I've just bought some poverty Pork…

[ATM]

danp said:

ATM said:

Didn't someone post a link to classic car site listing of a Cayman s with hartech rebuild for 12?

I didn’t post it but this was it:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1213258

Seems like a slam dunk buy to me if you want a gen 1. Maybe if you can actually rebuild an engine yourself the tapping one makes sense. Otherwise this is still tempting.

2009
Gen 2
3.4
PDK
217000 miles

11995

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224022837700

[shalmaneser]

danp said:

ATM said:

Didn't someone post a link to classic car site listing of a Cayman s with hartech rebuild for 12?

I didn’t post it but this was it:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1213258

Looks like a great deal to me.

[ATM]

anonymous said:

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I don't understand the fascination with low miles. Everyone says really low miles can be troublesome and well used is better. Surely this qualifies as well used. No worries about bore scoring. I can see some value here.

[ooid]

Especially if it's chain driven, after 150k , many cars (even japs) would be slightly knackered, mechanically at least.
(Say your engine oil pressure drops, tensioner can fail and break the whole chain, boom!)

[ATM]

We've all seen 9x7 cars with engine rebuilds or replacement as low as 30000. So why is 80000 ok. We all know the gen 1 engine has various design flaws and weak points. I'd feel more confident in the gen 2 engine on 200k as there isnt even any internet rumours about them yet and they're over 10 years old now. A regularly used well built engine running on good oil at average load shouldn't see much wear. A lower mileage car which is ragged a lot from cold frequently will see more wear.

[danp]

ATM said:

We've all seen 9x7 cars with engine rebuilds or replacement as low as 30000. So why is 80000 ok. We all know the gen 1 engine has various design flaws and weak points. I'd feel more confident in the gen 2 engine on 200k as there isnt even any internet rumours about them yet and they're over 10 years old now. A regularly used well built engine running on good oil at average load shouldn't see much wear. A lower mileage car which is ragged a lot from cold frequently will see more wear.

From a quick look on trader a gen2 with a mere 106k miles is up for £14k, even if it was 100% engine wise IMHO you’d struggle to ever sell it again for reasonable money, rightly or wrongly people are just too averse to big miles unless it’s mega cheap.

[ATM]

anonymous said:

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I'm happy to stand aside and let someone else buy it and let us know.

[Baked_bean]

My biggest issue with buying a high mileage car is selling it on, I chop and change a lot and the extra time and messing about is a turn off.

I had a Z4 3.0 coupe on 140k miles about 4 years ago and it took ages to sell.....with people giving silly bids like it was doing me a favour.

[ATM]

Baked_bean said:

My biggest issue with buying a high mileage car is selling it on, I chop and change a lot and the extra time and messing about is a turn off.

I had a Z4 3.0 coupe on 140k miles about 4 years ago and it took ages to sell.....with people giving silly bids like it was doing me a favour.

I thought this was standard with all car selling?

If the car is lower mileage do nice people turn up to buy it and say thanks a lot?

[shalmaneser]

Baked_bean said:

My biggest issue with buying a high mileage car is selling it on, I chop and change a lot and the extra time and messing about is a turn off.

I had a Z4 3.0 coupe on 140k miles about 4 years ago and it took ages to sell.....with people giving silly bids like it was doing me a favour.

Agreed, it's the reason I went for a low miles 996 - selling my old E36 M3 with 160k miles on it was a nightmare. I only do 7k or so a year but on a car with 100k+ on it soon you start to get into numbers that scare off a lot of buyers. That 200k car will be basically impossible to shift I reckon. Does mean it might be a bargain for someone if it's been sat on the motorway for 95% of it's life and they intend it to be a keeper.

[Speedgelb]

Baked_bean said:

I had a Z4 3.0 coupe on 140k miles about 4 years ago and it took ages to sell.....with people giving silly bids like it was doing me a favour.

Did it sell in the end, for a 'reasonable' price (and what would that be for a Z4)?

Think the platform can make a difference - FB, eBay, gumtree, and to a certain extent dedicated platforms can attract the "£2k cash today bruv" brigade. Not saying miles don't make a difference, but if a car has good provenance and has clearly been looked after - good SH, 'premium' tyres, has had suspension / drivetrain overhaul - an enthusiast wouldn't look past it, if it was 'high miles', but sensibly priced.

