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rufusgti said:
My local Porsche specialist who worked for Porsche for many years remembers almost brand new 944 convertibles coming in with leaks. They would renew the seals and sometimes entire roofs under warranty and still they would leak. Just poor design I presume.
The Boxster was designed from the outset as a convertible, so seems less prone. Fingers crossed!
pete.g said:
A lot of cars that were not initially designed as convertibles suffer from this, as the conversion always involves compromises. Even some of the modern hard-top convertibles such as the VW EOS have proved to be porous.
The Boxster was designed from the outset as a convertible, so seems less prone. Fingers crossed!
I’ve had 3 Boxsters and a 997. 2 of them had this condensation issue and 2 didn’t. They were all addressed by preventing water ingress The Boxster was designed from the outset as a convertible, so seems less prone. Fingers crossed!
My old 986 was water-tight. It had loads of mechanical issues, maybe OK for its age, but body-work and roof was immaculate. Never leaked, even though I used to drive it under quite heavy rains and snow... When I sold, it was still original roof, would probably need a bit of work cosmetically but no leak issue.
Hi chaps, my first post in this thread so apologies for it being a long one. I picked up a boxster on Saturday for just £920 so thought it would qualify for an entry here.
It's turned out to be even more of a bargain then I thought it was!
I went through the history paperwork that I got with the car and since May 2019 the car has had £5843.51 spent on it, yep you read that right - yet I paid just £920 for it, the mind boggles!
In May 2019 it had a new Alarm Control Unit, New Key fob with blade, all programmed to the car and the existing key programmed to new ACU, done at a Porsche specialist in Dorset - £1224.18
In July 2019, at a Porsche Specialist in Birstall it had, Major Service with plugs - new N/S roof drip pan - rear discs, pads, sensors and dampening discs and handbrake shoes - rear ARB bushes and droplinks - Both PreCAT lambdas - brake light switch - front to rear brake pipes - coil packs and plug tubes - window adjustment - £2319.21
Also in July 2019 at the same place - Front shocks, springs, top mounts, bump stops and stem washers - Rear shocks, top mounts and tuning forks - 4 wheel alignment - £1910.77
In August 2019 at the same place - Replace O/S window regulator and door membrane - £389.35
Some general observations from the drive home and a short journey today...
I really like the car, Boxsters have never been on my radar and I've never really been interested in them but having driven one has really changed my opinion - I'm certainly not going to go out and buy a Porsche branded cap and shirt to wear whilst driving though
As mentioned earlier, it's a fair bit quicker then I'd thought it would be being a 2.5, particularly above about 4k rpm.
All the gears seem really tall, except 5th which seems quite short in comparison!
Other people really do hate Boxsters on the road - the number of people who would refuse to move out of L2 when L1 was empty on dual carriage ways was astonishing, one guy was even waving his arms around in anger!
Good points about the car:
1, It drives really nicely (with 1 or two minor exceptions), like a brand new car really, owing to all the recent suspension work no doubt.
2, Interior is in really good condition, the car came with replacements for any broken parts (new doorcard as 1 doorbin is broken, new visor as 1 is broken, new stereo knobs as they are sticky/worn). Also came with a proper outdoor car cover and a spare remote key.
3, Brakes feel really nice, almost like having the control of no servo assistance but with the lightness of servo assistance.
4, It's really good on fuel!
Bad points:
1, Something isn't right with the gearshift/stick - it's doesn't like to move side to side.
2, Engine doesn't like to idle when cold - it tries to idle too low (below 500rpm) and stalls - holding the revs at 1200rpm for 20 seconds or so will then see it idle ok with a bit of hunting.
3, Something squeaks on startup - sounds like a belt
4, There is a rattle from the front which sounds like an ARB droplink, but I'm not sure it is as it's only present when the car is warm after a long journey - possibly steering arm or track rod end? (Note ARB droplinks are absent from the suspension work above - so probably worth me doing them).
5, There is a little smoke on startup which I already knew about - it is indeed the AOS and I have already bought a new one, just need to find time to replace it!
If any of you can help with any of the 'bad points' listed above I'd be most grateful
It's turned out to be even more of a bargain then I thought it was!
