I've just bought some poverty Pork…

I've just bought some poverty Pork…

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WojaWabbit

1,112 posts

219 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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WojaWabbit said:
Low mileage 986 2.7 is making decent dough on Collecting Cars...

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2001-porsche-9...
Unsold - I'm unsure what it reached but I noted it went >£8500 with a few hours to go.

pete.g

1,527 posts

207 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Mine has similar mileage, but a lesser spec and not as comprehensive a history.

I paid just under £8k in November.

Very happy so far - have added 800 miles and will probably end up doing 3-4k a year for a few years and then see what I fancy next.

Not a collector car, but so far a very usable modern classic.

The car didn't sell, so the vendor must have set his reserve quite high.


edc

9,238 posts

252 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Don't know what the fees are but £8.5k for a private sale on a 2.7 isn't bad going at all.

kingroon

94 posts

127 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Merp said:
Seems good value, 80k Miles
Nice colour combo.

I met Harry on Sunday, he's a mate of a mate.. Seemed like a good enough chap..

Was talking to him mostly about his 996 he has for sale [in the background of one of those photos]..

austin

1,284 posts

204 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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So i've taken the brave pills and bought this:



£2,500.

2.5 986 (110,000 miles and some good history) with a 987 hood and what appears to be a (fairly hideous) aftermarket rear spoiler.

Problems were that the electrics were going mad, (leak in the roof, carpet soaking wet and flooded the box under passenger seat). Carpets are still out as I can't find the bloody leak so have to park it pointing up hill if it rains so it can all drain out the back of the passenger side drain at the back.

New rear tyres as the old ones were very low and it was very hairy in the wet.

Exhaust rattles a bit and "drones" at lower RPMs.

Got some creaks and rattles but over all not to bad.

Goes and sounds lovely though.

Only bought it while my other car is being rebuilt, (by myself) but starting to enjoy this far to much.

austin

1,284 posts

204 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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Thanks for the clarification around the hood, I thought as it had a glass rear screen it was a later (987) one.

I know about the elastic trick, just waiting for it to stop bloody raining so I can do it! Dread to think how you got to find out...

The leak is driving me nuts, cleared the drains, checked the tray etc etc but it still gets wet. Next trick was going to be a cheap endoscope while using a squirter to pour water on in specific places.

V8fan

6,308 posts

269 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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The rear glass screen came with the facelift in 2002. But it will fit the first models, and the heated rear window wiring is usually already there because of the possibility of fitting the hard top.

Because the hood has been replaced, there may be an issue in alignment somewhere. frown

Edited by V8fan on Wednesday 5th February 18:33

Mogul

2,934 posts

224 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Looks great! Any more pics from the rear?

With the early 2.5 986, there was no headlining.

That was addressed by the time that the 2.7 came out but the real change was when the facelifted 986 came out for 2003 as there was a new frame mechanism with 4 vs. 3 ribs as the original soft rear window was too big to fold if they replicated it in glass so they went with a shallower rear glass window which required an extra bar.

Enjoy it!

ooid

4,112 posts

101 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Mogul said:
With the early 2.5 986, there was no headlining.

That was addressed by the time that the 2.7 came out but the real change was when the facelifted 986 came out for 2003 as there was a new frame mechanism with 4 vs. 3 ribs as the original soft rear window was too big to fold if they replicated it in glass so they went with a shallower rear glass window which required an extra bar.
Some hard-core 986 deep-knowledge there!! thumbup

bgunn

1,417 posts

132 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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The original 2.7 didn't have a headlining either wink (I know, I had one).

The headliner as standard came with the glass rear window and the facelift.

Mogul

2,934 posts

224 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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My 2002 2.7 had the headlining (soft touch switches and electric boot/trunk release) but I think you are correct in that the earlier 2.7 models didn’t. :-)

mattman

3,176 posts

223 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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austin said:
Thanks for the clarification around the hood, I thought as it had a glass rear screen it was a later (987) one.

I know about the elastic trick, just waiting for it to stop bloody raining so I can do it! Dread to think how you got to find out...

The leak is driving me nuts, cleared the drains, checked the tray etc etc but it still gets wet. Next trick was going to be a cheap endoscope while using a squirter to pour water on in specific places.
Have you checked the membranes in the doors, maybe getting in there if they have deteriorated?

