I've just bought some poverty Pork…

I've just bought some poverty Pork…

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VSKeith

748 posts

47 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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Escy said:
I think that proves my personal opinion that maintaining a high mileage car is dead money. It's also another example where a Hartech engine rebuild does nothing for the value. Everyone who digs deep for one seems to persuade themselves that they are adding significant value to the car. Once it's done >10k miles on the new engine any potential added value has ebbed away from what I see in the adverts.

Cheap 987. 2006, 106k miles, basic spec, £6500 from a dealer.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/77063247...
It's a great point and quite sad really as it discourages maintaining them

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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VSKeith said:
Escy said:
I think that proves my personal opinion that maintaining a high mileage car is dead money. It's also another example where a Hartech engine rebuild does nothing for the value. Everyone who digs deep for one seems to persuade themselves that they are adding significant value to the car. Once it's done >10k miles on the new engine any potential added value has ebbed away from what I see in the adverts.

Cheap 987. 2006, 106k miles, basic spec, £6500 from a dealer.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/77063247...
It's a great point and quite sad really as it discourages maintaining them
The best financial decision is always to buy one that has been seriously well maintained and pay a bit of a premium for the privilege. That's what I'm trying to do.

Escy

3,940 posts

149 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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I don't think there is a premium on it due to the maintenance , it'd be worth the same. It's bottom of the market due to mileage. You could argue the seller is better off leaving the engine and gearbox re-build out of the advert. Screams out the car has been trouble and cost a fortune to maintain over the last few years. It's par for the course for an old high mileage Porsche and enthusiasts may see the work done as a positive but the general punter would probably be more comfortable buying a high mileage example that was advertised as having never skipped a beat and been a joy to own rather than listing multiple major failures and what they cost to put right.

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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Escy said:
I don't think there is a premium on it due to the maintenance , it'd be worth the same. It's bottom of the market due to mileage. You could argue the seller is better off leaving the engine and gearbox re-build out of the advert. Screams out the car has been trouble and cost a fortune to maintain over the last few years. It's par for the course for an old high mileage Porsche and enthusiasts may see the work done as a positive but the general punter would probably be more comfortable buying a high mileage example that was advertised as having never skipped a beat and been a joy to own rather than listing multiple major failures and what they cost to put right.
We'll never know and this is all guess work. I think it's just the mileage putting people off. Even if the list of stuff done recently was shorter I think it still wouldn't sell. Porsche buyers are very fickle. They always always want lower mileage. If that car had done only 65000 miles then it would have sold already.

Fink-Nottle

388 posts

42 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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Scam alert, vol.2!

The other day I remarked how I had reported a scam ad for a 996 Turbo on Autoscout Switzerland. Well, at the behest of Autoscout the scammer took down the dealer photos he had nicked from another website, and replaced them with new ones.

Test your Porsche mojo. How can you tell that at least two of these new photos are fraudulent too? No knowledge of German required to spot the issue.

https://www.autoscout24.ch/9669411


Skyedriver

17,872 posts

282 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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I'm no expert but the reversed text doesn't look good

VSKeith

748 posts

47 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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Seems that the interior pic is not of the same car - white dials in the interior pic and not in the rear 3/4 image, the wheels are turned in the exterior images but the steering wheel is straight, plus the mileage is lower than advertised, although you'd expect the ad details to be lower if fraudulent.

Not exactly Porsche specific though

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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Skyedriver said:
I'm no expert but the reversed text doesn't look good
And rear wiper wrong way round

snotrag

14,464 posts

211 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/2000-porsch...


Speed Yellow 3.2 ending tomorrow, might go cheap. Bit miley, and needs sem bodywork touch ups. But it's a good spec, it's had some useful maintenance, and it's Yellow!

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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snotrag said:
https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/2000-porsch...


Speed Yellow 3.2 ending tomorrow, might go cheap. Bit miley, and needs sem bodywork touch ups. But it's a good spec, it's had some useful maintenance, and it's Yellow!
Looks ok that

New soft top with glass window
Hard top included
Sports exhaust

Hopefully Skyedriver is bidding ss it's in Sunny Scotland too

snotrag

14,464 posts

211 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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The lower wing corners need a repaint in the usual place if you look closely but yes there's lots to like. Speed Yellow would be my #1 colour for a keeper too!

Escy

3,940 posts

149 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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It's my colour of choice also.

Skyedriver

17,872 posts

282 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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ATM said:
Hopefully Skyedriver is bidding ss it's in Sunny Scotland too
Saw this a month ago at a show.

If Christian Grey & Anastasia Steele did yellow......

Fink-Nottle

388 posts

42 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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ATM said:
Skyedriver said:
I'm no expert but the reversed text doesn't look good
And rear wiper wrong way round
Elementary, Watson.

So, this plank published mirror-inverted photos in order to hide the fact that the car shown in the exterior images is RHD, which in continental Europe would make it unsellable.

No idea why he would do this rather than just using stolen pictures of an actual LHD 996TT. Maybe a hare-brained effort to evade detection by an image-search software?


Fink-Nottle

388 posts

42 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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VSKeith said:
Seems that the interior pic is not of the same car - white dials in the interior pic and not in the rear 3/4 image, the wheels are turned in the exterior images but the steering wheel is straight, plus the mileage is lower than advertised, although you'd expect the ad details to be lower if fraudulent.
I, uh, didn't notice any of these things... biggrin

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Monday 4th July 2022
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Dimebars

897 posts

94 months

Monday 4th July 2022
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Ashgood were advertising (if you can call it that when it appears on an Instagram story) a 'project' 996 cabrio at £8750 the other day

snotrag

14,464 posts

211 months

Monday 4th July 2022
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snotrag said:
https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/2000-porsch...


Speed Yellow 3.2 ending tomorrow, might go cheap. Bit miley, and needs sem bodywork touch ups. But it's a good spec, it's had some useful maintenance, and it's Yellow!
£7650. Not bad.

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Monday 4th July 2022
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snotrag said:
snotrag said:
https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/2000-porsch...


Speed Yellow 3.2 ending tomorrow, might go cheap. Bit miley, and needs sem bodywork touch ups. But it's a good spec, it's had some useful maintenance, and it's Yellow!
£7650. Not bad.
Did you say YELLOW?

VSKeith

748 posts

47 months

Monday 4th July 2022
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ATM said:
I saw that - amazing work. I think "4 day makeover" would be a more accurate description wink