My sort of broken W221 S600

My sort of broken W221 S600

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Mikedknight

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704 posts

94 months

Monday 22nd April
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bolidemichael said:
What do you love about it?
How it makes me feel inside.

bolidemichael

13,898 posts

202 months

Monday 22nd April
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Mikedknight said:
bolidemichael said:
What do you love about it?
How it makes me feel inside.
Inside what?

Alex_225

6,264 posts

202 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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It's a big car but I'm surprised you can fit your gonads in there because they must be significant buying an S600 for this price!! haha

Fair play though, I had an S320cdi as a daily car for a couple of years and it was an absolutely lovely car. That said, I paid about £7k for it and claimed probably £3,500-4k within the first 6 months on the warranty with the garage.

As for your ABS warnings, it'll be the wheel speed sensors. I had all four replaced on my S Class, all four were done before my ownership on my CL and we've done two of the four on my other half's ML. Seems that era of Merc, the sensors are just utter crap.

If you can get things behaving on yours though that'll be a hell of a car. I've always fancied the 600 models and had pondered whether I'd eventually sell my CL500 for a CL600. Also if you're interested, I run a FB group 'Mercedes S-Class and CL-Class Owners UK' which has some knowledgeable types on there and they'd love to see progress on this.

I'll keep an eye on this thread. smile

Mikedknight

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704 posts

94 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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bolidemichael said:
Inside what?
It’s difficult to describe maybe I’ll write a song about it or something.

Mikedknight

Original Poster:

704 posts

94 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Alex_225 said:
It's a big car but I'm surprised you can fit your gonads in there because they must be significant buying an S600 for this price!! haha

Fair play though, I had an S320cdi as a daily car for a couple of years and it was an absolutely lovely car. That said, I paid about £7k for it and claimed probably £3,500-4k within the first 6 months on the warranty with the garage.

As for your ABS warnings, it'll be the wheel speed sensors. I had all four replaced on my S Class, all four were done before my ownership on my CL and we've done two of the four on my other half's ML. Seems that era of Merc, the sensors are just utter crap.

If you can get things behaving on yours though that'll be a hell of a car. I've always fancied the 600 models and had pondered whether I'd eventually sell my CL500 for a CL600. Also if you're interested, I run a FB group 'Mercedes S-Class and CL-Class Owners UK' which has some knowledgeable types on there and they'd love to see progress on this.

I'll keep an eye on this thread. smile
Interesting point on the speed sensors, I thought they were ok as when I look at live data on the diagnostics they are all displaying speeds in line with what you would expect.

As far as bravery/gonads etc I’m probably not as brave as you think. I run a Mercedes breakers so this car is a sort of no lose bet. I’d much rather keep it but if all else fails it’ll end up stripped.

ChocolateFrog

25,464 posts

174 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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That is most definitely cheating biglaugh

bolidemichael

13,898 posts

202 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Mikedknight said:
bolidemichael said:
Inside what?
It’s difficult to describe maybe I’ll write a song about it or something.
I suspect Paul was singing about his 600 Grosser...


Mikedknight

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704 posts

94 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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bolidemichael said:
Mikedknight said:
bolidemichael said:
Inside what?
It’s difficult to describe maybe I’ll write a song about it or something.
I suspect Paul was singing about his 600 Grosser...

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Den Den

205 posts

20 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Mikedknight said:
I run a Mercedes breakers
ears Can you help with my shopping list?



Jhonno

5,779 posts

142 months

Wednesday 24th April
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This is a brave purchase! Makes buying one of those cheap Porsche Cayennes look like a sensible decision. Love it! Following..

Mikedknight

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704 posts

94 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Den Den said:
ears Can you help with my shopping list?
Send me a message by all means.

Mikedknight

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704 posts

94 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Jhonno said:
This is a brave purchase! Makes buying one of those cheap Porsche Cayennes look like a sensible decision. Love it! Following..
Had one of those maybe 12 years ago, the only issue we had with it was the coolant pipe in the V going, apart from that it was spot on.

bolidemichael

13,898 posts

202 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Mike, I’m looking for the power boot gubbins for my 03/04 S211. Now NLA from MB.

Alex_225

6,264 posts

202 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Mikedknight said:
Interesting point on the speed sensors, I thought they were ok as when I look at live data on the diagnostics they are all displaying speeds in line with what you would expect.

As far as bravery/gonads etc I’m probably not as brave as you think. I run a Mercedes breakers so this car is a sort of no lose bet. I’d much rather keep it but if all else fails it’ll end up stripped.
In that case I retract the reference to your plums haha Fair play though, if you can get parts easy enough and clearly you know your way round mechanically then fair play. A friend of mine also breaks cars for a living and will have a go at fixing most things before breaking if it's a nice car.

As for the speed sensors, obviously I can't say for certain but I just know from my experience it threw that kind of error but no physical symptoms where as my other half's ML the brake would grab at low speeds due to one of the sensors being iffy.

Mikedknight

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704 posts

94 months

Wednesday 24th April
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bolidemichael said:
Mike, I’m looking for the power boot gubbins for my 03/04 S211. Now NLA from MB.
If you have a part number you can send me via pm that would be great.

Mikedknight

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704 posts

94 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Alex_225 said:
Mikedknight said:
Interesting point on the speed sensors, I thought they were ok as when I look at live data on the diagnostics they are all displaying speeds in line with what you would expect.

As far as bravery/gonads etc I’m probably not as brave as you think. I run a Mercedes breakers so this car is a sort of no lose bet. I’d much rather keep it but if all else fails it’ll end up stripped.
In that case I retract the reference to your plums haha Fair play though, if you can get parts easy enough and clearly you know your way round mechanically then fair play. A friend of mine also breaks cars for a living and will have a go at fixing most things before breaking if it's a nice car.

As for the speed sensors, obviously I can't say for certain but I just know from my experience it threw that kind of error but no physical symptoms where as my other half's ML the brake would grab at low speeds due to one of the sensors being iffy.
Trying to sort the misfire first, then tackle the other weirdness. Thanks for your help.

TopTrump

3,228 posts

175 months

Thursday 25th April
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Mikedknight said:
Trying to sort the misfire first, then tackle the other weirdness. Thanks for your help.
This will be a recurring message- perhaps minus the misfire

Decky_Q

1,514 posts

178 months

Thursday 25th April
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I had an s500 and it was great, genuine parts are expectedly expensive, but a mercedes breaker not far away and some online research for new parts kept the cost very low for the few years I had it. Engine was very reliable, tech was a bit outdated but still worked.

Mikedknight

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704 posts

94 months

Saturday 27th April
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Misfire update. It still has one. It was only misfiring on one cylinder (cyl 7) so thought I’d do the spark plugs. The last time they’d been done was in 2012 30k ago.

Replaced them all with 24 NGK iridium’s which didn’t fix the issue so I’ve ordered the left coil pack. On further reading of the service history it turned out the spark plugs had been changed last year less than 1000 miles ago! Doh



A picture of my workbench and some spark plugs.

bolidemichael

13,898 posts

202 months

Sunday 28th April
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On the upside you’ve eliminated one source of uncertainty and you can also repurpose the sparks for another vehicle.

I seem to recall that there was a US company that specialised either in providing refurbished coil packs or more cost effective single units per bank of cylinders.