps and currently they look to be stable and good, however on a shorter circuit it may well still be inadequate

It was more just an easy way to illustrate the idea rather than suggest using those exact parts.
I wonder if you could at least include a scoop/elongated hole in the plates that your brake ducts would be pointing at at least some of the time when the wheels are more or less straight.

Whatever you do, I’m looking forward to seeing how things progress.

Yea its definately a consideration, ultimately thats pretty much what the front deflectors on the ARB are doing currently. The teltales post the ducting and deflectors are showing 120/130degree surface temperature on the caliper after a 40 minute stint at Spa on a warm day, no smoking pads or anything else untoward was obseved. But on a smaller less sweeping track it may be a diffferent story. I think for now i will keep a track of it and see how it goes, but absolutely prepared for some level of fail

braddo said:

What a fantastic thread, really enjoyed reading it all last night. The humour and all the improvised solutions make for an entertaining read.

Looking forward to seeing how the weight reduction goes. And whether that throws up more issues for suspension and ride heights

Glad your enjoying it!

Hopefully the ride height should be fine, i could run the car far lower than currently so if i do get lift and topping out i can easily drop it down. It doesnt look all that low in the pictures, but in reality any lower and i am going to take the underside off it, the 18 inch wheels also optically raise it up a bit. By eye i would say that the arms are close to parralel as it currently stands, so dropping it down much would also likely put the roll centre underground, or at least outside the mass of the car.

I definately need to look at the rake of the car though, at present its about level, but I would prefer a bit of positive rake fromt the rear...the messing never ends

[Carlos24]

What a fantastic thread, it’s really good to see someone engineering out all of the problems that come up with hard use. It’s also a bit of an eye opener as to what a company like Aston can get away with in the shoddy fittings and build quality issues that you have put right.

I look forward to more updates and keep up the good work