I went through the history paperwork that I got with the car and since May 2019 the car has had £5843.51 spent on it, yep you read that right - yet I paid just £920 for it, the mind boggles!
In May 2019 it had a new Alarm Control Unit, New Key fob with blade, all programmed to the car and the existing key programmed to new ACU, done at a Porsche specialist in Dorset - £1224.18
In July 2019, at a Porsche Specialist in Birstall it had, Major Service with plugs - new N/S roof drip pan - rear discs, pads, sensors and dampening discs and handbrake shoes - rear ARB bushes and droplinks - Both PreCAT lambdas - brake light switch - front to rear brake pipes - coil packs and plug tubes - window adjustment - £2319.21
Also in July 2019 at the same place - Front shocks, springs, top mounts, bump stops and stem washers - Rear shocks, top mounts and tuning forks - 4 wheel alignment - £1910.77
In August 2019 at the same place - Replace O/S window regulator and door membrane - £389.35
Some general observations from the drive home and a short journey today...
I really like the car, Boxsters have never been on my radar and I've never really been interested in them but having driven one has really changed my opinion - I'm certainly not going to go out and buy a Porsche branded cap and shirt to wear whilst driving though
As mentioned earlier, it's a fair bit quicker then I'd thought it would be being a 2.5, particularly above about 4k rpm.
All the gears seem really tall, except 5th which seems quite short in comparison!
Other people really do hate Boxsters on the road - the number of people who would refuse to move out of L2 when L1 was empty on dual carriage ways was astonishing, one guy was even waving his arms around in anger!
Good points about the car:
1, It drives really nicely (with 1 or two minor exceptions), like a brand new car really, owing to all the recent suspension work no doubt.
2, Interior is in really good condition, the car came with replacements for any broken parts (new doorcard as 1 doorbin is broken, new visor as 1 is broken, new stereo knobs as they are sticky/worn). Also came with a proper outdoor car cover and a spare remote key.
3, Brakes feel really nice, almost like having the control of no servo assistance but with the lightness of servo assistance.
4, It's really good on fuel!
Bad points:
1, Something isn't right with the gearshift/stick - it's doesn't like to move side to side.
2, Engine doesn't like to idle when cold - it tries to idle too low (below 500rpm) and stalls - holding the revs at 1200rpm for 20 seconds or so will then see it idle ok with a bit of hunting.
3, Something squeaks on startup - sounds like a belt
4, There is a rattle from the front which sounds like an ARB droplink, but I'm not sure it is as it's only present when the car is warm after a long journey - possibly steering arm or track rod end? (Note ARB droplinks are absent from the suspension work above - so probably worth me doing them).
5, There is a little smoke on startup which I already knew about - it is indeed the AOS and I have already bought a new one, just need to find time to replace it!
If any of you can help with any of the 'bad points' listed above I'd be most grateful
tr7v8 said:
Gearlever will be semi seized cables I'd guess or the bush at the bottom of the gearlever.
Idle will be ICV or idle control valve, pretty common fault, maybe a air leak as well.
Otherwise sounds like a great car, looks like Cobalt blue which is a lovely colour.
Echo this for the gear cables. Albeit 6 speed I did clean up the gearbox fitting end but ended up changing the cable pack. Idle will be ICV or idle control valve, pretty common fault, maybe a air leak as well.
Otherwise sounds like a great car, looks like Cobalt blue which is a lovely colour.
Congrats on buying the most poverty pork that I recall featuring on here
Clearly the seller was given an ultimatum by their partner!
Gear lever likely cables as others have said but I would pull the boot off the gear lever first and have a quick look it's 10 seconds work, a over-tightened short shifter would not return to centre but unlikely that TBH. Gear cables are cheap and have poor fixings on the ends plenty to go wrong there that would cause what you're describing also when mine failed the car was then not drivable so if you rely on the car I would sort that sooner
The sound from below, on my 986 I had a creak over bumps or uneven surface, only when warm, was a coffin arm
Clearly the seller was given an ultimatum by their partner!
