I've just bought some poverty Pork…

I've just bought some poverty Pork…

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hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Shame seller hasn't stated his background and so demonstrated his qualifications to rebuild it himself.

Bullet-Proof_Biscuit

1,058 posts

77 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Where did you find the bad croc? Look forward to updates and rebuild pics etc...

shalmaneser

5,935 posts

195 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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anonymous said:
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Exactly! What a nutter. 3k tops

barryrs

4,391 posts

223 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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barryrs said:
Having been a fairly regular visitor to this topic I have also taken the plunge and purchased a poverty Porsche.

It’s a 98 car sporting quite a few miles and has a few issues to address.

Discs and pads all round are poor.
Loads of tread on the tyres as they have done very few miles but showing age related cracking.
Stereo not working but turned out to be a fuse.
Drivers door dropped but just a loose bolt on the hinge.
AC is just cool rather than cold.
Rear spoiler rubber curtain split.
Quite a few dings and chips but at 22 years old nothing that can’t be forgiven.



All for less than £9k smile

Spent the last few days on eBay and have some discs and replacement spoiler curtain on the way. Most importantly is a service when I’m able to get it booked in.
Quoting myself as the last month or so has consisted of.

New A/C condensers, just needs to be recharged.
Refurb of all 3 rad brackets
All arch liners out and cleaned up (get those rears out if you haven’t already)
Some subtle front stone guards fitted
New discs and pads
New flexi pipes
New Caliper brake pipes
New wear sensors
Callipers refurbed in gloss black with new Porsche logos. Caliper removal was challenging with 1 snapped bolt so 4 new ordered.
New coil pack covers
New rear ARB resulting in 2 snapped bolts!

Took her out last night and was really pleased with the performance.

Decided the rear brakes can wait a little longer after the hassle of the fronts.



Bullet-Proof_Biscuit

1,058 posts

77 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Nice early one with the best wheels imho.
Have you checked the state of the exhaust flanges and fixings?
Engine mounts might be due at that age.
Non sunroof model I take it, and no rear wiper?
Beers

barryrs

4,391 posts

223 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Bullet-Proof_Biscuit said:
Nice early one with the best wheels imho.
Have you checked the state of the exhaust flanges and fixings?
Engine mounts might be due at that age.
Non sunroof model I take it, and no rear wiper?
Beers
Manifolds are in a state which is to be expected; however when working on it I did discover the stainless rear silencers are some pricey Fabspeed numbers and all brackets are good.

Suspension isn’t as bad as I first feared so I think an overhaul of all bushes and mounts can wait till next year.

No sunroof but it does have a rear wiper.

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Dimebars said:
ooid said:
If you do not mind Auto (Tip), and can trust the owner's mechanical skills, this could be a nice weekend car without any hassle. I'm sure it could be around 5k? The owner claims he has rebuilt the engine himself.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...


Six bags seems a bit rich for a DIY-rebuilt car
I am glad it’s not just me! Plenty of people have more detailed knowledge of the cars and the market than me but it’s:
- a 2.5 (least desirable engine)
- it’s a tiptronic (least desirable gearbox by a long way)
- it’s been rebuilt (and we know nothing about the competence of the person doing it)

It’s way toppy for me. Admittedly it is low mileage, as if that is relevant on a car that’s had an engine rebuild, but there is the choice of 40 cars, of all engine sizes and gearbox types, on autotrader for less than 6k.

Andyoz

2,888 posts

54 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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barryrs said:
barryrs said:
Having been a fairly regular visitor to this topic I have also taken the plunge and purchased a poverty Porsche.

It’s a 98 car sporting quite a few miles and has a few issues to address.

Discs and pads all round are poor.
Loads of tread on the tyres as they have done very few miles but showing age related cracking.
Stereo not working but turned out to be a fuse.
Drivers door dropped but just a loose bolt on the hinge.
AC is just cool rather than cold.
Rear spoiler rubber curtain split.
Quite a few dings and chips but at 22 years old nothing that can’t be forgiven.



All for less than £9k smile

Spent the last few days on eBay and have some discs and replacement spoiler curtain on the way. Most importantly is a service when I’m able to get it booked in.
Quoting myself as the last month or so has consisted of.

New A/C condensers, just needs to be recharged.
Refurb of all 3 rad brackets
All arch liners out and cleaned up (get those rears out if you haven’t already)
Some subtle front stone guards fitted
New discs and pads
New flexi pipes
New Caliper brake pipes
New wear sensors
Callipers refurbed in gloss black with new Porsche logos. Caliper removal was challenging with 1 snapped bolt so 4 new ordered.
New coil pack covers
New rear ARB resulting in 2 snapped bolts!

Took her out last night and was really pleased with the performance.

Decided the rear brakes can wait a little longer after the hassle of the fronts.
Blimey, how did the caliper bolt snap. They are chunky things?

