I've just bought some poverty Pork…

[Bullet-Proof_Biscuit]

jakesmith said:

My mate has just bought a 997S Tip for £13k! Not the one to have I know but impressively cheap. Hope it doesn't bite him. Off to Northway for a serice as we speak. Got some nice features like colour coded console & alcatara headlining. He's a trader & got it as a PX from a main dealer friend.

Definitely mostly worth checking the bores!

[jakesmith]

Bullet-Proof_Biscuit said:

jakesmith said:

My mate has just bought a 997S Tip for £13k! Not the one to have I know but impressively cheap. Hope it doesn't bite him. Off to Northway for a serice as we speak. Got some nice features like colour coded console & alcatara headlining. He's a trader & got it as a PX from a main dealer friend.

Definitely mostly worth checking the bores!

Or, alternatively, the last thing he’d want to know!

[Andyoz]

jakesmith said:

My mate has just bought a 997S Tip for £13k! Not the one to have I know but impressively cheap. Hope it doesn't bite him. Off to Northway for a serice as we speak. Got some nice features like colour coded console & alcatara headlining. He's a trader & got it as a PX from a main dealer friend.

Yeah, just drive and enjoy?

[ATM]

Unique in Bolton 10k rebuild
Car now in auction reserve not met

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333646666186

[youngsyr]

Andyoz said:

jakesmith said:

My mate has just bought a 997S Tip for £13k! Not the one to have I know but impressively cheap. Hope it doesn't bite him. Off to Northway for a serice as we speak. Got some nice features like colour coded console & alcatara headlining. He's a trader & got it as a PX from a main dealer friend.

Yeah, just drive and enjoy?

Isn't the 997.1 S the most prone model for engine issues?

It's a great headline price, but it comes with the baggage of wondering if/when the engine will let go.

[youngsyr]

ATM said:

Unique in Bolton 10k rebuild
Car now in auction reserve not met

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333646666186

That's a very interesting car to set the bench mark, that has to be around £25k pre Covid, wouldn't you say?

[ATM]

youngsyr said:

ATM said:

Unique in Bolton 10k rebuild
Car now in auction reserve not met

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333646666186

That's a very interesting car to set the bench mark, that has to be around £25k pre Covid, wouldn't you say?

Not sure covid has really affected values personally. Lets see what happens with this one.

[lost in espace]

I spotted this lovely 987.1 non S on boxa.net up for sale from a very respected member. Lowered on H&R sport springs maybe a little too low and harsh, Carnewall cats and exhaust, spacers. It is bloody lovely, full history. So nice to get back into some Pork after 10 years, my last was a 986S and this feels faster. Being a 5 speed, with the 2.7 I am hoping to be problem free-ish, and it is big bearing. Just had the major service, and it is coming up as worth more on WBAC than I paid thanks to the pandemic. Guy I bought it off bought a nicer car though, 1957 2CV!

Just picked up some near immaculate 18" alloys and winter tyres (Dunlop not the best though) for £400. The only thing that needs doing at the moment is the front pads are a bit low and needs a fair bit of pedal pressure.

Poverty Pork is sublime!

[ATM]

lost in espace said:

I spotted this lovely 987.1 non S on boxa.net up for sale from a very respected member. Lowered on H&R sport springs maybe a little too low and harsh, Carnewall cats and exhaust, spacers. It is bloody lovely, full history. So nice to get back into some Pork after 10 years, my last was a 986S and this feels faster. Being a 5 speed, with the 2.7 I am hoping to be problem free-ish, and it is big bearing. Just had the major service, and it is coming up as worth more on WBAC than I paid thanks to the pandemic. Guy I bought it off bought a nicer car though, 1957 2CV!

Just picked up some near immaculate 18" alloys and winter tyres (Dunlop not the best though) for £400. The only thing that needs doing at the moment is the front pads are a bit low and needs a fair bit of pedal pressure.

Poverty Pork is sublime!

Nice

I feel sorry for anyone paying £580 road tax on these where they are registered after march 2006. Feels like a double whammy to me considering it is not even the S and yet still the big tax bill.

