VW Corrado TFSI project
Discussion
Hello guys and girls,
I'll introduce myself first. My name is Pete, I'm 25 and live in Norwich, Norfolk. Massively into Volkswagen's, retro
, but I have a good appreciation for all cars, however I seem to favour older cars more, don't know why?
My Corrado started life as a G60 (1.8 8v supercharged). I sold the engine, charger, gearbox and loom etc to a chap who was doing a Mk1 Golf G60 conversion. So my Corrado sat in storage looking rather sorry for itself without an engine. My goal for this project was to keep the characteristics of the car but modernise the mechanical aspects i.e. engine, brakes, suspension etc. So with the missus out of the house I jumped on eBay to see what was knocking about. I had given a lot of thought as to what engine to go for. A 20v Turbo BAM engine from either a 225 Audi TT or S3 was suggested a lot and whilst that was a sensible option I found it a bit to common. I also considered a Mk5 Golf R32 engine, it would have been an epic conversion but again it was becoming a popular conversion. I continued to scan forums and eBay in the hope I'd find something, I even considered an Audi S4 2.7 V6 Bi-turbo engine but the work involved would have been ridiculous. During another usual Saturday afternoon on eBay I stumbled across a Mk5 Golf GTI 2.0 TFSI. I thought to my myself 'dumb ass, why didn't you think of that earlier!'. The engine had come out a 58 plate GTI with only 10k on the clock which had been rear ended. The auction was for the engine, turbo, gearbox, loom, clocks, keys and ECU, the lot basically. I called the chap up, who was based in Nottingham asked him a few questions etc and told him I would have it. To this day I still can't believe how much I paid - £900
.
Pictures;
Engine removal
TFSI Engine
TFSI mock up and strip down
Since the mock up stage I've aquired some performance enhancing mods like a KO4 turbo from a Seat Leon Cupra R and Audi S3 injectors. Further mods in the pipe line are a EVOMS intake, HPFP and a remap. All this should be good for about 350bhp.
I'm doing a little more work on her tomorrow so I'll post some updated pictures then.
I'll introduce myself first. My name is Pete, I'm 25 and live in Norwich, Norfolk. Massively into Volkswagen's, retro
, but I have a good appreciation for all cars, however I seem to favour older cars more, don't know why? My Corrado started life as a G60 (1.8 8v supercharged). I sold the engine, charger, gearbox and loom etc to a chap who was doing a Mk1 Golf G60 conversion. So my Corrado sat in storage looking rather sorry for itself without an engine. My goal for this project was to keep the characteristics of the car but modernise the mechanical aspects i.e. engine, brakes, suspension etc. So with the missus out of the house I jumped on eBay to see what was knocking about. I had given a lot of thought as to what engine to go for. A 20v Turbo BAM engine from either a 225 Audi TT or S3 was suggested a lot and whilst that was a sensible option I found it a bit to common. I also considered a Mk5 Golf R32 engine, it would have been an epic conversion but again it was becoming a popular conversion. I continued to scan forums and eBay in the hope I'd find something, I even considered an Audi S4 2.7 V6 Bi-turbo engine but the work involved would have been ridiculous. During another usual Saturday afternoon on eBay I stumbled across a Mk5 Golf GTI 2.0 TFSI. I thought to my myself 'dumb ass, why didn't you think of that earlier!'. The engine had come out a 58 plate GTI with only 10k on the clock which had been rear ended. The auction was for the engine, turbo, gearbox, loom, clocks, keys and ECU, the lot basically. I called the chap up, who was based in Nottingham asked him a few questions etc and told him I would have it. To this day I still can't believe how much I paid - £900
.Pictures;
Engine removal
TFSI Engine
TFSI mock up and strip down
Since the mock up stage I've aquired some performance enhancing mods like a KO4 turbo from a Seat Leon Cupra R and Audi S3 injectors. Further mods in the pipe line are a EVOMS intake, HPFP and a remap. All this should be good for about 350bhp.
I'm doing a little more work on her tomorrow so I'll post some updated pictures then.
Edited by MaverickTFSI on Saturday 25th September 20:35
Edited by MaverickTFSI on Saturday 25th September 20:39
nice one, shame to take a perfectly good G60 apart, but that will be a rapid car once all finished.
