My bodged Citroen BX 16v
Discussion
gregs656 said:
I saw this yesterday, pretty sure it was while I was sat in traffic on the M3 but may have still been on the 27 - I assume it was your missus driving. Nice to see it in the wild anyway.
We did Fareham to Eastleigh on the 27, and then Eastleigh to A34 on the M3. And then the reverse at about 5pm, so could well have been. Mrs Kitchski was indeed piloting it, initially given the choice of the BX or the AX. Similar kind of situation to being asked which fingernail you'd like removed more. She went BX, there and back 
The AX GT was with it, had a double date day out in Coventry! Pics to follow later
gregs656 said:
It would have been on the M3 on the way back I think. Never sat in so much traffic there.
The AX passed me by in the figurative as well as literal.
Weirdly I was heading toward Coventry.
I remember thinking on the way back down the A34: "Traffic's bad going south before the weekend, north at the end of the weekend....I hope!"The AX passed me by in the figurative as well as literal.
Weirdly I was heading toward Coventry.
About halfway back down the A34 I realised I'd remembered it right!
Thanks for this thread. I've just bought a 205 gti so I'm in a french mood, it seems.
My mum had a BX, only a NA Diesel, but she loved it. I joke to her I'll get her a GTI, but she wants an NSU Ru80 now...
The BX styling doesn't sit well with me straight away but I think it'd grow on me, and it beats the dullness we see churned out today.
AX is cool too, my brother had one.
My mum had a BX, only a NA Diesel, but she loved it. I joke to her I'll get her a GTI, but she wants an NSU Ru80 now...
The BX styling doesn't sit well with me straight away but I think it'd grow on me, and it beats the dullness we see churned out today.
AX is cool too, my brother had one.
Taz1383 said:
Thanks for this thread. I've just bought a 205 gti so I'm in a french mood, it seems.
My mum had a BX, only a NA Diesel, but she loved it. I joke to her I'll get her a GTI, but she wants an NSU Ru80 now...
The BX styling doesn't sit well with me straight away but I think it'd grow on me, and it beats the dullness we see churned out today.
AX is cool too, my brother had one.
Cheers. Keep the 205 8v, only commoners bother with that 16v conversion. They're overrated anyway My mum had a BX, only a NA Diesel, but she loved it. I joke to her I'll get her a GTI, but she wants an NSU Ru80 now...
The BX styling doesn't sit well with me straight away but I think it'd grow on me, and it beats the dullness we see churned out today.
AX is cool too, my brother had one.
Had a good weekend just gone in the BX. The AX had a fairly busy fortnight too, but I'll update that one later.
This weekend included AX and BX activities. We drove to an event called 'Parking With Planes', organised by the Midland Region of the Citroen Car Club. The event is held at the Midland Air Museum, and basically consists driving into the museum grounds, and parking amongst the aeroplanes. If you think long and hard, Parking With Planes is a pretty good name for it.
First time I've taken two cars to an event for quite a few years now, and definitely the first time I'd bundled the entire family into the convoy! Mrs Kitchski was given the choice of the BX or the AX, and chose the BX. She chose wisely; The AX is admirable at long journeys and is much more adept at it than you'd give it credit for, but it's still no where near as good at them as a BX - even a noisy, buzzy 16v version!
So we hit the road. Picture from the AX GT, courtesy of Jack, one of my 7 year olds:
Quick stop at the services, partly so the kids can have a wee, and partly because the boys wanted to swap seats!:
So we arrive at the museum. I knew they had a Vulcan, but also know it was unlikely anyone would be able to park near it. I also knew they had a Starfighter, a Lightning and a Canberra, so kept my fingers crossed I'd get to park up near one of those.
Got lucky:
Special mention for the museum: Looks small, but a good collection of Cold War Jets (the best kind of jets) and lots of content inside. Plus, you're allowed in the Vulcan! I'd recommend it if you're a fan of winged-things.
340 miles covered since Sunday morning, and another 300 mile round trip due on Sunday to the last Citroen event of the year (that's if I take the BX over the AX, which I'm likely to do). I reckon it nudged 40mpg on that trip to Coventry!