Gear lever likely cables as others have said but I would pull the boot off the gear lever first and have a quick look it's 10 seconds work, a over-tightened short shifter would not return to centre but unlikely that TBH. Gear cables are cheap and have poor fixings on the ends plenty to go wrong there that would cause what you're describing also when mine failed the car was then not drivable so if you rely on the car I would sort that sooner
The sound from below, on my 986 I had a creak over bumps or uneven surface, only when warm, was a coffin arm
Firstly - please please double check the roof drains are clear - the bill for an alarm/key etc is because the car has filled with water under the passenger seat due to blocked roof drains, leading to soggy carpet then full on flooding.
Defiitely reccomend removing the centre console (about 5 screws) and inspect the gear linkage and cables at the cab in end - its all plastic/nylon, gets very grubby, and needs to be properly adjusted to work correctly - you can see the serrations on the cable en ds that give you up/down and left/right adjustment.
The gear cables can also be lubed in situ if youy take your time, unclip them as far as the top of the engine where they vanish under the inlet manifold. Not as good as replacement, but helps a lot. You can also get some spray grease on the linkage at the gearbox end, behind the exhaust.
Idle could quite easily be something as simple as a vacuum leak. Check the oil filler cap is fitted properly too in the boot!
Ref the squeak on startup - if you remove the bulkhead panel behind the seats you can start the engine and try identify the source. Hopefull, its the auilliary belt which is a 5 minute job to change. However be warned - the waterpump can also squeak when its towards the end of its life. Its obvious to see with the bulkhead panel off.
Well done on the purchase, you can forgive a lot of niggles when they cost £920.
It also goes to show how much people get absolutely shafted by paying specialists (never mind dealers) to work on these old cars!
Defiitely reccomend removing the centre console (about 5 screws) and inspect the gear linkage and cables at the cab in end - its all plastic/nylon, gets very grubby, and needs to be properly adjusted to work correctly - you can see the serrations on the cable en ds that give you up/down and left/right adjustment.
The gear cables can also be lubed in situ if youy take your time, unclip them as far as the top of the engine where they vanish under the inlet manifold. Not as good as replacement, but helps a lot. You can also get some spray grease on the linkage at the gearbox end, behind the exhaust.
Idle could quite easily be something as simple as a vacuum leak. Check the oil filler cap is fitted properly too in the boot!
Ref the squeak on startup - if you remove the bulkhead panel behind the seats you can start the engine and try identify the source. Hopefull, its the auilliary belt which is a 5 minute job to change. However be warned - the waterpump can also squeak when its towards the end of its life. Its obvious to see with the bulkhead panel off.
Well done on the purchase, you can forgive a lot of niggles when they cost £920.
It also goes to show how much people get absolutely shafted by paying specialists (never mind dealers) to work on these old cars!
Edited by snotrag on Monday 9th December 11:36
Congrats!
Was this a no-reserve auction? Must be some kind of record for a runner with a long MOT, let alone the recent bill of work..
P.s. The start up squeak could be AOS related. Are you going to tackle that yourself? I did one and it was a pig and that was with ambient temps. above 20C.
Was this a no-reserve auction? Must be some kind of record for a runner with a long MOT, let alone the recent bill of work..
P.s. The start up squeak could be AOS related. Are you going to tackle that yourself? I did one and it was a pig and that was with ambient temps. above 20C.
Hi said:
Hi chaps, my first post in this thread so apologies for it being a long one. I picked up a boxster on Saturday for just £920 so thought it would qualify for an entry here.
It's turned out to be even more of a bargain then I thought it was!
I went through the history paperwork that I got with the car and since May 2019 the car has had £5843.51 spent on it, yep you read that right - yet I paid just £920 for it, the mind boggles!
In May 2019 it had a new Alarm Control Unit, New Key fob with blade, all programmed to the car and the existing key programmed to new ACU, done at a Porsche specialist in Dorset - £1224.18
In July 2019, at a Porsche Specialist in Birstall it had, Major Service with plugs - new N/S roof drip pan - rear discs, pads, sensors and dampening discs and handbrake shoes - rear ARB bushes and droplinks - Both PreCAT lambdas - brake light switch - front to rear brake pipes - coil packs and plug tubes - window adjustment - £2319.21
Also in July 2019 at the same place - Front shocks, springs, top mounts, bump stops and stem washers - Rear shocks, top mounts and tuning forks - 4 wheel alignment - £1910.77
In August 2019 at the same place - Replace O/S window regulator and door membrane - £389.35
Some general observations from the drive home and a short journey today...
