My Honda Accord Type R Big Turbo

My Honda Accord Type R Big Turbo

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Conian

8,030 posts

201 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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superb! ok so maybe some better planning could have made some aspects better (or maybe not I'm no expert) but the fact that you're doing so much work on this is awesome, respect!

JayK12

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2,324 posts

202 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Forgot to put these pics in of the end result of the weekends work. Ooops.




Edited by JayK12 on Monday 28th June 11:32

JayK12

Original Poster:

2,324 posts

202 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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Conian said:
superb! ok so maybe some better planning could have made some aspects better (or maybe not I'm no expert) but the fact that you're doing so much work on this is awesome, respect!
Your right, i do think more planning would have made my life alot easier, but its quite difficult to plan so much around a one off. Ive managed to over come the hurdles faced, only to more i think, getting the bonnet to close and the bumper to fit, nothing a angle grinder cant fix biggrin lol.

bales

1,905 posts

218 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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I know it probably doesn't matter due to the amount of boost your putting through it but I cringe at the pressure drop you'll be getting through that intercooler and piping with all those tight radiuses...

JayK12

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2,324 posts

202 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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bales said:
I know it probably doesn't matter due to the amount of boost your putting through it but I cringe at the pressure drop you'll be getting through that intercooler and piping with all those tight radiuses...
The radius of the pipe work is constant, at 2.5" throughout.

bales

1,905 posts

218 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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JayK12 said:
bales said:
I know it probably doesn't matter due to the amount of boost your putting through it but I cringe at the pressure drop you'll be getting through that intercooler and piping with all those tight radiuses...
The radius of the pipe work is constant, at 2.5" throughout.
No I mean the actual bends themselves, everytime you go round a bend you get resistance to the flow and a pressure drop, as I said it probably won't make too much of a difference to you but I work in the chemical industry so I'm a bit of a geek about pipework and effciency of design!! It means you can use smaller pumps and therefore less money!

JayK12

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2,324 posts

202 months

Monday 28th June 2010
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bales said:
JayK12 said:
bales said:
I know it probably doesn't matter due to the amount of boost your putting through it but I cringe at the pressure drop you'll be getting through that intercooler and piping with all those tight radiuses...
The radius of the pipe work is constant, at 2.5" throughout.
No I mean the actual bends themselves, everytime you go round a bend you get resistance to the flow and a pressure drop, as I said it probably won't make too much of a difference to you but I work in the chemical industry so I'm a bit of a geek about pipework and effciency of design!! It means you can use smaller pumps and therefore less money!
I get what your saying, but i think i should be ok.

To get say 500whp which is what i will probably leave it at, i'll need to run about 1.5bar / 21psi. Engine is built for 800hp / 10,000rpm, but i want to ensure im well within tolerances. Might see what we can get for fun on the mapping session for a drag map, but then just turn it down, and have good reliability.

JayK12

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2,324 posts

202 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Heres an update from last weekned guys:
Well i wasnt really in the mood to work on the car, just didnt feel like it.

However i got the pipework tidy'd up, a new piece made so one less hose connecting.
Ends Flared.
Fit Magnecor leads
Picked up bumper from my mate who trimmed down the inside
Still didnt fit so had to remove the flat bit at the bottom in the middle of the bumper
Wired in new Injector plugs
Looked a where the hell im going to fit the catch tank.
Fitted Injectors which were longer than that oe ones so the fuel rail didnt sit right, resolved that.

Need to spray the intercooler black, Will get some black mesh on the bumper too.

And yes the intercooler is off center, but i needed to do that get the pipe work the way it. Im not liking the look at the moment, im really wanted the intercooler hidden, the BOV will be on the Turbo side to so might be sticking out of the bumper. Ooops.




Samco on this 90 degree elbow will be shortend as the pipe work goes near enough to the bend.


New pipe made, straight then a nice bend and cut how i wanted it, saves putting in a join and does the job perfectly




















This weekend is the last weekend i do any work on it, i just havent got the time. So i will be:

Weld BOV Mount to Pipe Work
Bolt up all Pipe Work and BOV
Fit Intank Fuel Pump
Fit Turbo Oil Line
Fit AEM EMS
Bolt DownPipe
Fit Oil Catch Tank
Connect Up Oil Cooler and Mount Oil Filter
Check all pipe's on the Inlet manifold are clipped on
Modify Bonnet - Remove inside bits to get bonnet to close.