Trip to Paris in October and then the BX will officially go SORN at the end of that month. I'd love to say I'll crack on with the overhaul right away, but the reality is that it'll sit in my garage for another year at least while I get the other cars done. Only when I'm done with the other projects will I make a proper start on it. Even as I sit here and write this, I get a quick thought of "Oh, I suppose I might drag it out again next year and put the work off" which is what I normally do, but this time there's an instant gut-clenching moment where I remember that this time, I can't just get it back out and use it. Not unless I want to risk the car, or the passengers. I know one guy who had a rear axle come off the back of a BX. Imagine that happening mid-bend on an A-road! Mine's not that bad at first glance, but who knows how strong it'd be in a year or two.
Getting some miles in while I can
This weekend included AX and BX activities. We drove to an event called 'Parking With Planes', organised by the Midland Region of the Citroen Car Club. The event is held at the Midland Air Museum, and basically consists driving into the museum grounds, and parking amongst the aeroplanes. If you think long and hard, Parking With Planes is a pretty good name for it.
First time I've taken two cars to an event for quite a few years now, and definitely the first time I'd bundled the entire family into the convoy! Mrs Kitchski was given the choice of the BX or the AX, and chose the BX. She chose wisely; The AX is admirable at long journeys and is much more adept at it than you'd give it credit for, but it's still no where near as good at them as a BX - even a noisy, buzzy 16v version!
So we hit the road. Picture from the AX GT, courtesy of Jack, one of my 7 year olds:
Quick stop at the services, partly so the kids can have a wee, and partly because the boys wanted to swap seats!:
So we arrive at the museum. I knew they had a Vulcan, but also know it was unlikely anyone would be able to park near it. I also knew they had a Starfighter, a Lightning and a Canberra, so kept my fingers crossed I'd get to park up near one of those.
Got lucky:
Special mention for the museum: Looks small, but a good collection of Cold War Jets (the best kind of jets) and lots of content inside. Plus, you're allowed in the Vulcan! I'd recommend it if you're a fan of winged-things.
340 miles covered since Sunday morning, and another 300 mile round trip due on Sunday to the last Citroen event of the year (that's if I take the BX over the AX, which I'm likely to do). I reckon it nudged 40mpg on that trip to Coventry!
Trip to Paris in October and then the BX will officially go SORN at the end of that month. I'd love to say I'll crack on with the overhaul right away, but the reality is that it'll sit in my garage for another year at least while I get the other cars done. Only when I'm done with the other projects will I make a proper start on it. Even as I sit here and write this, I get a quick thought of "Oh, I suppose I might drag it out again next year and put the work off" which is what I normally do, but this time there's an instant gut-clenching moment where I remember that this time, I can't just get it back out and use it. Not unless I want to risk the car, or the passengers. I know one guy who had a rear axle come off the back of a BX. Imagine that happening mid-bend on an A-road! Mine's not that bad at first glance, but who knows how strong it'd be in a year or two.
Getting some miles in while I can
Edited by Kitchski on Wednesday 7th September 21:23
Taz1383 said:
Haha. Trust me, I am, and I'm reliably informed the 205 is fast enough with the 8v!
Will be interesting to see for myself, for sure.
They're pretty strong. A mild cam in a 1.9 8v and induction/breathing mods would probably have it as quick as a BX 16v anyway, so they're not a million miles apart to start with. The main difference with the 16v is that it starts off pretty much as the 8v does, only it has a second wind at about 4500rpm that the 8v doesn't. In a 205 they're a 17sec 0-100mph car, so genuinely quicker, but yes I'd agree that the 8v is fast enough. I've driven standard 1.6 and 1.9, and mildly tweaked 1.9's, and the latter was fast enough for me!Will be interesting to see for myself, for sure.
Kitchski said:
Taz1383 said:
Thanks for this thread. I've just bought a 205 gti so I'm in a french mood, it seems.
My mum had a BX, only a NA Diesel, but she loved it. I joke to her I'll get her a GTI, but she wants an NSU Ru80 now...
The BX styling doesn't sit well with me straight away but I think it'd grow on me, and it beats the dullness we see churned out today.
AX is cool too, my brother had one.
Cheers. Keep the 205 8v, only commoners bother with that 16v conversion. They're overrated anyway My mum had a BX, only a NA Diesel, but she loved it. I joke to her I'll get her a GTI, but she wants an NSU Ru80 now...
The BX styling doesn't sit well with me straight away but I think it'd grow on me, and it beats the dullness we see churned out today.
AX is cool too, my brother had one.
You'll have to try mine out at some point to see if I can change your mind!
