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ok so the trimming was not all that good and had a few issues when you looked close.
So off to a friends i went to get some trimming advice and though i will start again so this is what i have so far
Still got some more to do on the card before this one is done and i have to admit i have used a HELL of a lot of glue, it does not go as far as you would think
So off to a friends i went to get some trimming advice and though i will start again so this is what i have so far
Still got some more to do on the card before this one is done and i have to admit i have used a HELL of a lot of glue, it does not go as far as you would think
ok so what i have been up to recently on the mong-deo
first off my new full range drivers for the a-pillars arrived, 2 of these per a-pillar. As they are fullrange it means i dont need a tweeter, these do it all and as they are from the GZ SQ line they should sound good as well, I may be mistaken but i think im the only person running these in the UK at the moment
so the doorcard i had nearly finished, when trimming for the door handle i slipped and took a chunk out. After much swearing and cursing i trimmed the area back a bit as you can see in this pic
The idea is to make a piece of trimming that goes over that area to frame the door handle - the same way the blue trim has been done around the doorpull/window switches. Once that has been done i will be sikaflexing the door back together
But as that will take time i thought i may as well get on with the other door
Firstly - more glue, i am going through so much of this stuff
part 1
Measuring up and aligning the black
taaaa daaaaa
still got a bit more to do but that is where i am up to
first off my new full range drivers for the a-pillars arrived, 2 of these per a-pillar. As they are fullrange it means i dont need a tweeter, these do it all and as they are from the GZ SQ line they should sound good as well, I may be mistaken but i think im the only person running these in the UK at the moment
so the doorcard i had nearly finished, when trimming for the door handle i slipped and took a chunk out. After much swearing and cursing i trimmed the area back a bit as you can see in this pic
The idea is to make a piece of trimming that goes over that area to frame the door handle - the same way the blue trim has been done around the doorpull/window switches. Once that has been done i will be sikaflexing the door back together
But as that will take time i thought i may as well get on with the other door
Firstly - more glue, i am going through so much of this stuff
part 1
Measuring up and aligning the black
taaaa daaaaa
still got a bit more to do but that is where i am up to
schuey said:
Have been warming up the material before laying on the door card? Makes is a bit easier to get round the tighter corners,I spent many a day swearing in the garage at similar projects!
Tidy garage by the way
thanks, i keep meaning to tidy it up but never get round to it, its only recently i cleared it out so i could get back into it.Tidy garage by the way
The fabric tbh is actually pretty stretchy and nice to work with, fake leather from dunelm mills - reasonbly priced as well.
I did think about heating it but the contact adhesive is vicious enough as is it is so i did not want to make it go off any quicker, literally as soon as the fabric touches it sets 80% solid so the time i have to play with is not a massive amount
I remember this thread from day one.
It's amazing to see how your 'coach building' skills have improved and how you are learning to work with the materials that work for you.
When the first few posts appeared I must admit I looked at some of the fabrication pics and thought 'eeek', but seriously the skills and experience you've gained by keeping on at this are really impressive!
As for a 6K rig in a car, I don't even think my oven needs that much to cook the lasagne I'm having for tea (or should that be dinner?).
Fantastic effort and I genuinely look forward to reading future posts.
As for projecting a Ford Logo from your mirrors... surely you can make it do one of these instead:
(From a fellow Yorkshireman, you know it makes sense)
It's amazing to see how your 'coach building' skills have improved and how you are learning to work with the materials that work for you.
When the first few posts appeared I must admit I looked at some of the fabrication pics and thought 'eeek', but seriously the skills and experience you've gained by keeping on at this are really impressive!
As for a 6K rig in a car, I don't even think my oven needs that much to cook the lasagne I'm having for tea (or should that be dinner?).
Fantastic effort and I genuinely look forward to reading future posts.
As for projecting a Ford Logo from your mirrors... surely you can make it do one of these instead:
(From a fellow Yorkshireman, you know it makes sense)
Edited by TheExcession on Tuesday 13th August 19:21
TBH i am not too happy with some of the bits of trimming but now the glue is set it is on for good but nothing to stop me making another set next year and if i am honest that is me being picky, for someone who is still learning how to trim they are alright-ish.