I really like the car, Boxsters have never been on my radar and I've never really been interested in them but having driven one has really changed my opinion - I'm certainly not going to go out and buy a Porsche branded cap and shirt to wear whilst driving though
As mentioned earlier, it's a fair bit quicker then I'd thought it would be being a 2.5, particularly above about 4k rpm.
All the gears seem really tall, except 5th which seems quite short in comparison!
Other people really do hate Boxsters on the road - the number of people who would refuse to move out of L2 when L1 was empty on dual carriage ways was astonishing, one guy was even waving his arms around in anger!
Good points about the car:
1, It drives really nicely (with 1 or two minor exceptions), like a brand new car really, owing to all the recent suspension work no doubt.
2, Interior is in really good condition, the car came with replacements for any broken parts (new doorcard as 1 doorbin is broken, new visor as 1 is broken, new stereo knobs as they are sticky/worn). Also came with a proper outdoor car cover and a spare remote key.
3, Brakes feel really nice, almost like having the control of no servo assistance but with the lightness of servo assistance.
4, It's really good on fuel!
Bad points:
1, Something isn't right with the gearshift/stick - it's doesn't like to move side to side.
2, Engine doesn't like to idle when cold - it tries to idle too low (below 500rpm) and stalls - holding the revs at 1200rpm for 20 seconds or so will then see it idle ok with a bit of hunting.
3, Something squeaks on startup - sounds like a belt
4, There is a rattle from the front which sounds like an ARB droplink, but I'm not sure it is as it's only present when the car is warm after a long journey - possibly steering arm or track rod end? (Note ARB droplinks are absent from the suspension work above - so probably worth me doing them).
5, There is a little smoke on startup which I already knew about - it is indeed the AOS and I have already bought a new one, just need to find time to replace it!
If any of you can help with any of the 'bad points' listed above I'd be most grateful
Great buy!It's turned out to be even more of a bargain then I thought it was!
I went through the history paperwork that I got with the car and since May 2019 the car has had £5843.51 spent on it, yep you read that right - yet I paid just £920 for it, the mind boggles!
In May 2019 it had a new Alarm Control Unit, New Key fob with blade, all programmed to the car and the existing key programmed to new ACU, done at a Porsche specialist in Dorset - £1224.18
In July 2019, at a Porsche Specialist in Birstall it had, Major Service with plugs - new N/S roof drip pan - rear discs, pads, sensors and dampening discs and handbrake shoes - rear ARB bushes and droplinks - Both PreCAT lambdas - brake light switch - front to rear brake pipes - coil packs and plug tubes - window adjustment - £2319.21
Also in July 2019 at the same place - Front shocks, springs, top mounts, bump stops and stem washers - Rear shocks, top mounts and tuning forks - 4 wheel alignment - £1910.77
In August 2019 at the same place - Replace O/S window regulator and door membrane - £389.35
Some general observations from the drive home and a short journey today...
I really like the car, Boxsters have never been on my radar and I've never really been interested in them but having driven one has really changed my opinion - I'm certainly not going to go out and buy a Porsche branded cap and shirt to wear whilst driving though
As mentioned earlier, it's a fair bit quicker then I'd thought it would be being a 2.5, particularly above about 4k rpm.
All the gears seem really tall, except 5th which seems quite short in comparison!
Other people really do hate Boxsters on the road - the number of people who would refuse to move out of L2 when L1 was empty on dual carriage ways was astonishing, one guy was even waving his arms around in anger!
Good points about the car:
1, It drives really nicely (with 1 or two minor exceptions), like a brand new car really, owing to all the recent suspension work no doubt.
2, Interior is in really good condition, the car came with replacements for any broken parts (new doorcard as 1 doorbin is broken, new visor as 1 is broken, new stereo knobs as they are sticky/worn). Also came with a proper outdoor car cover and a spare remote key.
3, Brakes feel really nice, almost like having the control of no servo assistance but with the lightness of servo assistance.
4, It's really good on fuel!
Bad points:
1, Something isn't right with the gearshift/stick - it's doesn't like to move side to side.