[Andyoz]

youngsyr said:

Andyoz said:

jakesmith said:

My mate has just bought a 997S Tip for £13k! Not the one to have I know but impressively cheap. Hope it doesn't bite him. Off to Northway for a serice as we speak. Got some nice features like colour coded console & alcatara headlining. He's a trader & got it as a PX from a main dealer friend.

Yeah, just drive and enjoy?

Isn't the 997.1 S the most prone model for engine issues?

It's a great headline price, but it comes with the baggage of wondering if/when the engine will let go.

Yes, I think it is. Most will be fine and just bank the difference in price between a gen 1 and gen 2 as a war chest you'll probably not need. Gives ownership that added extra edge!

[ferrisbueller]

youngsyr said:

ATM said:

Unique in Bolton 10k rebuild
Car now in auction reserve not met

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333646666186

That's a very interesting car to set the bench mark, that has to be around £25k pre Covid, wouldn't you say?

Baz's own rebuilt C4S featured on one of these threads a while back. IIRC it was listed on ebay, too, and was something like £23k. Black with a red interior.

[ATM]

anonymous said:

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When you gonna sell you box - or did I miss it's departure?

[ATM]

anonymous said:

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Would WBAC notice the odd bumper or are you refitting the original holy one?

[Andyoz]

anonymous said:

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Business bounce back loans definitely a big factor. I've heard that confirmed from several different angles.

Are private sales nearly as active as dealer ones?

[tr7v8]

lost in espace said:

Just picked up some near immaculate 18" alloys and winter tyres (Dunlop not the best though) for £400. The only thing that needs doing at the moment is the front pads are a bit low and needs a fair bit of pedal pressure.

I have Dunlop Sport 5 winters on my Cayenne. The none-N rated one. These are rated much higher for wet grip than the N rated Dunlop & are pretty much the highest rated across all the 18" winters. They have been great on the Cayenne & only just been swapped to summers.

[jakesmith]

anonymous said:

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Hard to fault the logic
My friend's car is the tip as well which possibly increases the chances even more as the car pulls away in 2nd by default for some reason.
I wonder if the X51 powerkit variant is the ultimate grenade but very few numbers out there to tell as so few willing to pay the £8k option price for +25BHP. Forced induction renders that sort of upgrade utterly redundant now.

[youngsyr]

ferrisbueller said:

youngsyr said:

ATM said:

Unique in Bolton 10k rebuild
Car now in auction reserve not met

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333646666186

That's a very interesting car to set the bench mark, that has to be around £25k pre Covid, wouldn't you say?

Baz's own rebuilt C4S featured on one of these threads a while back. IIRC it was listed on ebay, too, and was something like £23k. Black with a red interior.

Interesting, the eBay car has PSE and some nice other bits too. Seems £23-£25k would be around where it was at?

[Escy]

ATM said:

Nice

I feel sorry for anyone paying £580 road tax on these where they are registered after march 2006. Feels like a double whammy to me considering it is not even the S and yet still the big tax bill.

I've got one registered June 2007, DVLA website shows 12 months tax at £325

[youngsyr]

anonymous said:

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I guess it's possible, I'm not sure the stats are available to prove it either way?

From memory, Hartech (who see a lot of blown 9X6 and 9X7 engines) did state that the 3.8 997.1 gen engine was more prone to damage than the others.

It's certainly "accepted knowledge" on the 911 forum that the 997.1 engines are generally the weakest of the 911 engines and the S version is the weakest of them all and the market does seem to support that in values, but who can say whether that's just unfounded hearsay?

[ferrisbueller]

youngsyr said:

ferrisbueller said:

youngsyr said:

ATM said:

Unique in Bolton 10k rebuild
Car now in auction reserve not met

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333646666186

That's a very interesting car to set the bench mark, that has to be around £25k pre Covid, wouldn't you say?

Baz's own rebuilt C4S featured on one of these threads a while back. IIRC it was listed on ebay, too, and was something like £23k. Black with a red interior.

Interesting, the eBay car has PSE and some nice other bits too. Seems £23-£25k would be around where it was at?

Lots of variables but £20-25k would be my guess. Hartech'd 997s have been seen in that range, too.