I've just bought some poverty Pork…

[Escy]

paul chocks said:

Maybe not quite poverty, but if you’re after a Cayman 987.2, this Cat N is about 25% less than non-registered. Owner appears to be open about it and some record of work done

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324348074530

That looks a good buy, there will be plenty of cars with a clean history that have been damaged worse than that.

[snotrag]

I'm very interested to we what this one fetches, at just 37k on the clock and the best colour, The collecting cars platform seems to be making good sales figures.

Something like this is on my radar in the spring.... Tidy, but basic 2.7 Manual Cayman. Preferably in Guards too!




https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...

Edited by snotrag on Monday 26th October 21:57

[ooid]

Escy said:

That looks a good buy, there will be plenty of cars with a clean history that have been damaged worse than that.

I agree.. How is that CAT N though? My friend had a 987 S, a worse damage than that a few years ago.The insurance just repaired it (2k I think), and moved on. It was not write off?

[Escy]

It did have damage on both wings, the drivers side wing looked like maybe the wheel had been pushed back into it.

[jimmy p]

snotrag said:

I'm very interested to we what this one fetches, at just 37k on the clock and the best colour, The collecting cars platform seems to be making good sales figures.

Something like this is on my radar in the spring.... Tidy, but basic 2.7 Manual Cayman. Preferably in Guards too!








https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2008-porsche-9...

Edited by snotrag on Monday 26th October 21:57

Looks a great car that with the history and 1 owner

[gizlaroc]

jimmy p said:

Looks a great car that with the history and 1 owner

Agreed, but what will it fetch?

There were the two red 2.9 cars last month with roughly 80k miles on them, the one in Scotland and the one David Baily was selling with pics of around 10% of the car in each photo.

They were both under £13k.


I would much rather a 987.2 2.9 with 80k than a 987.1 2.7 with 37k miles.

[ATM]

gizlaroc said:

jimmy p said:

Looks a great car that with the history and 1 owner

Agreed, but what will it fetch?

There were the two red 2.9 cars last month with roughly 80k miles on them, the one in Scotland and the one David Baily was selling with pics of around 10% of the car in each photo.

They were both under £13k.


I would much rather a 987.2 2.9 with 80k than a 987.1 2.7 with 37k miles.

Agreed

Which is why if you look at 997 pricing super low mileage 997 gen 1 cars struggle to get over 30k. Where as leggy 997 gen 2 cars start at 36k.

[ferrisbueller]

ATM said:

gizlaroc said:

jimmy p said:

Looks a great car that with the history and 1 owner

Agreed, but what will it fetch?

There were the two red 2.9 cars last month with roughly 80k miles on them, the one in Scotland and the one David Baily was selling with pics of around 10% of the car in each photo.

They were both under £13k.


I would much rather a 987.2 2.9 with 80k than a 987.1 2.7 with 37k miles.

Agreed

Which is why if you look at 997 pricing super low mileage 997 gen 1 cars struggle to get over 30k. Where as leggy 997 gen 2 cars start at 36k.

Is that not due to the engines?

[gizlaroc]

ferrisbueller said:

Is that not due to the engines?

Of course.

A car with a ticking time bomb (as many believe) will always struggle.

For me there is no other reason to buy a 9X7.2 over the 9X7.1 apart from reliability, oh, and prefer the climate control fascia on the .2 as well, but not at nearly double the price, which is often the gap.

[ferrisbueller]

gizlaroc said:

ferrisbueller said:

Is that not due to the engines?

Of course.

A car with a ticking time bomb (as many believe) will always struggle.

For me there is no other reason to buy a 9X7.2 over the 9X7.1 apart from reliability, oh, and prefer the climate control fascia on the .2 as well, but not at nearly double the price, which is often the gap.

Yes, but I was under the impression this is a far greater concern on 997 than 987.

[jimmy p]

A late 987.1 2.7 is about a reliable as they come. No real threat of ims issues and no bore score. Sound better too, especially that one as it has pse.

12-14k would be my guess

[ATM]

Bore score basically unheard of on the newer engines. No noise about RMS so not even sure if this is even an issue. Also the new engines don't even have an intermediate shift so there is no IMS bearing at all. So yes the gen 2 cars all have much better engines and thats why they cost more.

[Dimebars]

WojaWabbit said:

I thought I recognised the area too, but couldn't quite think furryboots. I'm in Aberdeen/Dyce until my house is sold, so I'll also keep an eye out for the Boxster.

This could be a bargain for us local-ish loons, depends if they include a fresh MOT for the asking price: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/34441102...

I'd go for a gander at it myself but the aforementioned house sale has put a stop to any more toys for the time being.

It's cheap for a reason (I've enquired about it already!!)

Zero history, one key that might not even lock the doors!

Same owner for last 14 years though, and I'd imagine it would be scrap without any maintenance in 14 years

[Leftfootwonder]

ATM said:

Bore score basically unheard of on the newer engines. No noise about RMS so not even sure if this is even an issue. Also the new engines don't even have an intermediate shift so there is no IMS bearing at all. So yes the gen 2 cars all have much better engines and thats why they cost more.

There are stories of 987.2, 981 and even 991's with bore score. Like anything in life, you pays your money and you takes your chances.

[Fast Bug]

I've got a friend with a 997.2S that's had both engine and gearbox rebuilt so far. Its not even high miles!

[Leftfootwonder]

Fast Bug said:

I've got a friend with a 997.2S that's had both engine and gearbox rebuilt so far. Its not even high miles!

Was just about to edit my post above to include 997.2

But in context, of course every manufacturer has issues of varying degrees. Overall Porsche are probably no worse than anyone else, they just have a (unfounded) reputation of reliability so when things do go wrong, people are more surprised.

[Speedgelb]

The reports of bore score on the 9A1 engine appear to be isolated incidents, however. Certainly nowhere near the magnitude of incidence as per the M96 3.6 and M97 engines.

[WojaWabbit]

Dimebars said:

WojaWabbit said:

I thought I recognised the area too, but couldn't quite think furryboots. I'm in Aberdeen/Dyce until my house is sold, so I'll also keep an eye out for the Boxster.

This could be a bargain for us local-ish loons, depends if they include a fresh MOT for the asking price: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/34441102...

I'd go for a gander at it myself but the aforementioned house sale has put a stop to any more toys for the time being.

It's cheap for a reason (I've enquired about it already!!)

Zero history, one key that might not even lock the doors!

Same owner for last 14 years though, and I'd imagine it would be scrap without any maintenance in 14 years

Interesting. It would at least have required some work for MOTs in that time. Could be worth a punt if it can be chipped down to £2.5kish. Would suit my requirements for a cheap track hack.

[jakesmith]

Leftfootwonder said:

every manufacturer has issues of varying degrees. Overall Porsche are probably no worse than anyone else,

I am not aware of another volume manufacturer recently with the engine issues approaching those of of the M96 & M97

I mean, there is Audi they suffered bore scoring too on some 1.8 & 2.0 lumps but my dad got a brand new 1.8T unit fitted completely FOC when his car was 9 years old and worth probably £3k trade, so with that attitude it really isn't comparable.

[edc]

If you search enough you will find loads of problems with 1.0 Ford ecoboost, BMW diesel timing chain, BMW swirl flaps to name a few.