I've just bought some poverty Pork…

[youngsyr]

shalmaneser said:

youngsyr said:

Why would you buy a wrapped car only to remove the wrap?

And I'm going to have to call bullsh!t on the hiding a multitude of sins with a £150 DIY job. Yes you might hide a scratched spoiler, but you're not going to hide seberal panels without wrapping the hole car and wrapping complex shapes, which most cars have, well is not easy- that's why it costs £1,500+ to wrap a car well.

Apologies for the clickbait style thumbnail but it's a good little YouTube series

Hardly a multitude of sins though, is it? Bonnet just needs a respray, and that's from a car with a very obviously cheap wrap job done on it.

The wrap didn't even need removing- very easy to re do the wing mirrors for minimal cost.

The guy bought a car with a cheap wrap job that he dudnt like and was then surprised he needed to respray one panel afterwards.

Bit of a non-story, IMO?

Edited by youngsyr on Tuesday 14th July 13:16

[edc]

Andyoz said:

Every time I go through the exercise of thinking what Boxster I would buy to go with my 987S Cayman I always end up with:

-- 2005 (or pre April 2006) Boxster 987 with the 3.2 engine --

Is that the correct answer....

I've never driven the 3.2 but suspect it's slightly old school roots will go down well in future as we get even more nostalgic about Porsche's past.

Edited by Andyoz on Tuesday 14th July 11:40

If you have a 987 already I would get a 986. Or trade your 987 for a 987.2.

[Andyoz]

anonymous said:

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I need to try a 986...
I do see what you mean about their charm especially in speed yellow.

Other option is gen 2 base with 2.9

Thanks for reality check.

[Andyoz]

This lasted an hour. I don't think it's that great a deal unless it's been well maintained like a drivers car as it's a base. There's a similar mint 12k mile one local to me for slightly less and it's an S.

Edited by Andyoz on Tuesday 14th July 15:10

[Speedgelb]

Andyoz said:

I need to try a 986...
I do see what you mean about their charm especially in speed yellow.

Not for sale, but to give you an idea

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[ATM]

anonymous said:

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At least give the vibrant community on here a stab at it first?

[olv]

anonymous said:

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WBAC will currently give me more than I paid for mine!

[ATM]

anonymous said:

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Same

I also hate buying and selling cars but I prefer to buy them from a person rather than a little dealer. The upside for you as a seller is knowing the car has gone to someone appreciative. You need to sell to someone who is a grown up so if the car falls apart they dont some how assume you're responsible when you're clearly not. But I can understand that in this day and age these grown ups are in short supply.

I know this sounds like some positive mumbo jumbo but I'd rather see one of my cars to go to someone I know but yes the risk is that it never fails and again they need to be a grown up.

All that aside we're talking about a transaction here between 2 strangers on the Internet. So I can understand the WBAC thing. Seems simple enough and clean with no come back around.

[Andyoz]

Always enjoy when lads post this stuff on the FB forums. These are from 2005.

[RiccardoG]

youngsyr said:

Hardly a multitude of sins though, is it? Bonnet just needs a respray, and that's from a car with a very obviously cheap wrap job done on it.

The wrap didn't even need removing- very easy to re do the wing mirrors for minimal cost.

The guy bought a car with a cheap wrap job that he dudnt like and was then surprised he needed to respray one panel afterwards.

Bit of a non-story, IMO?

Edited by youngsyr on Tuesday 14th July 13:16

I take it you're partial to a wrap and there is nothing wrong with that if its what you like.

However, in terms of the video, many more vlogs have been done over considerably lesser stories. So I actually thought that particular one was interesting.

The whole point is, wraps can (and do) hide paintwork issues, which is why people would do well to be wary of them. Not to say all wraps are "dodgy", but just that once they're taken off the body might look quite different. A bit like internet dating then!

[Speedgelb]

anonymous said:

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The green 3.2s at Baron's just got hammered down at £5900. Adding on the buyer's premium that's over £6500:

https://www.barons-auctions.com/view-lot/3657/for-...

Forest Green with 140,000 miles.

Crikey!

No extended leather either. Did the "£1k number plate" actually have any bearing (assume not).

Perhaps I'm underestimating the 'market value' of my Speed Yellow car. Higher miles also, but mint, with AC / cooling system / clutch all overhauled, and facelift roof. Just about to go all in with the suspension.

[Speedgelb]

[snotrag]

shalmaneser said:

Agreed, get some 964 rs mounts on there. Easy job (on the 996 anyway...)