What turbo does the tfsi engine have? I wouldnt have thought the ko4 turbo wouldnt have been an upgrade, or is the standard turbo at its limit at 260 bhp where a re-mapped MK5 would be at power wise
Keep the updates coming mate
What turbo does the tfsi engine have? I wouldnt have thought the ko4 turbo wouldnt have been an upgrade, or is the standard turbo at its limit at 260 bhp where a re-mapped MK5 would be at power wise
Keep the updates coming mate
Jettagti said:
nice one, shame to take a perfectly good G60 apart, but that will be a rapid car once all finished.
What turbo does the tfsi engine have? I wouldnt have thought the ko4 turbo wouldnt have been an upgrade, or is the standard turbo at its limit at 260 bhp where a re-mapped MK5 would be at power wise
Keep the updates coming mate
I know but your limited with tuning options and perfomance gains. It went to a good home though. The basic GTI TFSI comes with the smaller KO3 turbo which produces 200PS and other VAG cars such as Mk5 Edition 30, S3 and Leon Cupra R run with the KO4 producing between 230-265PS. As you say, the limits of the KO3 are approx 260-280bhp but the KO4 set up with complementing up-grades such as injectors, internals, intake, HPFP and remap you can hit 350bhp+What turbo does the tfsi engine have? I wouldnt have thought the ko4 turbo wouldnt have been an upgrade, or is the standard turbo at its limit at 260 bhp where a re-mapped MK5 would be at power wise
Keep the updates coming mate
There will be plenty of up-dates mate
Edited by MaverickTFSI on Saturday 25th September 23:53
Make it 4wd, with independent suspension all round.
Otherwise you have just ruined a g60 and will have created a fwd corrado with even more power than the mk2 golf chassis can handle.
I really don't get this sort of tuning, theres no skill in doing engine swaps. The car that the tfsi engine came out of is a modern day car with modern suspension, a corrado had beam rear suspension ffs. The front suspension was pretty much identical to the mk1 golf suspension circa the late 70s.
Way to go.
Otherwise you have just ruined a g60 and will have created a fwd corrado with even more power than the mk2 golf chassis can handle.
I really don't get this sort of tuning, theres no skill in doing engine swaps. The car that the tfsi engine came out of is a modern day car with modern suspension, a corrado had beam rear suspension ffs. The front suspension was pretty much identical to the mk1 golf suspension circa the late 70s.
Way to go.
You crack on as you are, if your after some fwd fun then you're going to have a hoot once that TFSI is in properly. Met a chap who has the same TFSI/T04 engine in a MK2 Golf and he was out gunning most things, he managed to dispose of a 612 Scaglietti on the dual carriageway about a month ago.
Really like the stock oem look from the outside but with updated mechanicals, i'd consider doing the same to my MK2 GTI. The chap with the MK2 was a Storm developments car and from memory the conversion is about £7500 so if you get all this done yourself you'll have done a cracking job.
Well done so far.
Really like the stock oem look from the outside but with updated mechanicals, i'd consider doing the same to my MK2 GTI. The chap with the MK2 was a Storm developments car and from memory the conversion is about £7500 so if you get all this done yourself you'll have done a cracking job.
Well done so far.
Clearly I'm missing something here.
You can have this 2006 GTI 2.0 TFSI for less money than the cost of buying a mk2 and doing £7500 of conversion to get a 2.0 tfsi lump in it
http://pistonheads.com/sales/2053982.htm
With the modern GTI comes better driving dynamics,suitable brakes,easy insurance,an NCAP rating, and in the general publics view (and that includes the laydees) a better car (than a frankenstein mk2/corrado/tfsi cut and shut).
However, if the o/p had got 300 bhp out of the g-lader unit ......
You can have this 2006 GTI 2.0 TFSI for less money than the cost of buying a mk2 and doing £7500 of conversion to get a 2.0 tfsi lump in it
http://pistonheads.com/sales/2053982.htm
With the modern GTI comes better driving dynamics,suitable brakes,easy insurance,an NCAP rating, and in the general publics view (and that includes the laydees) a better car (than a frankenstein mk2/corrado/tfsi cut and shut).
