I've just bought some poverty Pork…

I've just bought some poverty Pork…

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dai1983

2,917 posts

150 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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Found a cheap 2.5 Boxster nearby. Not sure if 2.5* would be enough and it seems suspiciously too cheap if that make sense? £2800 with c.85k.

  • he says in a heavier, auto and 177bhp 2.5 vehicle.

2Btoo

3,431 posts

204 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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anonymous said:
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Cheap and dirty steel liners? Care to share the details?

(If you assume that the cost of removing the engine and dismantling it is the same no matter what sort of repair is done then the steel liners must be practically free if the whole lot is £3k. Trade prices nonetheless).

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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2Btoo said:
anonymous said:
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Cheap and dirty steel liners? Care to share the details?

(If you assume that the cost of removing the engine and dismantling it is the same no matter what sort of repair is done then the steel liners must be practically free if the whole lot is £3k. Trade prices nonetheless).
Stop thinking retail pricing and assume you own a little back street garage and employ a mechanic. The costs of labour then are almost free if you have no paying customer jobs. So if you can turn around a Cayman and make a few grand then you're good. It's not all profit but it keeps the lights on at the very least.

HokumPokum

2,051 posts

206 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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I think with the 3.9 re-built engine at 15k, you would also be looking at shifter, seats suspension and brakes. If I can start from a clean shell at 5k, i think you still need to chuck another 10k in. But what a hot rod at the end of it. I do agree that styling wise the gen 2 is better.
Cmoose have you tried the 3.9? How does it rev? I don't think I will be able to resist if I find a clean cayman. Does this 3.9 work from a 2.7 car?


HokumPokum

2,051 posts

206 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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does the 3.9 solution work on a base 2006 cayman or it needs to be cayman S? I would be ditching the suspension and brakes anyway..

HokumPokum

2,051 posts

206 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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Tx. I'll be looking out for a non-runner then.

ooid

4,111 posts

101 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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The highest mileage gen 2 boxster I've ever seen so far!

173k miles!
Espanol (Manuel, lol)
£8,995

One owner!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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ooid said:
The highest mileage gen 2 boxster I've ever seen so far!

173k miles!
Espanol (Manuel, lol)
£8,995

One owner!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...
Very nice

Stealthy colour scheme and very few options

I'd prefer to buy that and replace the lump with an OEM 3.8 gen 2 engine which would probably work out cheaper than your 3.9 conversion.

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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anonymous said:
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According to Parkers yes it is

https://www.parkers.co.uk/porsche/boxster/roadster...

Andyoz

2,889 posts

55 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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ooid said:
The highest mileage gen 2 boxster I've ever seen so far!

173k miles!
Espanol (Manuel, lol)
£8,995

One owner!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...
Midnight Blue is nice. Don't see many that color?

Bullet-Proof_Biscuit

1,058 posts

78 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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https://lnengineering.com/products/watercooled-cyl...

Bargain!!

Edit; That particular link doesn't include pistons & rings ffs

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Bullet-Proof_Biscuit said:
https://lnengineering.com/products/watercooled-cyl...

Bargain!!

Edit; That particular link doesn't include pistons & rings ffs
Surely if your old pistons are fine then you can just get the block sleeved back to original size and reuse them. New rings or reuse - not an expert but if cheap buy new.

LordHaveMurci

12,046 posts

170 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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anonymous said:
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Bargain rofl

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Mapping is a none issue. You could just use the standard map from the donor car. It feels to me like you're trying to persuade yourself to go with the 3.9 which is fine. I've seen 3.8 gen 2 engines going for 6 grand so I'm struggling to see how you can't make that work. Don't forget you still have the option of buying an OEM 3.4 gen 2 car too.

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Re mapping

I'm assuming you can use the map from the factory 3.8 brain or even swap the brain itself with the one from the donor car.

When my friend plugged in his snap on ECU reader to my 981 it came back as a 991 so I'm assuming they use the same brain across the various cars. Therefore I'd be hopeful - maybe over simplifying - to just plug in the engine harness from the 3.8 to the car and plug in the brain too from the 3.8 and that's that. Plug and Play if you will.

Escy

3,943 posts

150 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Are you seriously suggesting buying a 15k cayman and then spending 15k getting an engine rebuild?

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Escy said:
Are you seriously suggesting buying a 15k cayman and then spending 15k getting an engine rebuild?
He wants to buy a cheap Cayman which needs an engine rebuild so £5 grand has been mentioned. Then spend 15k on a full blown 3.9 all the bells and whistles rebuild / conversion.

Escy

3,943 posts

150 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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He said source a gen 2 with no issues and sent it for a rebuild. I'm guessing that's more than a 15k car to start with.

I can't help thinking the big capacity conversion might be getting built up in your mind to be better than the reality. These type of conversions provide you with extra torque at the expense of revs. Headline power tends to be similar. Sod that for 15k

2Btoo

3,431 posts

204 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Escy said:
He said source a gen 2 with no issues and sent it for a rebuild. I'm guessing that's more than a 15k car to start with.
In fairness, I think he's suggesting a Gen2 car and sending it for an engine swap. There would be value in the engine that was removed so he would get some money back there. However your overall point is one that's been puzzling me too; I can see the logic in buying a scored Gen1 and rebuilding it (via Hartech or elsewhere) to something bigger and beefier but not if you are starting with a Gen2 car. And getting a (bigger, more reliable) Gen2 engine to work in a Gen1 car is a lot of work, as has been said. (Which is a shame, because this would be a good idea otherwise).

ferrisbueller

29,344 posts

228 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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anonymous said:
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scratchchin