Did this on my Boxster. Dead Easy, not expensive, and one of the best things I did. Made a much bigger (positive) difference than the more commonly changed front engine mount did too.


(964 RS style engine mounts used as transmission mounts on a Boxster/Cayman btw everyone).

[Andyoz]

anonymous said:

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Back in 2005 where the adverts from, the 997 platform etc was coming out, power figures increasing, car tech was king. It was a new era for Porsche and in many people's minds that older stuff literally was 'old school' and not necessarily in a good way.

Many would have been wary of the maintenance costs as people actually drove the cars back then It would have been hard to argue current air cooled prices back then when it bought you a NEW 997 with warranty etc.

Pre PCP and QE days too when a big car loan cost alot in interest.

So if you really put your headspace back 15 years, pricing starts to make some sense?

Edited by Andyoz on Tuesday 14th July 18:27

[St Ives]

Speedgelb said:

Facelift roof is a definite plus - did the same to my pre-facelift car.

Proper glove compartment / cup holder in the 986.2 is nice. Prefer the lines of the 986.1 though.

Lights, meh. The yellow peril is a 986.1, upgraded the fronts to litronics, left the amber side repeaters and rears. Think ambers suit the colour better, but I need litronics. Function over form.

Out if interest, what was the cost (and hassle) to fit the 986.2 roof please?

A good job done as it creates a much nicer silhouette. Was going to aim for a 986.2 for this reason but much prefer 986.1 bumpers etc!

[Andyoz]

anonymous said:

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Yes, it's from Classic & Sportscar magazine 2005 apparently. Here's original post from 'Porsche Owners UK' Facebook page. Cheap money really affects asset values ...

[youngsyr]

RiccardoG said:

youngsyr said:

Hardly a multitude of sins though, is it? Bonnet just needs a respray, and that's from a car with a very obviously cheap wrap job done on it.

The wrap didn't even need removing- very easy to re do the wing mirrors for minimal cost.

The guy bought a car with a cheap wrap job that he dudnt like and was then surprised he needed to respray one panel afterwards.

Bit of a non-story, IMO?

Edited by youngsyr on Tuesday 14th July 13:16

I take it you're partial to a wrap and there is nothing wrong with that if its what you like.

However, in terms of the video, many more vlogs have been done over considerably lesser stories. So I actually thought that particular one was interesting.

The whole point is, wraps can (and do) hide paintwork issues, which is why people would do well to be wary of them. Not to say all wraps are "dodgy", but just that once they're taken off the body might look quite different. A bit like internet dating then!

I wouldn't say I'm partial to a wrap and I'm not really disagreeing with your central point, I'm just clarifying that cheap wraps tend to indicate a car that has had corners cut and money saved elsewhere too.

Expensive wraps, especially in colours that are hard/impossible to paint, might well indicate the opposite.

Just like a car's tyres, funnily enough.

It's usually pretty easy to tell the difference between a good and bad wrap too - if you can see any of the original colour, join marks in the wrap and or peeling, it's a bad/cheap wrap.

The wrap on my old 996 was excellent, even with the extremely complex deck lid/spoiler grills, you had to look hard to find the seam.

[Escy]

The car I was referring to was the cheapest 987 on the market at the time with what looked like a nasty wrap. The fact it looks nice under the wrap was good news for the guy that bought it and took a chance on it but I wasn't prepared to take the risk.

[edc]

St Ives said:

Speedgelb said:

Facelift roof is a definite plus - did the same to my pre-facelift car.

Proper glove compartment / cup holder in the 986.2 is nice. Prefer the lines of the 986.1 though.

Lights, meh. The yellow peril is a 986.1, upgraded the fronts to litronics, left the amber side repeaters and rears. Think ambers suit the colour better, but I need litronics. Function over form.

Out if interest, what was the cost (and hassle) to fit the 986.2 roof please?

A good job done as it creates a much nicer silhouette. Was going to aim for a 986.2 for this reason but much prefer 986.1 bumpers etc!

Using the same logic you apply then why not get a facelift and out the earlier bumpers on if that is a big driver for you?

[Speedgelb]

St Ives said:

Out if interest, what was the cost (and hassle) to fit the 986.2 roof please?

A good job done as it creates a much nicer silhouette. Was going to aim for a 986.2 for this reason but much prefer 986.1 bumpers etc!

Paid circa £475 for a facelift roof in mint condition. Unsure of the cost to fit - some mates helped me, I just picked up the tab at the restaurant we went to afterwards

Took about a couple of hours.