However, if the o/p had got 300 bhp out of the g-lader unit ......
hman said:
Clearly I'm missing something here.
Clearly you are. The project is clearly something he is doing for himself, not for you. The engineering challenges appeal to him, and the product at the end of the day will be something he can say he has achieved himself. Edited by Bosshogg76 on Sunday 26th September 10:28
Bosshogg76 said:
hman said:
Clearly I'm missing something here.
Clearly you are. The project is clearly something he is doing for himself, not for you. The engineering challenges appeal to him, and the product at the end of the day will be something he can say he has achieved himself. Edited by Bosshogg76 on Sunday 26th September 10:28
£900 for the engine and is doing the conversion himself. So, unless you can negotiate £6000 off the price of the 06 GTI it wouldn't be comparable???hman said:
Make it 4wd, with independent suspension all round.
I really don't get this sort of tuning, theres no skill in doing engine swaps. The car that the tfsi engine came out of is a modern day car with modern suspension, a corrado had beam rear suspension ffs. The front suspension was pretty much identical to the mk1 golf suspension circa the late 70s.
Way to go.
Didn't Evo magazine rate the rado as one of their all time favourite fwd chassis?I really don't get this sort of tuning, theres no skill in doing engine swaps. The car that the tfsi engine came out of is a modern day car with modern suspension, a corrado had beam rear suspension ffs. The front suspension was pretty much identical to the mk1 golf suspension circa the late 70s.
Way to go.
hman said:
Clearly I'm missing something here.
You can have this 2006 GTI 2.0 TFSI for less money than the cost of buying a mk2 and doing £7500 of conversion to get a 2.0 tfsi lump in it
http://pistonheads.com/sales/2053982.htm
With the modern GTI comes better driving dynamics,suitable brakes,easy insurance,an NCAP rating, and in the general publics view (and that includes the laydees) a better car (than a frankenstein mk2/corrado/tfsi cut and shut).
However, if the o/p had got 300 bhp out of the g-lader unit ......
It'll also be considerably slower and handle much worse. The Mk5 that is, not the Corrado.You can have this 2006 GTI 2.0 TFSI for less money than the cost of buying a mk2 and doing £7500 of conversion to get a 2.0 tfsi lump in it
http://pistonheads.com/sales/2053982.htm
With the modern GTI comes better driving dynamics,suitable brakes,easy insurance,an NCAP rating, and in the general publics view (and that includes the laydees) a better car (than a frankenstein mk2/corrado/tfsi cut and shut).
However, if the o/p had got 300 bhp out of the g-lader unit ......
300bhp out of a G-Lader is pretty much impossible on the 8v heads. It's just about doable on a twin screw or TVS supercharger, but for more than abour 280bhp on the G charger you need a 16v head.
I'll be keeping my eye on this one, as I'm considering a Corrado as a weekend fettling toy. Good work OP- there have been a couple of 2.0 TFSI transpants done (I remember seeing an orange Mk2 with one in) but they're rumoured to be a nightmare to wire up.
Edited by ManOpener on Sunday 26th September 12:56
I too can understand why the OP wants to put a nearly new engine into a older chassis. You get all the extra power/reliability/economy that you get from a newish low mileage engine without the hulking great big, heavy NCAP approved chassis blunting all the advances the engine has to offer!
I've just put a 2 year old engine into a 13 year old chassis and the results are fantastic. Nearly double the capacity/power/torque/same tax bracket/better MPG and it goes like s
t of a shovel compared to before.
How is it for wiring up the ECU to the original Corrado electrics? Is there any nasty immobiliser/transponder stuff to work your way around? Will the ECU throw any CEL/limp mode if it doesn't see any ancilliaries/chassis electrics that were plugged into it previously?
I've just put a 2 year old engine into a 13 year old chassis and the results are fantastic. Nearly double the capacity/power/torque/same tax bracket/better MPG and it goes like s
t of a shovel compared to before.How is it for wiring up the ECU to the original Corrado electrics? Is there any nasty immobiliser/transponder stuff to work your way around? Will the ECU throw any CEL/limp mode if it doesn't see any ancilliaries/chassis electrics that were plugged into it previously?
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