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RS Grant said:
Yep, similar averages here... from memory my old E92 manual was ~16mpg average and my current F80 manual is sitting around ~26mpg.
The newer car is better in every measurable way. However it doesn't sound even 50% as good as the older V8 car, which I really miss and have weighed up a step back a few times to be honest.
Not really. The E9x has proper Steering feel (hydraulic steering), more driving feedback, higher quality interior materials, more comfortable and softer seats, is smaller (5cm narrower), has no turbo lag, less road noise, better ride quality. The F8x is a better daily and excels in other areas but not all IMO. The newer car is better in every measurable way. However it doesn't sound even 50% as good as the older V8 car, which I really miss and have weighed up a step back a few times to be honest.
One thing I am impressed by is how comfortable the seats are, they really are lovely. The interior quality doesn't feel as good as the Lexus, but I wouldn't expect it to. The sun visor leather (if that's what it is) feels very rough compared to that of the Lexus.
However, it does have a stonking V8 with loads of charm
I'm looking forward to getting the minor bits done next week, and then the big bits next month!
However, it does have a stonking V8 with loads of charm
I'm looking forward to getting the minor bits done next week, and then the big bits next month!
zek said:
RS Grant said:
Yep, similar averages here... from memory my old E92 manual was ~16mpg average and my current F80 manual is sitting around ~26mpg.
The newer car is better in every measurable way. However it doesn't sound even 50% as good as the older V8 car, which I really miss and have weighed up a step back a few times to be honest.
Not really. The E9x has proper Steering feel (hydraulic steering), more driving feedback, higher quality interior materials, more comfortable and softer seats, is smaller (5cm narrower), has no turbo lag, less road noise, better ride quality. The F8x is a better daily and excels in other areas but not all IMO. The newer car is better in every measurable way. However it doesn't sound even 50% as good as the older V8 car, which I really miss and have weighed up a step back a few times to be honest.
Jhonno said:
zek said:
RS Grant said:
Yep, similar averages here... from memory my old E92 manual was ~16mpg average and my current F80 manual is sitting around ~26mpg.
The newer car is better in every measurable way. However it doesn't sound even 50% as good as the older V8 car, which I really miss and have weighed up a step back a few times to be honest.
Not really. The E9x has proper Steering feel (hydraulic steering), more driving feedback, higher quality interior materials, more comfortable and softer seats, is smaller (5cm narrower), has no turbo lag, less road noise, better ride quality. The F8x is a better daily and excels in other areas but not all IMO. The newer car is better in every measurable way. However it doesn't sound even 50% as good as the older V8 car, which I really miss and have weighed up a step back a few times to be honest.
OP - congrats on the E90, superb bits of kit
zek said:
RS Grant said:
Yep, similar averages here... from memory my old E92 manual was ~16mpg average and my current F80 manual is sitting around ~26mpg.
The newer car is better in every measurable way. However it doesn't sound even 50% as good as the older V8 car, which I really miss and have weighed up a step back a few times to be honest.
Not really. The E9x has proper Steering feel (hydraulic steering), more driving feedback, higher quality interior materials, more comfortable and softer seats, is smaller (5cm narrower), has no turbo lag, less road noise, better ride quality. The F8x is a better daily and excels in other areas but not all IMO. The newer car is better in every measurable way. However it doesn't sound even 50% as good as the older V8 car, which I really miss and have weighed up a step back a few times to be honest.
As a weekend car I think I would go for the M3 over the M4. Regarding the steering the M4 does have a great turn in, but I also liked the steering in the M3 though. However I remember quite a few reviews slating the steering a bit in the M3 for some reason.
cerb4.5lee said:
zek said:
RS Grant said:
Yep, similar averages here... from memory my old E92 manual was ~16mpg average and my current F80 manual is sitting around ~26mpg.
The newer car is better in every measurable way. However it doesn't sound even 50% as good as the older V8 car, which I really miss and have weighed up a step back a few times to be honest.
Not really. The E9x has proper Steering feel (hydraulic steering), more driving feedback, higher quality interior materials, more comfortable and softer seats, is smaller (5cm narrower), has no turbo lag, less road noise, better ride quality. The F8x is a better daily and excels in other areas but not all IMO. The newer car is better in every measurable way. However it doesn't sound even 50% as good as the older V8 car, which I really miss and have weighed up a step back a few times to be honest.
As a weekend car I think I would go for the M3 over the M4. Regarding the steering the M4 does have a great turn in, but I also liked the steering in the M3 though. However I remember quite a few reviews slating the steering a bit in the M3 for some reason.
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I haven't been in an M4 so cannot say. I do, however, think the M3 is perfectly adequate for daily driver performance. If the M4 has a more harsh ride I wouldn't like that.
Yes Ross and I didn't get the chance to test drive the M4 because of the lockdown restrictions when I purchased it. However if I had test drove it I genuinely don't think that I would have gone for it because of how poor the ride is. The best way I can describe the ride is that the tyres feel like runflats, but obviously they are normal tyres though. Plus you could tell a difference between the EDC settings in the M3, whereas all 3 settings in the M4 with the adaptive dampers are all harsh in comparison.
It is frustrating because the M3 was one of the best riding cars I've had, but BMW lost the plot with the M4 in that regard though I reckon.
Another vote for servicing the gearbox. The sealed for life thing is a load of rubbish. For the sake of a few hundred quid it’s not worth ignoring.
The diffs oil is dead easy to change, again so I’d just do it.
Car looks grand after a clean; it’s a great colour that really suits the E9x cars. I prefer it to the darker colours because it shows off more of the design details.
The diffs oil is dead easy to change, again so I’d just do it.
Car looks grand after a clean; it’s a great colour that really suits the E9x cars. I prefer it to the darker colours because it shows off more of the design details.
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
One of my colleagues at work, who drives a Toyota Auris said "what's the point in getting something so fast if you can't go over 70?"
"Well you can't go over 70 because you have a Toyota Auris"
"All the better for not being stuck behind people who drive an Auris" "Well you can't go over 70 because you have a Toyota Auris"
donkmeister said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
One of my colleagues at work, who drives a Toyota Auris said "what's the point in getting something so fast if you can't go over 70?"
"Well you can't go over 70 because you have a Toyota Auris"
"All the better for not being stuck behind people who drive an Auris" "Well you can't go over 70 because you have a Toyota Auris"
Induction noise under full throttle is rather special, too.
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
roadie said:
What tyres are you thinking of replacing the Cups with?
Pilot Sport 4, or if they aren't available then 4S.cerb4.5lee said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Induction noise under full throttle is rather special, too.
The E9x M3 is easily the best car I've had for induction noise Ross. It always puts you on cloud 9 I reckon! 
I once saw 165 on the digital speedo readout in mine...in Mexico of course!!
MrCD said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
roadie said:
What tyres are you thinking of replacing the Cups with?
Pilot Sport 4, or if they aren't available then 4S.As an aside the Cup 2 tyres - it's 4 degrees here today, and it's been drizzling most of the day. I'm still alive
they really aren't bad and seem to be fine, I didn't push hard but for daily use they're not a concern. The fronts have loads of tread left but the rears are on 3mm or so, so they're being done this coming Monday. Edited by TyrannosauRoss Lex on Tuesday 7th March 17:09
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