I think i can get that done, then im sending her off for mapping and a few bits that Thor will take care of. I.e External Fuel Pump / Gauges / Mapping.

Its almost time to st myself. The figure guesses are coming in lol.

Marf

22,907 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Looking good. Which ECU will you be using?

Conian

8,030 posts

201 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Paint me purple and call me Mr Thicko if need be....
but... is there any reason why you couldn't turn the intercooler upside down?
I really dont like that 180 degree pipe work on the right hand side, and if those entry/exit pips were poking upwards you could maybe get better routed pipes onto them?

JayK12

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2,324 posts

202 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Marf said:
Looking good. Which ECU will you be using?
AEM EMS.

JayK12

Original Poster:

2,324 posts

202 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Conian said:
Paint me purple and call me Mr Thicko if need be....
but... is there any reason why you couldn't turn the intercooler upside down?
I really dont like that 180 degree pipe work on the right hand side, and if those entry/exit pips were poking upwards you could maybe get better routed pipes onto them?
lol. I tried that but it didnt fit/work at all like that.

5potTurbo

12,534 posts

168 months

Thursday 8th July 2010
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JayK12 said:
Conian said:
Paint me purple and call me Mr Thicko if need be....
but... is there any reason why you couldn't turn the intercooler upside down?
I really dont like that 180 degree pipe work on the right hand side, and if those entry/exit pips were poking upwards you could maybe get better routed pipes onto them?
lol. I tried that but it didnt fit/work at all like that.
I was going to ask the same thing. It's a shame the I/C inlet/outlet are not at straight out at the side or pointing up.
Cracking build so far - and I look forward to seeing the mapped numbers soon. thumbup

Edited by 5potTurbo on Thursday 8th July 08:39

Conian

8,030 posts

201 months

Thursday 8th July 2010
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also, is that turbo doing to melt your bonnet?
I'm not picking holes honest, i love this build!

rallycross

12,794 posts

237 months

Friday 9th July 2010
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Modification one; buy a very large fire extinguisher and keep it in the car, it looks like you will need it very soon.


Good luck with it, the ATR is a brilliant car, this project looks a bit crazy but hats off to you for trying something this mad!

SummerTime

1,292 posts

172 months

Friday 9th July 2010
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Looking good jay thumbup

JayK12

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2,324 posts

202 months

Friday 9th July 2010
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5potTurbo said:
JayK12 said:
Conian said:
Paint me purple and call me Mr Thicko if need be....
but... is there any reason why you couldn't turn the intercooler upside down?
I really dont like that 180 degree pipe work on the right hand side, and if those entry/exit pips were poking upwards you could maybe get better routed pipes onto them?
lol. I tried that but it didnt fit/work at all like that.
I was going to ask the same thing. It's a shame the I/C inlet/outlet are not at straight out at the side or pointing up.
Cracking build so far - and I look forward to seeing the mapped numbers soon. thumbup

Edited by 5potTurbo on Thursday 8th July 08:39
I was thinking that, but its worked out pretty good. The hoses are good for high boost pressures, i know i'l loose abit of pressure through them, if i have to , i'll get a pipe made up for the U bend.

Thats the best i can get the Turbo, i cant point it down because of the alternator. So if the intercooler pipes were straight i would have to take pipe work to the right, re-located the washer bottle, bring it up then some how get it to connect to the Turbo. I think the way ive got it is good, and the best way i could have done it. It is a really short run from the Turbo to the intercooler.

So am i, althought i hate seeing my cars on the Dyno, always have a fear of boom.

This weekend i will work my ass of on it and get as much done as i can. Im really close, i cant feel it. I just need time, as i work away during the week which is well annoying.

Cheers for all the comments.

Thanks
Jay

Space Invader

73 posts

166 months

Friday 9th July 2010
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Subscribed cool

Conian

8,030 posts

201 months

Friday 9th July 2010
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Better to boom on the dyno than when passing a Saxo n looking a tit biggrin

Ry_B

2,256 posts

201 months

Saturday 10th July 2010
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Great, love it, this thing will be mental.