I've just bought some poverty Pork…

[pete.g]

jakesmith said:

pete.g said:

That would be great - please PM me with details.

I have always specified them in my daily drivers for the same reasons as you.

I had thought of trying to get the looms and switches from a breaker as a wee project, but if there's an easier route, I'd be happy to consider it.

Thank you - good to be part of a thread where we're discussing, advising and helping rather than the usual!

I was just about to type it all out but here you go...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=734&am...

The kit is something like £30
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-4pcs-Universal-Carb...

My 986 didn't even have the hog rings, I just slid the pads in, the whole job took about 4 hours end to end

If you want the OEM switches it really is a total ball-ache and unless you are good with electronics I wouldn't bother.
Also this place can do it for you for £300 per seat. I just did the driver's seat in my R8 as it's only ever me in there YMMV.
https://www.uniquecarsound.com/

Thanks - I had a look at the parts list and procedures for an OE fitment and it's ludicrous, so I'll try to source the aftermarket parts. I'm handy enough with electrics.

[Andyoz]

pete.g said:

Hi Andy - if you have an existing relationship with George McMillan and he has an existing relationship with the vendor's car, then why not see if you can get a bit more background on the car? (With the vendor's permission, of course.)

Yes, I did that with my 987 and if serious about this one would ring him and drop in on the way home actually.

[Andyoz]

anonymous said:

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IMS was done at 65k so would have been under McMillans watch.

I'll get to the bottom of it next week.

Desperate weather here in NI...good car buying weather...;)

[rallyman1978]

ATM said:

rufusgti said:

ATM said:

3 day auction

Could be a cheap car

Its well used which is reassuring - seat looks a bit worn though

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/153829134408

5 minutes left and 11k. Seems good value to me.

It has sold 3 times prior to this and then been relisted everytime.

Despite really wanting an aero kitted 3.4 this piqued my interest and I enquired about it at the weekend. It has genuinely sold.
The search continues...

[Andyoz]

That blue Boxster Sold before I got a chance to look at it - turns out it was 1.5 hours away and not half an hour.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/17595478...

I'm not too fussed as still decided what soft top I'd go for. I've even seen a nice 997.2 manual cab...the weight though etc..

[Andyoz]

I'm currently thinking the smart money for a convertible is Boxster 987.2 with the 2.9 rev loving lump. I was impressed by my mates gen 2 Cayman engine. Convertibles aern't about outright speed right...

Not many have PSE fitted so maybe Carnwell it.

I can't figure out if on the Boxster gen 2, the brakes are essentially the same on the Base and the S. I know on the gen 2 Cayman they essentially are the same (only the rear disk is slightly thinner). What else is different apart from engine?

I'd always keep the Cayman S though.

[jakesmith]

Andyoz said:

That blue Boxster Sold before I got a chance to look at it - turns out it was 1.5 hours away and not half an hour.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/17595478...

I'm not too fussed as still decided what soft top I'd go for. I've even seen a nice 997.2 manual cab...the weight though etc..

Gen 2 cab is substantially more powerful than any Boxster apart from the 2.5t. I can’t say I noticed the weight increase from my 987S. The 997 platform was developed with the cab first to aid with stiffness. I’m not the sharpest driver for sure but I’d say my 997 4S cab was a similar beast to my R8 in handling. Possibly more confidence in the 997 as the rear grip is ridiculous. The 997 cab is not an E46 M3 level of compromise IMO. If you have a Cayman already the 987 will feel very similar. I’d go 997.2 manual if you can for a change.

[Andyoz]

jakesmith said:

Andyoz said:

That blue Boxster Sold before I got a chance to look at it - turns out it was 1.5 hours away and not half an hour.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/17595478...

I'm not too fussed as still decided what soft top I'd go for. I've even seen a nice 997.2 manual cab...the weight though etc..

Gen 2 cab is substantially more powerful than any Boxster apart from the 2.5t. I can’t say I noticed the weight increase from my 987S. The 997 platform was developed with the cab first to aid with stiffness. I’m not the sharpest driver for sure but I’d say my 997 4S cab was a similar beast to my R8 in handling. Possibly more confidence in the 997 as the rear grip is ridiculous. The 997 cab is not an E46 M3 level of compromise IMO. If you have a Cayman already the 987 will feel very similar. I’d go 997.2 manual if you can for a change.

Thanks, I didn't realise the 997 platform was developed from the Cab first...

It's only the 2WD manual 997.2 Cab I'm looking at but have never driven one (only the coupe).