Kitchski said:
They're pretty strong. A mild cam in a 1.9 8v and induction/breathing mods would probably have it as quick as a BX 16v anyway, so they're not a million miles apart to start with. The main difference with the 16v is that it starts off pretty much as the 8v does, only it has a second wind at about 4500rpm that the 8v doesn't. In a 205 they're a 17sec 0-100mph car, so genuinely quicker, but yes I'd agree that the 8v is fast enough. I've driven standard 1.6 and 1.9, and mildly tweaked 1.9's, and the latter was fast enough for me!
+1A worked 8v is quick. A worked 16v is quicker :P
Leave all alone. Finding a straight 16v is hard enough let alone one which has been played with. This thread makes me really super want one again...
The last big update on the BX 16v, for a while at least.
The first thing of note is that I think it's going to end up on the telly sometime in the next couple of weeks. Some may remember back in the spring that it was used to film a new car show, and may also remember my tampon-throwing response to their use of the car! Well, it seems the show is about to air on the Travel Channel (I know) so we'll see how it comes out. Still trying to work out if I've taken it all to heart a bit too much or not, but my gut reaction at the time it was filmed with strong annoyance at the fact I'd bent over backwards to help them, and they basically used it to take the piss out of. I'm more mellow about it now, but then time has passed. Seeing it on the screen may well reignite my rage, but then I've seen what they've done with some of the other cars they used as verbal cannon fodder, and it's all very mild. Paddy McGuinness is the host, and it was clear on the day they've employed a guy who knows not a lot about cars to present a car programme, so it's a lot easier to laugh anything negative they say away. If James May ripped into my BX, I'd genuinely be heartbroken
Much more important thing of note; I took it back to France! Been meaning to do that since I got it way back in 2004, so it was an ambition fulfilled.
The trip was to Citroen's Conservatoire in Aulnay-Sous-Bois, a grotty rundown cesspit of a town just north of Paris, near the airport. Aulnay was actually home to a large PSA plant until a few years back, and both the AX and Saxo we have in the household were built there. It predominantly produced smaller Peugeots and Citroens, but the first CX right through to the last was also built there.
So, last Sunday morning, S10GTA and I set about the journey:
Rather than bore it along the A26/A1 peage routes from Calais to Paris, we wanted to make more of a road trip of it:
Simon decided we'd be going sans-SatNav. so as soon as we got off the chunnel, we avoided the motorways and headed for the coast:
This was a good idea. The coast route along to Boulogne-Sur-Mer is lovely. Didn't realise what a good view of the white cliffs you could get up there:
That's the road we're off to take:
The only drawback of this beautiful route, was the time it took. in the UK, motorways really do shave some time off a journey. In France, they can make a MASSIVE difference! We exited the back roads near Les Trois Fontaines and dove onto the A16; a not boring peage, full of viaducts and scenery:
We managed to cover almost three times the distance in the same time immediately after! We took the A16 down as far as Amiens, and then began to head cross country again. I have no issue paying to use roads like those. The BX probably didn't drop under 80mph the whole way, and the surface was smooth and quiet.
Having left the A16, our cross country route to Senlis (where we were staying) was easy and event free. And pretty, again:
We had a nice run across the countryside all the way to Senlis. It was one of those drives you remember!
That's part 1!
The first thing of note is that I think it's going to end up on the telly sometime in the next couple of weeks. Some may remember back in the spring that it was used to film a new car show, and may also remember my tampon-throwing response to their use of the car! Well, it seems the show is about to air on the Travel Channel (I know) so we'll see how it comes out. Still trying to work out if I've taken it all to heart a bit too much or not, but my gut reaction at the time it was filmed with strong annoyance at the fact I'd bent over backwards to help them, and they basically used it to take the piss out of. I'm more mellow about it now, but then time has passed. Seeing it on the screen may well reignite my rage, but then I've seen what they've done with some of the other cars they used as verbal cannon fodder, and it's all very mild. Paddy McGuinness is the host, and it was clear on the day they've employed a guy who knows not a lot about cars to present a car programme, so it's a lot easier to laugh anything negative they say away. If James May ripped into my BX, I'd genuinely be heartbroken
Much more important thing of note; I took it back to France! Been meaning to do that since I got it way back in 2004, so it was an ambition fulfilled.
The trip was to Citroen's Conservatoire in Aulnay-Sous-Bois, a grotty rundown cesspit of a town just north of Paris, near the airport. Aulnay was actually home to a large PSA plant until a few years back, and both the AX and Saxo we have in the household were built there. It predominantly produced smaller Peugeots and Citroens, but the first CX right through to the last was also built there.
