My '72 911T

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acme

2,972 posts

199 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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I'll simply echo all that's been said; awesome car, awesome thread and superb that you're doing (have done) all this work yourself.

I shall continue to follow with much interest.

This is why we read PH! smile

gary71

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1,967 posts

180 months

Monday 20th August 2018
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Cheers for the positive comments smile

Still doing wiring...
Glad this car is so simple electrically...


Mannginger

9,069 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Wow, I've just spent a good hour reading through this thread. What amazing dedication and skill. All the best for the coming months of work, it's a wonderful car and an incredible journey you've been on together!

gary71

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1,967 posts

180 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Grabbed an hour today to pull a few more bits off the dash. It takes forever working out how it all comes off without damaging it. Much of it hasn’t moved since Klaus assembled it back in the day which is pretty much 47 years to the day.

The deeper I go the greener it gets. You can see that everything starts off green then the visible edges are blown over with satin black. I’ll be replicating this even though it looks a mess!







The wiring has suffered (mainly at my hand!) for heated screens, phone chargers, amps etc so I’m going to remove all of that and make an overlay harness just for the new stuff keeping the original neat and tidy.

I’m going to fit a more modern style blade fuse box though as the masochist use of corroding loose bullet fuses isn’t something that needs to continue!

gary71

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1,967 posts

180 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Wiring. Love it...

I can see why many people leave the harness in place!

Ready for extraction down the tunnel now the fuse box is all labelled up.


However my attempts a loom removal ended up with blood all over my face and three stitches.

It was a bit tight in the tunnel, then suddenly it wasn’t! Top of head straight into the underside of the rear quarter, both sharp and rusty.

Anyway I’ll put a hat on tomorrow and carry on smile

I’m just annoyed I had to stop but the blood was getting in my eyes smile

gary71

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1,967 posts

180 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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Well three stitches and multiple bruises later it’s out. I’ll be making some subtle mods to the rear seat pan before it goes back in as that up and over the torsion bar routing is a fight I don’t want to have again!

I’ve left a rope down the tunnel that will remain to pull it back.

Doesn’t look much but that’s one of the most stubborn b’stard parts of a car I’ve ever had the displeasure to work on.


Mannginger

9,069 posts

258 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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Ouch, presume you're up to date on your tetanus jabs?!

Slippydiff

14,851 posts

224 months

Saturday 25th August 2018
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Mannginger said:
Ouch, presume you're up to date on your tetanus jabs?!
Once over a certain age, you no longer need “boosters”, hence they don’t give them.

Sorry to hear the car’s fighting back Gary. When I stripped a ‘73 T back to a bare shell, I don’t recall the loom being particularly difficult to extract ?

B'stard Child

28,447 posts

247 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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gary71 said:
Well three stitches and multiple bruises later it’s out. I’ll be making some subtle mods to the rear seat pan before it goes back in as that up and over the torsion bar routing is a fight I don’t want to have again!

I’ve left a rope down the tunnel that will remain to pull it back.
Reminds me of one of my “I can laugh about it now” moments

Many years ago I had a Carlton Estate with transmission vibration - I knew what it was, the centre prop bearing was "knackered" but to replace you need to first get the prop off and second split it.

Front of car was on wheel ramps

I was under with a breaker bar with a cheap 19mm socket and a spanner on the other end jammed against the transmission tunnel

Try as I might the bolts would not come undone with a push process applied to the breaker

So I tried a pull process wedging my feet against the car for extra leverage

Crack - great the bolt had come undone - actually the socket had let go..... Split in two.

Actions have consequences

My head was in the path of the fast moving breaker bar

Ouch that hurt, not really hurt like a limb removal but sting like hurt.

Skin above eye is quite thin

I very rapidly found I had a vision issue and the car was leaking a strange read fluid near my eyes - it appeared from a brief taste test that it was a warm fluid and a taste I recognise.

I rolled out from under the car and headed to the garage for blue roll, like loo roll but wider

Trouble was I couldn't see a curse word thing several things got kicked over or knocked out of the way now I was in trouble.