Ive always maintained the only way to learn something is to get stuck in and try it so I did, doorcards, material and glue are reasonably cheap (thank god for the pound shop and 5paint brushes for a quid) so its not mega expensive to give it a go
BTW the yorkshire rose idea is something i am toying with to project out of the boot
Ive always maintained the only way to learn something is to get stuck in and try it so I did, doorcards, material and glue are reasonably cheap (thank god for the pound shop and 5paint brushes for a quid) so its not mega expensive to give it a go
BTW the yorkshire rose idea is something i am toying with to project out of the boot
Right updates, updates updates
ive not done a huge amount to it as tbh it had to go on the back burner a bit but this is what i have done so far
I attempted to find a way to mount the full range drivers onto the a-pillar but no such luck, the build would fowl how the pillar fits so after a few other ideas i decided just to build pods on the dash
Firstly throw in my OEM pillars and mask the area up
Then make a fibgreglass mould - this was done on both sides of the dash
Then remove it (this is easier said than done and yes some resin did leech through the tape but glass cleaner soon sorted that out)
Once it has been removed, the tape stripped off it and any takyness has dried off place back on dash and position speakers
Hot glue the baffles into position, once glue is dry remove from car again and cut excess fibreglass off
Cover pods in fibreglass
While that is going on i retrimmed the a-pillars in Cream leatherette as well - OEM and trimmed up below
Body filler the pods ready for sanding to shape, pods hung up to dry as all sides had filler on them
At least now i know what i will look like as an old man due to the filler dust kicked up during sanding
Starting to take shape
White leatherette stuck to front of pods
Trimmed (badly - im teaching myself as i go and i am a bad bad pupil)
Both trimmed ready to try in the car
ive not done a huge amount to it as tbh it had to go on the back burner a bit but this is what i have done so far
I attempted to find a way to mount the full range drivers onto the a-pillar but no such luck, the build would fowl how the pillar fits so after a few other ideas i decided just to build pods on the dash
Firstly throw in my OEM pillars and mask the area up
Then make a fibgreglass mould - this was done on both sides of the dash
Then remove it (this is easier said than done and yes some resin did leech through the tape but glass cleaner soon sorted that out)
Once it has been removed, the tape stripped off it and any takyness has dried off place back on dash and position speakers
Hot glue the baffles into position, once glue is dry remove from car again and cut excess fibreglass off
Cover pods in fibreglass
While that is going on i retrimmed the a-pillars in Cream leatherette as well - OEM and trimmed up below
Body filler the pods ready for sanding to shape, pods hung up to dry as all sides had filler on them
At least now i know what i will look like as an old man due to the filler dust kicked up during sanding
Starting to take shape
White leatherette stuck to front of pods
Trimmed (badly - im teaching myself as i go and i am a bad bad pupil)
Both trimmed ready to try in the car
Edited by samuelellis on Saturday 19th October 01:32
Cheers but the problem with custom fabrication is like me when you are teaching yourself you end up making some stuff that looks arse, I got the pods in the car but i am not a fan of them they look like those speaker boxes people used to screw to parcel shelves in the 80's as you can see below
So tomorrows job is to tear them down and re-design, ah well its a learning curve especially when you are self taught. I have a few ideas on how to do this so its not too bad
So tomorrows job is to tear them down and re-design, ah well its a learning curve especially when you are self taught. I have a few ideas on how to do this so its not too bad
So todays work, as i said the pods looked a bit naff so tear them down, at the start of the day I had the trimmed pillars and the pods
So remove the leatherette on the pods and the pillars
So cute off the front of the pods, as you can see i went a bit OTT with thickness of the fibreglass, i work by the mentality of build it strong
Break out the baffles
then time to position the speakers, i positioned them by eye and then used hot glue and wooden poles to hold the baffle in the position i want, same done on the drivers side
first layer of fibreglass
Test fit
First layer of filler, same on the other side
Not bad for just one days work - tomorrow is more filler and trimming
So remove the leatherette on the pods and the pillars
So cute off the front of the pods, as you can see i went a bit OTT with thickness of the fibreglass, i work by the mentality of build it strong
Break out the baffles
then time to position the speakers, i positioned them by eye and then used hot glue and wooden poles to hold the baffle in the position i want, same done on the drivers side
first layer of fibreglass
Test fit
First layer of filler, same on the other side
Not bad for just one days work - tomorrow is more filler and trimming
99Chimaera said:
just daft, a good car spoilt, you would been better to get a van.
i did look for a van but have you ever tired buying a 2nd hand van? the 2nd hand van market had nothing really in budget, all high miles and showing them with absolutely zero creature comforts, plus as i commute in the car i wanted a couple of nicetys like climate control, cruse and as this replaced a mk3 mondeo hatch the famous Ford heated front windscreen.One of the reasons i went for this is that it was cheap and could carry the weight with no issue, plus i just think the Mk3 Mondeos are just a nice car. Yes i am aware that selling it on will be hard, but i dont ever intend to sell it. Its still comfortable, reaonably economical on the commute to work and even rides well, even when me and the Mrs start a family we will just buy another car for ferrying kids round in
Well todays work on it, not much. Did the final coat of filler and started preppring for trimming but the material i have is not stretchy enough so i decided to down tools and spend a day just thinking of ideas to trim them
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