So, last Sunday morning, S10GTA and I set about the journey:
Rather than bore it along the A26/A1 peage routes from Calais to Paris, we wanted to make more of a road trip of it:
Simon decided we'd be going sans-SatNav. so as soon as we got off the chunnel, we avoided the motorways and headed for the coast:
This was a good idea. The coast route along to Boulogne-Sur-Mer is lovely. Didn't realise what a good view of the white cliffs you could get up there:
That's the road we're off to take:
The only drawback of this beautiful route, was the time it took. in the UK, motorways really do shave some time off a journey. In France, they can make a MASSIVE difference! We exited the back roads near Les Trois Fontaines and dove onto the A16; a not boring peage, full of viaducts and scenery:
We managed to cover almost three times the distance in the same time immediately after! We took the A16 down as far as Amiens, and then began to head cross country again. I have no issue paying to use roads like those. The BX probably didn't drop under 80mph the whole way, and the surface was smooth and quiet.
Having left the A16, our cross country route to Senlis (where we were staying) was easy and event free. And pretty, again:
We had a nice run across the countryside all the way to Senlis. It was one of those drives you remember!
That's part 1!
The next day, we arrived at the Aulnay site in preparation for a visit I'd wanted to do for so long, and was never sure I'd get a chance to. The Conservatoire isn't open to the public (though that may all be about to change as Citroen's marketing team have suddenly remembered they have this thing called 'Heritage', and that Citroen's heritage is actually quite a big and impressive heritage. Unless you've got a DS (don't get me started on the 'DS' brand....)
So, Aulnay:
A bit of reading for those interested in the plant and its history:
http://citroenvie.com/last-citroen-rolls-out-of-au...
And inside Aulnay:
The BX was (I believe) the oldest car that made the trip from the UK. A few of the other guys have some older and more interesting models, but they wimped out and brought their modern versions along I suspect the BX was the only one to nudge a speed in France that S10GTA could attest, but I couldn't possibly divulge. All I can say is that I chose to back off - it was still pulling!
I won't bore everyone with pictures of the inside (I took 600!), but I'll do a public album or something soon and link to that for anyone who's interested. But it had the most important stuff in there:
Along with less important stuff, you know...like history:
The prototype TPV's hidden from the Nazis during WW2. Discovered behind a wall a decade or so ago!:
This is also worth a watch, if you want to know what it's like inside this place:
https://youtu.be/oFcNlBl_cjc
The place is brilliant! It's oozing innovation and history. And to cap it all off, an old bloke I saw smoking outside in a Citroen overcoat. He couldn't speak English, but we deduced that he worked in the factory until it closed and ordered a brand new CX in the 70's and walked with it along the line as it was being built (he still owns it). He was still upset that the plant closed, and said the new range had no passion behind it. No true innovation, or desire to be different if different proved to be better. It was all profits and corporate bulls
t. This guy was one of the best things about the visit.
There's something about Citroens, and other true French cars (cars actually built in France by the French) where you can sense that the reason they've done something different, is because different is better in that respect.
I had a little moment of clarity when I was driving home. One of those moments that kinda freezes you in time, and it was only a silly little thing. As I drove along, I was fresh with all things Citroen. Me being positive, for once! And it was in that moment that, for some reason, it sprang to my mind that there were quirks about the company and they way they did things that could also irritate. The BX rear wiper, for example. The switch doesn't latch, it only sweeps if you push the button. The reason? Because the aerodynamics of the BX mean that the rear screen doesn't get wet, and the airflow just blows the raindrops over the glass. "Total rubbish!" I thought, as I drove along a French motorway in the pissing rain. I clock the front wiper sweeping the screen, prepare to push the button for the rear wiper and move my gaze in the direction of the rear view mirror. Rear screen is bone dry, obviously. As I pointed this out to Simon, a single drip cascaded down the glass. bd French cars!
Incidentally, I watched something that drove the whole French engineering thing home the other day. Jay Leno's new episode on YT featuring his Panhard. Worth a watch, very cool car, and he nails the whole French design/engineering thing perfectly:
https://youtu.be/zcfVO6-UHgY
So anyway, brimming with French enthusiasm, we left. Nothing could dampen our spirits! Simon's non-SatNav map reading skills had been spot on, and the mood was good.
Was.
It began when we saw this:
The Stade De France. I love football, so this was cool for me. But not at that time, because it was rush-hour last Monday morning, and we were driving into Paris. The directions had massively gone to cock!
