I've just bought some poverty Pork…

[ATM]

nessiemac said:

ATM said:

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14330337

That's the one I mentioned earlier.

Does this seem like a good buy?

In summary I think this sounds like a good car based on what people have commented. Yes price is toppy but with a reputable rebuild and gearbox and what not it sounds good.

[Smollet]

ATM said:

In summary I think this sounds like a good car based on what people have commented. Yes price is toppy but with a reputable rebuild and gearbox and what not it sounds good.

Tbh I would buy it having found out more about its history. Toppish price wise maybe but not by much I’d hazard a guess. Get it inspected for ease of mind

[Order66]

Smollet said:

Tbh I would buy it having found out more about its history. Toppish price wise maybe but not by much I’d hazard a guess. Get it inspected for ease of mind

Looks like a good car, if I wasn't at the other end of the country, and had space for another toy, I'd be down seeing it.

[markhaines]

nessiemac said:

Looking to join the club maybe.

Got some interest in a 2003 Boxster S.

Looks in overall very good condition and is definitely owned by an enthusiast which is always good to see.

Don't want to link to the advert but photos and description of work done so far below.

Asking price is £9000. Does that sound good or pricy considering all the work it has had done even though it's fairly high miles. (105,000)

Cheers

It looks like a clearly well cared for example, I wouldn't be put of by the miles per-se but there's no getting away from the fact that it will have an impact on the price - £9k is quite strong money for a 986 these days, especially a high mileage one. Have you looked at 987.1 as well as 986? The interior is quite dated on the 986 and the 987 is quite a step up in that regard. For 9k you're getting into 987 territory, albeit you'd need to put a couple more into it to get an S vs a base model.

[nessiemac]

markhaines said:

nessiemac said:

Looking to join the club maybe.

Got some interest in a 2003 Boxster S.

Looks in overall very good condition and is definitely owned by an enthusiast which is always good to see.

Don't want to link to the advert but photos and description of work done so far below.

Asking price is £9000. Does that sound good or pricy considering all the work it has had done even though it's fairly high miles. (105,000)

Cheers

It looks like a clearly well cared for example, I wouldn't be put of by the miles per-se but there's no getting away from the fact that it will have an impact on the price - £9k is quite strong money for a 986 these days, especially a high mileage one. Have you looked at 987.1 as well as 986? The interior is quite dated on the 986 and the 987 is quite a step up in that regard. For 9k you're getting into 987 territory, albeit you'd need to put a couple more into it to get an S vs a base model.

Yeah, I have been looking around at a few 986's and 987's.

The 987's at about £10,000 I have found look ok, but again most have high ish miles at that price and most, apart from service history don't seem to mention much in the way of actual work done over and above servicing.

This one ticks all the boxes for me looks wise and having now got the very very impressive and comprehensive history of every single penny spent (lots!!) that would give me confidence that most issues are already sorted.

[Philvrs]

I’m guessing there’s lacquer peel under the wrap, but will probably fetch good money being an unusual colour.

[ATM]

markhaines said:

It looks like a clearly well cared for example, I wouldn't be put of by the miles per-se but there's no getting away from the fact that it will have an impact on the price - £9k is quite strong money for a 986 these days, especially a high mileage one. Have you looked at 987.1 as well as 986? The interior is quite dated on the 986 and the 987 is quite a step up in that regard. For 9k you're getting into 987 territory, albeit you'd need to put a couple more into it to get an S vs a base model.

Some hardcore 986 fans prefer the 986 to the 987. Dont assume it is better. A 987.2 is another ball game. But the 987.1 has its problems and the engine is not well loved. Have you seen this one for sale for months and months with a Hartech rebuild ... and it is RED?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206287...

[nessiemac]

ATM said:

markhaines said:

It looks like a clearly well cared for example, I wouldn't be put of by the miles per-se but there's no getting away from the fact that it will have an impact on the price - £9k is quite strong money for a 986 these days, especially a high mileage one. Have you looked at 987.1 as well as 986? The interior is quite dated on the 986 and the 987 is quite a step up in that regard. For 9k you're getting into 987 territory, albeit you'd need to put a couple more into it to get an S vs a base model.

Some hardcore 986 fans prefer the 986 to the 987. Dont assume it is better. A 987.2 is another ball game. But the 987.1 has its problems and the engine is not well loved. Have you seen this one for sale for months and months with a Hartech rebuild ... and it is RED?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206287...

I have seen that one, I love red and it is 10 minutes drive away. Thought that was discussed a while back as not that good or am I thinking about something else?

Wonder why it's been on sale for so long.

[ATM]

nessiemac said:

I have seen that one, I love red and it is 10 minutes drive away. Thought that was discussed a while back as not that good or am I thinking about something else?

Wonder why it's been on sale for so long.

If you want a 987.1 then ideally buy a Hartech car. There is currently a choice of one. The only bad news other than general used car concerns is that the Hartech rebuild was only £9100 so probably only 3 of the pistons. If that bothers you then wait for one with all 6 done. If you pay 9900 for the car you are getting a Hartech partially rebuilt engine and the rest of the car for 800 quid.

[RM]

ATM said:

nessiemac said:

I have seen that one, I love red and it is 10 minutes drive away. Thought that was discussed a while back as not that good or am I thinking about something else?

Wonder why it's been on sale for so long.

If you want a 987.1 3.4 then ideally buy a Hartech car. There is currently a choice of one. The only bad news other than general used car concerns is that the Hartech rebuild was only £9100 so probably only 3 of the pistons. If that bothers you then wait for one with all 6 done. If you pay 9900 for the car you are getting a Hartech partially rebuilt engine and the rest of the car for 800 quid.