What car would you go for out of these:
1. One that has done 80k, but original suspension, clutch, etc at say £6.5k
2. One one circa 120k miles, but with a recent (past 10k) clutch / flywheel, some suspension work, and a load of preventative maintenance, priced at say £5,800

This is assuming the car will actually be driven - ie >7k miles a year.

[ATM]

Speedgelb said:

Baked_bean said:

I had a Z4 3.0 coupe on 140k miles about 4 years ago and it took ages to sell.....with people giving silly bids like it was doing me a favour.

Did it sell in the end, for a 'reasonable' price (and what would that be for a Z4)?

Think the platform can make a difference - FB, eBay, gumtree, and to a certain extent dedicated platforms can attract the "£2k cash today bruv" brigade. Not saying miles don't make a difference, but if a car has good provenance and has clearly been looked after - good SH, 'premium' tyres, has had suspension / drivetrain overhaul - an enthusiast wouldn't look past it, if it was 'high miles', but sensibly priced.

What car would you go for out of these:
1. One that has done 80k, but original suspension, clutch, etc at say £6.5k
2. One one circa 120k miles, but with a recent (past 10k) clutch / flywheel, some suspension work, and a load of preventative maintenance, priced at say £5,800

This is assuming the car will actually be driven - ie >7k miles a year.

clutch / flywheel, some suspension work, and a load of preventative maintenance

this lot would cost you 2000 so number 2 clear winner

[nickpan]

Baked_bean said:

My biggest issue with buying a high mileage car is selling it on, I chop and change a lot and the extra time and messing about is a turn off.

I had a Z4 3.0 coupe on 140k miles about 4 years ago and it took ages to sell.....with people giving silly bids like it was doing me a favour.

How does the Z4 compare to a bit of cheap pork?
I’m deliberating between the two. I’ve had the 6 cylinder lump in a 130i and it seemed better suited to wafting over hooning. Too smooth and linear.

[Speedgelb]

ATM said:

clutch / flywheel, some suspension work, and a load of preventative maintenance

this lot would cost you 2000 so number 2 clear winner

And if there was no price delta between the two, or if the higher mileage car was a couple of hundred more?

[richardxjr]

1st week of ownership so a morning at Goodwood to get to know my 18yo floozie

[Baked_bean]

nickpan said:

How does the Z4 compare to a bit of cheap pork?
I’m deliberating between the two. I’ve had the 6 cylinder lump in a 130i and it seemed better suited to wafting over hooning. Too smooth and linear.

In answer to a few questions;

It does seem to be that selling a car privately is becoming less pleasant but I have sold all my cars (25 cars) upon first viewing, bar one...it was just a large amount of people telling me it was high mileage as if I didn’t realise!

I did sell it for a reasonable price in the end, it actually drove really well and had lots spent on it.

Regarding the z4 versus some pork, The steering and generally ride don’t hold a candle to a Porsche imo.... N52/3 engine in the 3.0Si is a peach and revs put really well but is really smooth and tractable when needed. I have considered a Z4M coupe as I believe that would address my issues but I couldn’t justify the price currently.

[Bluedot]

richardxjr said:

1st week of ownership so a morning at Goodwood to get to know my 18yo floozie

I never even realised they'd opened the track up again
Do you know if the canteen was open for takeaway tea/coffee etc ? There's a track day there today so I might pop in, will make a nice change from garden centres.

[richardxjr]

Yes, the outside catering van. There's a marshal at the front gate so don't think they're letting non driving visitors in?

[Bluedot]

richardxjr said:

Yes, the outside catering van. There's a marshal at the front gate so don't think they're letting non driving visitors in?

Yeah, had a drive passed earlier and saw the marshal, didn't bother stopping to ask. just guessed that it wasn't open to non-participants.

[Bullet-Proof_Biscuit]

Would love to visit Goodwood one day, the classic revival always seemed a bit 'posh' for the sort of thing I'm into, I'm more of a 'run wot u brung' type event attendee. Maybe we should organise a thing and do a thing..

I'm other news I've sold the melty edition 997 and will soon be in the market for a galactic miler 987 croc with ideally smokey engine and dubious service history and try and daily drive it. (I should probably make a YT channel lol)

Beers! Well, cheap red wine!

HH