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mrdemon

21,146 posts

266 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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Sports button give a GT3 more Torque also.

for me in any road car it's a must have for the slip angle. standard cuts in to much with PSM.
if your not getting the wheels slipping in a Porsche should you really own one :-)

CrazyTurboBeast

168 posts

155 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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It raises the soft limiter on the Cayman, but not the hard limiter.
So I gues you could imply more power by P = T x n (except the torque is decreasing obviously)

SteveM46

303 posts

160 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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OK....on my 997.1 I've got Sports Chrono and also PSE. I thought the Sports button turned on the PSE and also the throttle remapping (to make it more sensitive), but that it had nothing do do with the Sports Chrono? Sports Chrono is adjusted on a stalk.

So are we saying that if you specify Sports Chrono you get the timer function and the throttle re-mapping? In which case it must be configured differently if you also have PSE since I press Sports, exhaust gets noisy, throttle re-maps and suspension is tightened up (and I also then press the other button to turn off the suspension stiffening since i find it too hard on most roads).

Steve

Scelto

619 posts

158 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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SteveM46 said:
So are we saying that if you specify Sports Chrono you get the timer function and the throttle re-mapping?
Yes. And the other stuff mentioned in this thread (more tail-wagging, gearbox mapping for PDK, etc).

My 997.2 setup is very similar to yours except my PSE is on a separate switch, so I can have the PSE on without being in Sport mode.

SteveM46

303 posts

160 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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Scelto said:
SteveM46 said:
So are we saying that if you specify Sports Chrono you get the timer function and the throttle re-mapping?
Yes. And the other stuff mentioned in this thread (more tail-wagging, gearbox mapping for PDK, etc).

My 997.2 setup is very similar to yours except my PSE is on a separate switch, so I can have the PSE on without being in Sport mode.
Ah...got it. To achieve the same in the 997.1 then, I need to disconnect the brown thingy in the engine bay to switch PSE to permanently on, and then i can also have the 'softer' (non-Sport) throttle response at the same time. Although I have to say i much prefer the sharper response; feels like I'm in a slower car with it switched off. I'm in a manual btw.

juansolo

3,012 posts

279 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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Sharper throttle map = less travel for same effect. More power = removal of soft limiter. More slip angle from PSM = loosening of PSM. Alternatively turn PSM off, press the throttle harder, don't bounce it off the limiter and save yourself £300-£600 and an ugly wart on your dash.

Dr S

4,997 posts

227 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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mrdemon said:
Sports button give a GT3 more Torque also.

for me in any road car it's a must have for the slip angle. standard cuts in to much with PSM.
if your not getting the wheels slipping in a Porsche should you really own one :-)
This is not true for the 7.2 GT3. There is a lift in torque at certain revs. But this is due to the sports exhaust being opened (which all GT3's have a button for) and not due to Sports Chrono itself.

My OPC confirmed to me that Sports Chrono in the GT3 genuinly only offers the stop watch function. The latter is ridiculous. If you really wanted to do proper timing on track you'd go for proper equipment like racelogic etc.

MDT48

389 posts

195 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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juansolo said:
Sharper throttle map = less travel for same effect. More power = removal of soft limiter. More slip angle from PSM = loosening of PSM. Alternatively turn PSM off, press the throttle harder, don't bounce it off the limiter and save yourself £300-£600 and an ugly wart on your dash.
Which is why I didn't bother to spec sport chrono on my Cayman R. Had it on my 997 and the most notable thing about it was the ugly dial in the middle of the dash. And the fact that I had to hit the sport button to get the exhaust loud.

Different story with PDK of course - pretty much essential option then.

Lordglenmorangie

3,057 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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juansolo said:
Sharper throttle map = less travel for same effect. More power = removal of soft limiter. More slip angle from PSM = loosening of PSM. Alternatively turn PSM off, press the throttle harder, don't bounce it off the limiter and save yourself £300-£600 and an ugly wart on your dash.
You don't have time to look at the dash in a Turbo biggrin

Durzel

12,288 posts

169 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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I recently got Sport Mode (Sports Chrono minus the wart) retrofitted to my Cayman S and since then I've always pressed the Sport button pretty much as soon as I've gotten into the car. I make up the lack of extra power by going "neeeeoowwwwwww burrrrrrrrrummmmmmm!" as I'm driving.

It's somewhat of a poisoned chalice really because once you've got it you'll tend to perceive a performance difference that isn't really there, and in certain configurations pressing Sport switches on things you love (PSE) whilst simultaneously switching on things you'd rather not (PASM).

It is a nice option but it's very model specific in terms of the benefits you get from it.

J-P

4,353 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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I've got it in mine and I'd spec it again. As already stated it's a really nice to have but not a must have. Mine's a manual but I really appreciate the improved throttle response when heel and toeing and increased slip angles are also a laugh on track.

nsm3

2,831 posts

197 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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I have it and think it's a must have - the dash looks truly awful without the chrono clock ;-)

Tony 1234

Original Poster:

3,465 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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The reason for the OP, was because I've a 991S PDK on order but I'm not sure if to spec it or not!

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

210 months

Tuesday 25th October 2011
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Tony 1234 said:
The reason for the OP, was because I've a 991S PDK on order but I'm not sure if to spec it or not!
For the relative cost, I would go for it.

Its one of the few things thats worth it, although it should be standard really. But hey, theres no extra dealer profit in that is there!

MTR



Scelto

619 posts

158 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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mollytherocker said:
Tony 1234 said:
The reason for the OP, was because I've a 991S PDK on order but I'm not sure if to spec it or not!
For the relative cost, I would go for it.
Seconded. Especially as you have PDK.

If I were specing a new car, it'd definitely be on the list.


CrazyTurboBeast

168 posts

155 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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It is addictive, I'd have it on all the time if the roads in UK were in a decent shape. (Or if I lived in Europe - they put us to shame)

But for some bizarre reason there must be some sort of gremlin in the system because when sport mode is on, the car seems to be driven faster and harder. I just can't figure this out, am just a passenger with sport mode on, honestly - officer.

Peter Cee

90 posts

182 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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Essential option on a PDK car.

Makes a massive difference to accelleration.

The car feels dead with it turned off.

Durzel

12,288 posts

169 months

Wednesday 26th October 2011
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It's been said already but does anyone else think it is rather silly that a "must have" option to improve sportyness isn't just standard spec, especially when we're talking about a purely software upgrade?

AndrewMontgomery

471 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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I have a 997TT. Does anyone know if running the car constantly in sport mode affects fuel consumption in 'normal' driving?

I know this sounds like a strange thing to ask about such an expensive car but most of the time i wouldn't bother engaging sport mode as Im not in open driving conditions and it can be switched on and off easily. The sharper throttle response is better in sport mode and would be preferable in most driving however but its a marginal call and if it significantly increased fuel consumption i wouldnt bother for all the difference it makes in 90% of circumstances.

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

210 months

Thursday 27th October 2011
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AndrewMontgomery said:
I have a 997TT. Does anyone know if running the car constantly in sport mode affects fuel consumption in 'normal' driving?

I know this sounds like a strange thing to ask about such an expensive car but most of the time i wouldn't bother engaging sport mode as Im not in open driving conditions and it can be switched on and off easily. The sharper throttle response is better in sport mode and would be preferable in most driving however but its a marginal call and if it significantly increased fuel consumption i wouldnt bother for all the difference it makes in 90% of circumstances.
I would guess that it would have a small but measureable effect. However, the increased throttle response may 'encourage' more spirited acceleration?

MTR