We got dragged in as far as the inner ring road, but managed to navigate back out again. The sense of relief was massive as we headed back up the A1, where we came off near a village called Arsy, which is what I was by this point. So we stopped and grabbed some more pics:
From Arsy, things got good again. We decided to head back over to our trusted friend, the A16, and the cross-country route we took was one of the best driving memories I think I'll ever have. Wide, empty French countryside roads passing through pretty villages, sun going down and in my favourite car with a best mate alongside me. It felt like a proper roadtrip!
Hit the A16 all the way back up to the chunnel, and made it there 30mins early:
Sailed straight in! It was so empty, the train was loaded on the bottom floor only, with every other carriage empty. Made getting to the toilet easier at least:
Back into the UK 30mins before we left France, and headed home. BX performed brilliantly, with the only glitch being that the speedo started clicking near Aulnay on the Monday morning. It's 26years old, and spent most of the previous day spinning around and on that frosty morning in Senlis it wasn't feeling like playing ball. That said, it didn't die and as soon as we got going again, it shut up and perfomed fine again.
Brilliant trip, brilliant venue, brilliant memories and the car was brilliant! Erm....brilliant!
So that's the BX done for a while................
........apart from a possible magazine feature coming up. And not a crap magazine either. In fact, it's probably the best one it could possibly be featured in as far as I'm concerned! Watch this space on that one, however after that, it'll be parked up in the garage until I've finished all the other projects. Then the major overhaul underneath can commence.
So, Aulnay:
A bit of reading for those interested in the plant and its history:
http://citroenvie.com/last-citroen-rolls-out-of-au...
And inside Aulnay:
The BX was (I believe) the oldest car that made the trip from the UK. A few of the other guys have some older and more interesting models, but they wimped out and brought their modern versions along
I suspect the BX was the only one to nudge a speed in France that S10GTA could attest, but I couldn't possibly divulge. All I can say is that I chose to back off - it was still pulling!I won't bore everyone with pictures of the inside (I took 600!), but I'll do a public album or something soon and link to that for anyone who's interested. But it had the most important stuff in there:
Along with less important stuff, you know...like history:
The prototype TPV's hidden from the Nazis during WW2. Discovered behind a wall a decade or so ago!:
This is also worth a watch, if you want to know what it's like inside this place:
https://youtu.be/oFcNlBl_cjc
The place is brilliant! It's oozing innovation and history. And to cap it all off, an old bloke I saw smoking outside in a Citroen overcoat. He couldn't speak English, but we deduced that he worked in the factory until it closed and ordered a brand new CX in the 70's and walked with it along the line as it was being built (he still owns it). He was still upset that the plant closed, and said the new range had no passion behind it. No true innovation, or desire to be different if different proved to be better. It was all profits and corporate bulls
t. This guy was one of the best things about the visit. There's something about Citroens, and other true French cars (cars actually built in France by the French) where you can sense that the reason they've done something different, is because different is better in that respect.
I had a little moment of clarity when I was driving home. One of those moments that kinda freezes you in time, and it was only a silly little thing. As I drove along, I was fresh with all things Citroen. Me being positive, for once! And it was in that moment that, for some reason, it sprang to my mind that there were quirks about the company and they way they did things that could also irritate. The BX rear wiper, for example. The switch doesn't latch, it only sweeps if you push the button. The reason? Because the aerodynamics of the BX mean that the rear screen doesn't get wet, and the airflow just blows the raindrops over the glass. "Total rubbish!" I thought, as I drove along a French motorway in the pissing rain. I clock the front wiper sweeping the screen, prepare to push the button for the rear wiper and move my gaze in the direction of the rear view mirror. Rear screen is bone dry, obviously. As I pointed this out to Simon, a single drip cascaded down the glass. b
d French cars!Incidentally, I watched something that drove the whole French engineering thing home the other day. Jay Leno's new episode on YT featuring his Panhard. Worth a watch, very cool car, and he nails the whole French design/engineering thing perfectly:
https://youtu.be/zcfVO6-UHgY
So anyway, brimming with French enthusiasm, we left. Nothing could dampen our spirits! Simon's non-SatNav map reading skills had been spot on, and the mood was good.
Was.
It began when we saw this:
The Stade De France. I love football, so this was cool for me. But not at that time, because it was rush-hour last Monday morning, and we were driving into Paris. The directions had massively gone to cock!