I've had issues with anti-vibration shims rusted/seized into pistons on front calipers.

ATM

18,295 posts

219 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Andyoz said:
barryrs said:
barryrs said:
Having been a fairly regular visitor to this topic I have also taken the plunge and purchased a poverty Porsche.

It’s a 98 car sporting quite a few miles and has a few issues to address.

Discs and pads all round are poor.
Loads of tread on the tyres as they have done very few miles but showing age related cracking.
Stereo not working but turned out to be a fuse.
Drivers door dropped but just a loose bolt on the hinge.
AC is just cool rather than cold.
Rear spoiler rubber curtain split.
Quite a few dings and chips but at 22 years old nothing that can’t be forgiven.



All for less than £9k smile

Spent the last few days on eBay and have some discs and replacement spoiler curtain on the way. Most importantly is a service when I’m able to get it booked in.
Quoting myself as the last month or so has consisted of.

New A/C condensers, just needs to be recharged.
Refurb of all 3 rad brackets
All arch liners out and cleaned up (get those rears out if you haven’t already)
Some subtle front stone guards fitted
New discs and pads
New flexi pipes
New Caliper brake pipes
New wear sensors
Callipers refurbed in gloss black with new Porsche logos. Caliper removal was challenging with 1 snapped bolt so 4 new ordered.
New coil pack covers
New rear ARB resulting in 2 snapped bolts!

Took her out last night and was really pleased with the performance.

Decided the rear brakes can wait a little longer after the hassle of the fronts.
Blimey, how did the caliper bolt snap. They are chunky things?

I've had issues with anti-vibration shims rusted/seized into pistons on front calipers.
My mate snapped a couple on his cayenne so I think its standard practice for these. On some of these cars the caliper can stay bolted up when you change the pads right so is it possible these bolts have been in for 20 years now? Did Porsche use lock tight (glue) on them too?

Escy

3,939 posts

149 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Steel bolts in aluminium hubs, galvanic corrosion.

barryrs

4,391 posts

223 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Combination of all of the above I think.

The bolts were covered in a green coating which looked like overzealous use of thread loc.

Bullet-Proof_Biscuit

1,058 posts

77 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Mine were soaked in copper grease when I had them out, had a feeling they should be torqued dry but at least they came out easy (and not on their own..)

shalmaneser

5,935 posts

195 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Escy said:
Steel bolts in aluminium hubs, galvanic corrosion.
This is what happens. Copper grease can make this worse apparently. I was lucky and all mine came out fine but I put some heavy waterproof grease on them when I put them back in.

ATM

18,295 posts

219 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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shalmaneser said:
Escy said:
Steel bolts in aluminium hubs, galvanic corrosion.
This is what happens. Copper grease can make this worse apparently. I was lucky and all mine came out fine but I put some heavy waterproof grease on them when I put them back in.
I've heard that about the copper grease too. Is there another grease we should use which is silver - cant remember now?

Philvrs

538 posts

97 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Was it optimol TA paste?

Andyoz

2,888 posts

54 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Seems like a minefield working on these circa 15 year old cars.

My brake and disc change two weeks ago was all going smoothly until finding that the shims were rusted into the pistons. I managed to extract two of the four but the remaining two have triggered buying two new pistons. I hadn't planned on doing a partial caliper rebuild when I started all this!



Edited by Andyoz on Tuesday 7th July 12:56

Andyoz

2,888 posts

54 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Philvrs said:
Was it optimol TA paste?
It's made by Castrol. The Optimol range is referenced alot in the Porsche Service manual. It's been rebranded as 'Molub-Alloy Paste TA' now.

shalmaneser

5,935 posts

195 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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ATM said:
shalmaneser said:
Escy said:
Steel bolts in aluminium hubs, galvanic corrosion.
This is what happens. Copper grease can make this worse apparently. I was lucky and all mine came out fine but I put some heavy waterproof grease on them when I put them back in.
I've heard that about the copper grease too. Is there another grease we should use which is silver - cant remember now?
Aluminium anti seize is pretty widely available and is the one to use really.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-SCS103-Aluminium-A...

barryrs

4,391 posts

223 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Andyoz said:
Seems like a minefield working on these circa 15 year old cars.

My brake and disc change two weeks ago was all going smoothly until finding that the shims were rusted into the pistons. I managed to extract two of the four but the remaining two have triggered buying two new pistons. I hadn't planned on doing a partial caliper rebuild when I started all this!



Edited by Andyoz on Tuesday 7th July 12:56
Ouch!

Mine were in good nick and came out really easily; so much so I didn’t consider changing them.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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My mate has just bought a 997S Tip for £13k! Not the one to have I know but impressively cheap. Hope it doesn't bite him. Off to Northway for a serice as we speak. Got some nice features like colour coded console & alcatara headlining. He's a trader & got it as a PX from a main dealer friend.