2, Engine doesn't like to idle when cold - it tries to idle too low (below 500rpm) and stalls - holding the revs at 1200rpm for 20 seconds or so will then see it idle ok with a bit of hunting.
3, Something squeaks on startup - sounds like a belt
4, There is a rattle from the front which sounds like an ARB droplink, but I'm not sure it is as it's only present when the car is warm after a long journey - possibly steering arm or track rod end? (Note ARB droplinks are absent from the suspension work above - so probably worth me doing them).
5, There is a little smoke on startup which I already knew about - it is indeed the AOS and I have already bought a new one, just need to find time to replace it!
If any of you can help with any of the 'bad points' listed above I'd be most grateful
Good luck with it and please keep us informed.
Hi said:
4, There is a rattle from the front which sounds like an ARB droplink, but I'm not sure it is as it's only present when the car is warm after a long journey - possibly steering arm or track rod end? (Note ARB droplinks are absent from the suspension work above - so probably worth me doing them).
I fixed that on my 987.1 Cayman S which was the outer ball joint on the front coffin arm where it meets the hub. I think those are the right words to use! I used Miele or whatever they are parts from design 911. jimmsy said:
Hi said:
4, There is a rattle from the front which sounds like an ARB droplink, but I'm not sure it is as it's only present when the car is warm after a long journey - possibly steering arm or track rod end? (Note ARB droplinks are absent from the suspension work above - so probably worth me doing them).
I fixed that on my 987.1 Cayman S which was the outer ball joint on the front coffin arm where it meets the hub. I think those are the right words to use! I used Miele or whatever they are parts from design 911. Hi said:
I really like the car, Boxsters have never been on my radar and I've never really been interested in them but having driven one has really changed my opinion
This is the frustrating thing about Boxsters. The amount of car people I speak to who have an opinion about them but have never driven one really baffles me. It is enough for me to consider them to not be real car people. And by car people I mean a genuine car enthusiast who buys, drives and enjoys cars beyond them just being transport. The original Boxster is a real sweet spot. I've only ever driven 3 and they were all the 3.2s. The first one I ever drove was an experience day at Thruxton. I was amazed at how well the car turned in and gripped compared to the other cars there. It just felt so right out on track. I immediately said to the instructor guy after one or two bends wow this car is great. He said they are the best cars they have because they handle really well straight out of the box and they also deal with being driven round and round their track day in and day out with no problems. I decided there and then I wanted to buy one.Hi said:
Hi chaps, my first post in this thread so apologies for it being a long one. I picked up a boxster on Saturday for just £920 so thought it would qualify for an entry here.
It's turned out to be even more of a bargain then I thought it was!
I went through the history paperwork that I got with the car and since May 2019 the car has had £5843.51 spent on it, yep you read that right - yet I paid just £920 for it, the mind boggles!
In May 2019 it had a new Alarm Control Unit, New Key fob with blade, all programmed to the car and the existing key programmed to new ACU, done at a Porsche specialist in Dorset - £1224.18
In July 2019, at a Porsche Specialist in Birstall it had, Major Service with plugs - new N/S roof drip pan - rear discs, pads, sensors and dampening discs and handbrake shoes - rear ARB bushes and droplinks - Both PreCAT lambdas - brake light switch - front to rear brake pipes - coil packs and plug tubes - window adjustment - £2319.21
Also in July 2019 at the same place - Front shocks, springs, top mounts, bump stops and stem washers - Rear shocks, top mounts and tuning forks - 4 wheel alignment - £1910.77
In August 2019 at the same place - Replace O/S window regulator and door membrane - £389.35
Some general observations from the drive home and a short journey today...
I really like the car, Boxsters have never been on my radar and I've never really been interested in them but having driven one has really changed my opinion - I'm certainly not going to go out and buy a Porsche branded cap and shirt to wear whilst driving though
As mentioned earlier, it's a fair bit quicker then I'd thought it would be being a 2.5, particularly above about 4k rpm.
All the gears seem really tall, except 5th which seems quite short in comparison!
Other people really do hate Boxsters on the road - the number of people who would refuse to move out of L2 when L1 was empty on dual carriage ways was astonishing, one guy was even waving his arms around in anger!
Good points about the car:
1, It drives really nicely (with 1 or two minor exceptions), like a brand new car really, owing to all the recent suspension work no doubt.