[roca1976]

I think it also falls into £630 ved which is a bit gutty on a sub £10k car. 986.1 3.2 is half that price to tax. In reality it is only £20 extra a month...

[ATM]

roca1976 said:

I think it also falls into £630 ved which is a bit gutty on a sub £10k car. 986.1 3.2 is half that price to tax. In reality it is only £20 extra a month...

Yeah

You can find some Cayman 3.4 with pre extortionate Road tax but the Boxster came a litte bit later and therefore there are none in the lower bracket - as far as I know - unless you get the 3.2 987.

If you pay by DD it's £661.50 annually. No thanks.

[paulguitar]

ATM said:

roca1976 said:

I think it also falls into £630 ved which is a bit gutty on a sub £10k car. 986.1 3.2 is half that price to tax. In reality it is only £20 extra a month...

Yeah

You can find some Cayman 3.4 with pre extortionate Road tax but the Boxster came a litte bit later and therefore there are none in the lower bracket - as far as I know - unless you get the 3.2 987.

If you pay by DD it's £661.50 annually. No thanks.

Yep, that high tax rate is unacceptable. That's a lot of the reason I sold my Jaguar XK. The same story with those, actually, there were a few produced in 2006 that snuck into the lower tax bracket.

[Speedgelb]

markhaines said:

It looks like a clearly well cared for example, I wouldn't be put of by the miles per-se but there's no getting away from the fact that it will have an impact on the price - £9k is quite strong money for a 986 these days, especially a high mileage one.

Did you miss the bit about the rebuilt engine?

The ad said:

Rebuilt 3.2 engine fitted Jun 22 @ 102k

...and most of the suspension / running gear has been refreshed / overhauled / upgraded?



My 986 S has 140k+ miles. The suspension has 10k miles (Koni Special Active dampers / M030 springs / most arms and bushes), and the engine has 30k miles on it.

If I were to sell, I'd be asking a bit more than a 140k mile car on the original engine and shagged suspension. I'd probably be asking for more than the asking price for cars with half the mileage...

[markhaines]

The ad said:

Rebuilt 3.2 engine fitted Jun 22 @ 102k

Yeah I did to be fair. You're not wrong on the maintenance front. I've spent a good few k on my 2.7 2006 987.1 sorting out all the bits that corrode / go wrong around the 100k mark.

[Speedgelb]

markhaines said:

I've spent a good few k on my 2.7 2006 987.1 sorting out all the bits that corrode / go wrong around the 100k mark.

Also applicable to a lot of cars with lower mileage. Just because the engine is on 'low' miles, doesn't mean other bits are in good nick.



Not advocating somebody go and buy a Boxster with 200k miles on the original engine with fresh suspension (unless the price was really right), but buying a 30k mile garage queen at a premium isn't necessarily a shrewd purchase.

Even the youngest 986 is 19 years old now. Rubbers / bushes deteriorate. Bits and pieces corrode / seize.

A good friend of mine with a low(ish) mile 996 is having a fun time - brake caliper bolts seized into the hub carrier. Droplinks, and all the other bits holding hub carrier in place also seized.

What should have been an easy DIY (changing brakes) now has project creep. The car did only 7k miles in the 10 years before he acquired it, which probably has something to do with it. Nothing worse for these cars than not driving them.

[2Btoo]

markhaines said:

I've spent a good few k on my 2.7 2006 987.1 sorting out all the bits that corrode / go wrong around the 100k mark.

So did I, same car (but Cayman). However a lot is down to how picky you are; I changed the suspension not because it was bad but because I wanted the car to drive as precisely as possible (it's my weakness.) Many/most wouldn't have bothered.

Likewise the coolant pipes at the front. They were rusty but holding on fine. I changed them because I could and because I didn't want them to let go suddenly by the side of the road (do they ever do this? I'm not sure). Most people would have kept their fingers crossed and left them well alone.

[buccal]

nessiemac said:

markhaines said:

nessiemac said:

Looking to join the club maybe.

Got some interest in a 2003 Boxster S.

Looks in overall very good condition and is definitely owned by an enthusiast which is always good to see.

Don't want to link to the advert but photos and description of work done so far below.

Asking price is £9000. Does that sound good or pricy considering all the work it has had done even though it's fairly high miles. (105,000)

Cheers

It looks like a clearly well cared for example, I wouldn't be put of by the miles per-se but there's no getting away from the fact that it will have an impact on the price - £9k is quite strong money for a 986 these days, especially a high mileage one. Have you looked at 987.1 as well as 986? The interior is quite dated on the 986 and the 987 is quite a step up in that regard. For 9k you're getting into 987 territory, albeit you'd need to put a couple more into it to get an S vs a base model.

Yeah, I have been looking around at a few 986's and 987's.

The 987's at about £10,000 I have found look ok, but again most have high ish miles at that price and most, apart from service history don't seem to mention much in the way of actual work done over and above servicing.

This one ticks all the boxes for me looks wise and having now got the very very impressive and comprehensive history of every single penny spent (lots!!) that would give me confidence that most issues are already sorted.

Have you viewed/bought it?

Looks like a well-looked after car

[nessiemac]

buccal said:

Have you viewed/bought it?

Looks like a well-looked after car

He has someone viewing Saturday morning. If still available I’ll view Sunday.

[ATM]

nessiemac said:

buccal said:

Have you viewed/bought it?

Looks like a well-looked after car

He has someone viewing Saturday morning. If still available I’ll view Sunday.

Good cars sell quick.