NelsonM3

1,687 posts

172 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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austin said:
anonymous said:
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Thanks for the clarification around the hood, I thought as it had a glass rear screen it was a later (987) one.

I know about the elastic trick, just waiting for it to stop bloody raining so I can do it! Dread to think how you got to find out...

The leak is driving me nuts, cleared the drains, checked the tray etc etc but it still gets wet. Next trick was going to be a cheap endoscope while using a squirter to pour water on in specific places.
Currently having the same on my 2001 986. It’s looks to be coming into the off side rear (carpet damp) but drains are all clear. I’ve owned the car for over two years now and it’s definitely not historical. It’s also not coming from the door membranes.

One of our Techs suggested it may be the foam membrane underneath the hood cover which can start to degrade. I’ve taken the car off the road now and going to chuck the hardtop back on the E46 M3 so I can chuck it back in the garage. When the weathers a bit nicer I’ll remove the seats and do some water testing.

austin

1,284 posts

204 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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mattman said:
Have you checked the membranes in the doors, maybe getting in there if they have deteriorated?
The bottom of the door cards are dry so assuming (for now) that it's not that. By membrane do you mean the rubber seal around the door? If so that all looks OK.

I was amazed by the amount of water that was "held" in by the lovely sound proofing "sponge" they handily put under the carpet. I could barely lift the carpet out of the car it was so heavy. If you've got a damp carpet I'd get it out ASAP before the water / damp starts corroding the electrics which are handily placed at the lowest point of the interior. Mine started going a bit bonkers with the fuel filler lock going constantly. Failry easy to take out and get apart and cleaned and dried it all out and out back together and properly sealed the box up with silicone.

edc

9,238 posts

252 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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NelsonM3 said:
Currently having the same on my 2001 986. It’s looks to be coming into the off side rear (carpet damp) but drains are all clear. I’ve owned the car for over two years now and it’s definitely not historical. It’s also not coming from the door membranes.

One of our Techs suggested it may be the foam membrane underneath the hood cover which can start to degrade. I’ve taken the car off the road now and going to chuck the hardtop back on the E46 M3 so I can chuck it back in the garage. When the weathers a bit nicer I’ll remove the seats and do some water testing.
Check for holes in foam drip tray and also that you have the plastic guard on the rear deck arm on that side attached properly.

ATM

18,302 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
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austin said:
By membrane do you mean the rubber seal around the door?
No

If you take the door panel off then there is a membrane which is glued to the door. This effectively keeps the outside out. If this is damaged or not glued properly then the outside can get in.

Google pic


austin

1,284 posts

204 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
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Thanks all, looks like I have some more things to look at / sort out.

Guessing that the foam liner is a pain to replace though, (roof off job?)

Escy

3,943 posts

150 months

Thursday 6th February 2020
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It is a roof off job but removing the roof is actually quite straightforward unlike most convertibles. Pretty much a case of a few bolts each side and lift it up.

Andyoz

2,889 posts

55 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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No idea if it's a bargain but the seller deserves some credit for entertainment value alone smile

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402070708353

TROOPER88

1,767 posts

180 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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austin said:
The bottom of the door cards are dry so assuming (for now) that it's not that. By membrane do you mean the rubber seal around the door? If so that all looks OK.

I was amazed by the amount of water that was "held" in by the lovely sound proofing "sponge" they handily put under the carpet. I could barely lift the carpet out of the car it was so heavy. If you've got a damp carpet I'd get it out ASAP before the water / damp starts corroding the electrics which are handily placed at the lowest point of the interior. Mine started going a bit bonkers with the fuel filler lock going constantly. Failry easy to take out and get apart and cleaned and dried it all out and out back together and properly sealed the box up with silicone.
Hi Austin
The foam you talk about is part of the carpet.

You need to try and get the worst of the water out with a wet hoover and then hand the carpet in an airing cupboard or similar.

I would guess that one of your rear roof connecting rods has snapped and the rod has now punctured the drip tray.

I did one last week where this was exactly what had happened. To remove the drip tray the roof has to be removed, 3 13mm bolts and the connecting rod each side. I also replaced the foam underneath this and to do this you have to move the roll over bars out of the way.

Paul