We got dragged in as far as the inner ring road, but managed to navigate back out again. The sense of relief was massive as we headed back up the A1, where we came off near a village called Arsy, which is what I was by this point. So we stopped and grabbed some more pics:
From Arsy, things got good again. We decided to head back over to our trusted friend, the A16, and the cross-country route we took was one of the best driving memories I think I'll ever have. Wide, empty French countryside roads passing through pretty villages, sun going down and in my favourite car with a best mate alongside me. It felt like a proper roadtrip!
Hit the A16 all the way back up to the chunnel, and made it there 30mins early:
Sailed straight in! It was so empty, the train was loaded on the bottom floor only, with every other carriage empty. Made getting to the toilet easier at least:
Back into the UK 30mins before we left France, and headed home. BX performed brilliantly, with the only glitch being that the speedo started clicking near Aulnay on the Monday morning. It's 26years old, and spent most of the previous day spinning around and on that frosty morning in Senlis it wasn't feeling like playing ball. That said, it didn't die and as soon as we got going again, it shut up and perfomed fine again.
Brilliant trip, brilliant venue, brilliant memories and the car was brilliant! Erm....brilliant!
So that's the BX done for a while................
........apart from a possible magazine feature coming up. And not a crap magazine either. In fact, it's probably the best one it could possibly be featured in as far as I'm concerned! Watch this space on that one, however after that, it'll be parked up in the garage until I've finished all the other projects. Then the major overhaul underneath can commence.
agreed, brilliant write up, my late father would of loved to go to the heritage center as has was mad keen on Citroen's, mainly 2CV, dyane's, fourgonnette's (a member of 2CVGB and did the london 2 Brighton for years) which resulted in myself and sister having 2CV's as first cars! Later on he got into the Traction Avant. I remember him having a company car of a BX GTI, at them time (and now) I think that was such a cool and different car.
The other J leno video that is also interesting is the one on the DS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzW_ERSgFRY again shows the innovative french ways of doing things and Jay makes some great points.
Thanks for sharing
+1 for all the 600 pictures inside the heritage center
The other J leno video that is also interesting is the one on the DS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzW_ERSgFRY again shows the innovative french ways of doing things and Jay makes some great points.
Thanks for sharing
+1 for all the 600 pictures inside the heritage center
Was an enjoyable 36 hours and I'd forgotten how comfy the seats were. Think we covered 700 miles in that time. The car was excellent as always.
It was also great fun just using a map rather than sat nav, until we joined the A1 north on the way home (the way we'd got from Senlis) only to miss the turning to CdeG and the A1 north turned into the A1 south, bloody useless signposts. Just being in the passenger seat was stressful enough.
However, as Kitchski said, once back on track the bit afterwards from the A1 over to the A16 was brilliant. Wide empty roads, sweeping bends and beautiful villages whilst the sun set, it was one of those journeys you won't forget. The route down was pretty good too.
My only negative comment would be despite trying not to, we still had to spend a significant portion of time on the autoroute. We really tries to stay off them but crossing the country without using them is a slow process. Maybe we should have planned the route in advance...but where is the fun in that?
It was also great fun just using a map rather than sat nav, until we joined the A1 north on the way home (the way we'd got from Senlis) only to miss the turning to CdeG and the A1 north turned into the A1 south, bloody useless signposts. Just being in the passenger seat was stressful enough.
However, as Kitchski said, once back on track the bit afterwards from the A1 over to the A16 was brilliant. Wide empty roads, sweeping bends and beautiful villages whilst the sun set, it was one of those journeys you won't forget. The route down was pretty good too.
My only negative comment would be despite trying not to, we still had to spend a significant portion of time on the autoroute. We really tries to stay off them but crossing the country without using them is a slow process. Maybe we should have planned the route in advance...but where is the fun in that?
Edited by S10GTA on Sunday 16th October 16:08
Very jealous of that road trip! : (
The tolls in France are insanely expensive. Sounds like avoiding the motorways means a slower, but infinitely more interesting journey!
Also, there aren't many BX's still doing the rounds in France. At the beginning of the year, I only spotted a well loved Mk1 16 TRS in Macon. Xantias have fallen by the wayside as well...
The tolls in France are insanely expensive. Sounds like avoiding the motorways means a slower, but infinitely more interesting journey!
Also, there aren't many BX's still doing the rounds in France. At the beginning of the year, I only spotted a well loved Mk1 16 TRS in Macon. Xantias have fallen by the wayside as well...
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