2, Interior is in really good condition, the car came with replacements for any broken parts (new doorcard as 1 doorbin is broken, new visor as 1 is broken, new stereo knobs as they are sticky/worn). Also came with a proper outdoor car cover and a spare remote key.
3, Brakes feel really nice, almost like having the control of no servo assistance but with the lightness of servo assistance.
4, It's really good on fuel!
Bad points:
1, Something isn't right with the gearshift/stick - it's doesn't like to move side to side.
2, Engine doesn't like to idle when cold - it tries to idle too low (below 500rpm) and stalls - holding the revs at 1200rpm for 20 seconds or so will then see it idle ok with a bit of hunting.
3, Something squeaks on startup - sounds like a belt
4, There is a rattle from the front which sounds like an ARB droplink, but I'm not sure it is as it's only present when the car is warm after a long journey - possibly steering arm or track rod end? (Note ARB droplinks are absent from the suspension work above - so probably worth me doing them).
5, There is a little smoke on startup which I already knew about - it is indeed the AOS and I have already bought a new one, just need to find time to replace it!
If any of you can help with any of the 'bad points' listed above I'd be most grateful
I have no desire for a convertible, but at that price, and even with the issues described, I would have been very very tempted. Well done.It's turned out to be even more of a bargain then I thought it was!
I went through the history paperwork that I got with the car and since May 2019 the car has had £5843.51 spent on it, yep you read that right - yet I paid just £920 for it, the mind boggles!
In May 2019 it had a new Alarm Control Unit, New Key fob with blade, all programmed to the car and the existing key programmed to new ACU, done at a Porsche specialist in Dorset - £1224.18
In July 2019, at a Porsche Specialist in Birstall it had, Major Service with plugs - new N/S roof drip pan - rear discs, pads, sensors and dampening discs and handbrake shoes - rear ARB bushes and droplinks - Both PreCAT lambdas - brake light switch - front to rear brake pipes - coil packs and plug tubes - window adjustment - £2319.21
Also in July 2019 at the same place - Front shocks, springs, top mounts, bump stops and stem washers - Rear shocks, top mounts and tuning forks - 4 wheel alignment - £1910.77
In August 2019 at the same place - Replace O/S window regulator and door membrane - £389.35
Some general observations from the drive home and a short journey today...
I really like the car, Boxsters have never been on my radar and I've never really been interested in them but having driven one has really changed my opinion - I'm certainly not going to go out and buy a Porsche branded cap and shirt to wear whilst driving though
As mentioned earlier, it's a fair bit quicker then I'd thought it would be being a 2.5, particularly above about 4k rpm.
All the gears seem really tall, except 5th which seems quite short in comparison!
Other people really do hate Boxsters on the road - the number of people who would refuse to move out of L2 when L1 was empty on dual carriage ways was astonishing, one guy was even waving his arms around in anger!
Good points about the car:
1, It drives really nicely (with 1 or two minor exceptions), like a brand new car really, owing to all the recent suspension work no doubt.
2, Interior is in really good condition, the car came with replacements for any broken parts (new doorcard as 1 doorbin is broken, new visor as 1 is broken, new stereo knobs as they are sticky/worn). Also came with a proper outdoor car cover and a spare remote key.
3, Brakes feel really nice, almost like having the control of no servo assistance but with the lightness of servo assistance.
4, It's really good on fuel!
Bad points:
1, Something isn't right with the gearshift/stick - it's doesn't like to move side to side.
2, Engine doesn't like to idle when cold - it tries to idle too low (below 500rpm) and stalls - holding the revs at 1200rpm for 20 seconds or so will then see it idle ok with a bit of hunting.
3, Something squeaks on startup - sounds like a belt
4, There is a rattle from the front which sounds like an ARB droplink, but I'm not sure it is as it's only present when the car is warm after a long journey - possibly steering arm or track rod end? (Note ARB droplinks are absent from the suspension work above - so probably worth me doing them).
5, There is a little smoke on startup which I already knew about - it is indeed the AOS and I have already bought a new one, just need to find time to replace it!
If any of you can help with any of the 'bad points' listed above I'd be most grateful
Off to look at Autotrader and eBay!
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