Now I knew where the first aid kit was in the house - it was in the bathroom upstairs

Can't untie my laces so entered the kitchen to ask Mrs BC to fetch first aid kit, in a soft voice (nothing to worry about love just a minor flesh wound)

No response - bugger - still can't see a bloody thing but I can navigate my house pissed with the lights off and find the toilet with a full bladder so this should be easy.

That bit worked just fine meeting Mrs BC just outside the bathroom looking like an extra from a zombie movie wasn't ideal

Anyway I stopped the blood flow and by a miracle of a wet flannel I could see again - this proved to be a bit of a downside

It appeared I kicked over a can of used engine oil and unaware of this I had not removed the garage foot ware

It appeared that what I thought was just a small cut had the same coverage effect as arterial spray

It appeared that the month before her choice of cream carpet for the hall and landing might have been unwise.......

Now it was clear that I wasn't going to die we had a drill down into the root cause.

I very shortly after got some much better quality sockets

Those rug doctor cleaners are brilliant

A first aid kit is now in the garage as well as the kitchen and bathroom

All my garage shoes are slip on - they are also all steel toe caped but that's another story

iSore

4,011 posts

145 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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It makes you wonder how many £100+ grand classic 911's that look nice are really just like this one!

Tommie38

758 posts

195 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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iSore said:
It makes you wonder how many £100+ grand classic 911's that look nice are really just like this one!
I’d assume every one unless you can see photographs of a restoration.

gary71

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1,967 posts

180 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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B'stard Child said:
Blood related tale...
Classic. I’m lucky to still be roughly in one piece the amount of time I damage myself!

Edited by gary71 on Sunday 26th August 11:29

gary71

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1,967 posts

180 months

Sunday 26th August 2018
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Tommie38 said:
iSore said:
It makes you wonder how many £100+ grand classic 911's that look nice are really just like this one!
I’d assume every one unless you can see photographs of a restoration.
It’s not too hard to find if you know where to look but I’m sure many have been sold to unsuspecting ‘investors’ that didn’t do due diligence.

Mannginger

9,069 posts

258 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Slippydiff said:
Once over a certain age, you no longer need “boosters”, hence they don’t give them.
Every day's a school day! Cheers thumbup

Gallons Per Mile

1,887 posts

108 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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I'm not 'a certain age' yet and keep impaling myself on bits of car... Do I need a booster? I don't think I've ever had one eek

BTW, I absolutely love your no-nonsense approach to sorting all the problem areas out. Get stuck in, I can't wait for more updates biggrin

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Bloody good work thus far. Interesting to see how these come apart.

scottos

1,146 posts

125 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Love this thread and good job on the tear down so far, that is certainly some strong commitment to the car! I've a 1973 2002 but made sure i got one with the body restored, some day i will have to learn how to cut/ weld i suppose, cant avoid it forever! I'll come back to this thread for inspiration.

I've also got your picture location saved and once my car works ill be off down to Wales for the weekend and will replicate the same picture hopefully!

Scott

gary71

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1,967 posts

180 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Be good to see that 2002 out in Wales, the build looks good. Maybe you can take Mark and the M3 along, that would be a cool pairing.

I’ve finally started cutting tonight!





And found exactly what I expected. After some thinking about just trying to replace the rear panel I decided this would be more work and a poor job so I’ve started on making a robust jig to tie the back end together and hold the complete (backdated) new xmbr in the right place.

It bolts up under the bumper mounts, picks up on the engine mounts and will also pick up on the latch mounting surface, although I’ve timed out on sociable grinding hours for today.




MJK 24

5,648 posts

237 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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When it’s stripped, are you going to dunk the shell in acid to take it back to bare steel and see what the lie of the land is?

B'stard Child

28,447 posts

247 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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MJK 24 said:
When it’s stripped, are you going to dunk the shell in acid to take it back to bare steel and see what the lie of the land is?
From what I've seen of acid dipped shells that might not be a good idea...........