The Cab is approx. 100kg heavier than the couoe right and maybe that goes against my lightest weight possible ethos.

As in my last post...987.2 Boxster base 2.9 might be the smarter more Poverty end of things....there is that nagging 911 thing though...I'm resigned to ownering both a Coupe and soft top in some form.

I've got another car to lug the kids about so 4 seat Porsche doesn't come into the selection criteria. I digress so another thread may be needed.

[Andyoz]

That's very interesting.

The 987 Boxster platform really is so underrated.

I've decided I won't chase the 986 and concentrate on 987. I know you're a fan of the 2005/06 3.2 Boxster. Is there any difference in engines between those years (pretty sure there isn't as they have the weaker IMS - is that the sealed one that can't be done during a clutch change?)

I think that model and the 2.9 gen 2 are the sweet spots in terms of bang for the buck.

At least there's loads of manuals about unlike bloody 997.2's (which seem to fetch £5k more than the equivalent PDK)

[Andyoz]

Spotted a lovely midnight blue 06 Boxster 3.2 on AutoTrader (private sale) a month ago. I was away so couldn't do anything.

Anyway, appears to have been sold.

Most things I spot sell quickly!

Did any Irish ones here grab that blue 986 Boxster in my earlier posts? I don't care either way, just hope it's gone to a good home

[jakesmith]

Andyoz said:

Thanks, I didn't realise the 997 platform was developed from the Cab first...

You’re welcome, here’s what wiki says about the subject:

Wikipedia said:

For the first time, development of the cabriolet version of the 997 led the design and engineering effort at Porsche with the coupé following. Porsche applied the logic that if you started with the more difficult cabriolet challenges (for chassis stiffness) the coupé version would simply be more rigid. Despite additional weight, the cabriolet versions attain nearly the same performance figures as their coupé counterparts. Even the rear tail comes up slightly higher on the cabriolets to compensate for differences in drag over the canvas top vs. the smoother coupé shape

[Escy]

Oh no, I can see where this thread is going...

It's foolhardy to take on the Pistonheads Forum Fight Champion. It's a battle you just can't win Jake. Even if Ferdinand Piëch came on here and confirmed it.

[ferrisbueller]

The 991 figure may be high. Press info. states 992 coupe is 40kNm/deg, convertible circa 15kNm/deg

[jakesmith]

anonymous said:

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Well, I'm sorry you're so upset about it all - how peculiar.
I'm happy to admit that the cab doesn't have enough torsional stiffness or in fact anything else if you stop ruining this thread like so many others!

[jakesmith]

anonymous said:

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You do seem a little upset I have to say. Very defensive over an extremely mild perceived slight. Not sure why it bothers you so much?
You talk about another forum member having an axe to grind yet almost every time I make a post on this forum, you pop up and disagree. Why not let it drop? I'm sure you're a great guy. It's a little tedious.
Also, it's not the most engaging way to make a point to tell people they are wrong, talking rubbish, bks etc. Most people don't come onto a forum to deliberately mislead others, so no need to castigate them so harshly for posting something that you think is wrong.
Can't you just let it wash over you and be a bit more cheerful / humourous? A de-escalation of some sorts? I'm sure such an approach would be welcomed by many / all. Just a thought

[jakesmith]

Oh come on. This is a bit much isn’t it. Honestly you’re going to have a heart attack if you keep on like this. You seem very agitated. Let’s bury the hatchet and move on. Not worth getting so worked up over is it?

[Escy]

anonymous said:

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Considering Jake simply relayed information he'd read on Wikipedia, this seems like quite a provoking and rude way to made a point. An apology might be in order?

[Escy]

jakesmith said:

Oh come on. This is a bit much isn’t it. Honestly you’re going to have a heart attack if you keep on like this. You seem very agitated. Let’s bury the hatchet and move on. Not worth getting so worked up over is it?

Ding ding, TKO in the 4th.

[LordHaveMurci]

Get a room guys & let's get this great thread back on track.

[ATM]

Andyoz said:

I think ... the 2.9 gen 2 are the sweet spots in terms of bang for the buck.

Yes

If you want the gen 2 engine then definitely yes. Dont forget Chris Harris ran a 2.9 poverty spec cayman and loved it. The 2.9 has about the same power as a 986 3.2 so its a good comparison.

Outright bang for buck you cant beat a 3.2 986 but the 2.9 is newer and that will cost you. Plus there are no known issues or problems with the gen 2 so its a more solid place to put your money.