I've just bought some poverty Pork…

[Smollet]

ATM said:

986 is very 996 so will feel almost identical

I've never driven a 987 myself. I did have a 997 for a while in 2005 and it was lovely. I think the 987 should be a good car. I'd have difficulty believing in a 2.7 even though the performance difference isn't really that big. I'm just a sucker for buying the quicker models. My 986 does feel a bit slow at times. Once you are used to having the performance when it is taken away you really notice it.

I’m going to have to get used to that with my prostate issues anyway
My other car is a mildly tweaked WRX so I’ll still have performance. I just want a nice well balanced sportscar again and I think a 987 could well fit the bill.

[shalmaneser]

My other half has a 987 2.7 and compared to my 996 3.4 the engine does lack a good bit of go. I don't think the 2.7 has variocam either so you don't get the (vtech yo) kick at 4k rpm or whatever it is.

Would like to try a 3.2 or 3.4 986/7 I'm sure that would be plenty quick enough.

[esotericar]

Smollet said:

Budget around £12k. I’m sort of heading in the 987 direction.

987.1 3.2 MY2006 is comfortably the value buy out of all these cars - 986, 987, 996 etc - I'd say. Get one nicely specced with all the cow etc and it feels like an awful, awful lot of car and has just enough performance. You could spend 4x as much on a 997.2 and not get a great deal more car. I just spent over 2x as much on a 987.2 3.4 and it's barely any more car, really. My problem is that I ultimately prefer coupes, the 987.1 3.4 is a disaster and I can't be bothered with rolling the dice on rebuilds, been there done that, got the invoice to prove it! So, you end up going with the gen 2. It's just the more straight forward purchase and it does rev out a bit better.

Even now, I'd say £12k is enough for a pretty nice private 987.1 3.2. Agree with the sentiment above. Compared to what £12k buys in 996 terms, it's a no brainer.

[esotericar]

Think all these engines have some level of Variocam, even a 986 2.5.

[ATM]

esotericar said:

Think all these engines have some level of Variocam, even a 986 2.5.

I'd agree

It would surely be too complicated to make some engines with and some without.

[Autobantz]

ATM said:

I was out in my 996 with no rear seats today. I pulled over to talk to 2 young ladies. The thought did cross my mind to offer them a lift but I just dont have the seats so I said my farewells and drove off.

Of course it's a bit more nuanced. I've owned three 911s and never a Boxster.

However, my old man would laugh at me trying to climb in and out of the GT3s and honestly, for a bumpy, crumbling B-road, a GT3 wouldn't see which way a 2.7 Boxster went (obviously it's a different story once things open up, but how often does that happen in the UK).

That was the point. A 997 Carrera would be a much more useful comparison on the same road, but then it boils down to this:

987 2.7 for £10k
997 C2 for £30k

I'd take the Boxster in a flash.

[shalmaneser]

ATM said:

esotericar said:

Think all these engines have some level of Variocam, even a 986 2.5.

I'd agree

It would surely be too complicated to make some engines with and some without.

Ah it has variocam but not variocam plus apparently.

[Patrick Bateman]

2.7 only gets going properly at around the 4.5k mark, cracking engine just lacking a few ponies to be ideal.

[2Btoo]

Hmmm. I've had my 987.1 2.7 Cayman for a few years now and I'd never have agreed with the sentiments that it doesn't have enough grunt.

Today, for the first time (possibly ever), I drove the car and thought precisely that.

How odd. I wonder if it's to do with the hot weather.

[shalmaneser]

To be fair I'm used to driving my 996 3.4 which fastestlaps.com tells me is 4.9 to 60, whereas the 987 2.7 is 6.5 to 60, which is a fairly big difference.

Same website reckons that the 987.1 Boxster S is actually slightly faster than the 996.1.

[ATM]

2Btoo said:

Hmmm. I've had my 987.1 2.7 Cayman for a few years now and I'd never have agreed with the sentiments that it doesn't have enough grunt.

Today, for the first time (possibly ever), I drove the car and thought precisely that.

How odd. I wonder if it's to do with the hot weather.

AC on?

[2Btoo]

ATM said:

AC on?

Nice thinking. But no. However thinner, warmer air is less dense and the engine will produce less power. The difference will be minimal mind, so the problem is more likely to be that I'm getting greedy....

[ATM]

2Btoo said:

ATM said:

AC on?

Nice thinking. But no. However thinner, warmer air is less dense and the engine will produce less power. The difference will be minimal mind, so the problem is more likely to be that I'm getting greedy....

Eating lots of Pies and Kebabs recently?

[2Btoo]

ATM said:

Eating lots of Pies and Kebabs recently?

Of course 😊

[Smollet]

Thoughts on this?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206257...

[MrC986]

Smollet said:

Thoughts on this?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206257...

Online MOT history indicates the car may need tyres & suspension work imminently. I helped a good friend buy a similar age car last year (with 80k miles on the clock) & he paid about £6.5k for his so the pricing looks ok. On a car of that age, tyre age & perished suspension components & air con rads etc. become more prevalent.

[Smollet]

MrC986 said:

Smollet said:

Thoughts on this?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206257...

Online MOT history indicates the car may need tyres & suspension work imminently. I helped a good friend buy a similar age car last year (with 80k miles on the clock) & he paid about £6.5k for his so the pricing looks ok. On a car of that age, tyre age & perished suspension components & air con rads etc. become more prevalent.

Thanks.

[Slippydiff]

2Btoo said:

Hmmm. I've had my 987.1 2.7 Cayman for a few years now and I'd never have agreed with the sentiments that it doesn't have enough grunt.

Today, for the first time (possibly ever), I drove the car and thought precisely that.

How odd. I wonder if it's to do with the hot weather.

It was 31 degrees on Monday, a 987/986 engine bay is a hot place and compromised from the perspective of cooling/air flow at the best of times. I’d be surprised if the ECU wasn’t trying to compensate for the increased inlet temperatures it was seeing, and you experienced a noticeable power loss as a result.

Winter is just round the corner now and normal service will be resumed once we get back to sub 10 degree temperatures (and some rain to improve inlet charge density)

Alternatively you could pop out at 3 or 4am when the temperature has dropped, and report back as to whether the engine feels more “normal” as a result of the 15 + degree temperature drop in the engine bay.

[A - W]

MrC986 said:

Smollet said:

Thoughts on this?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206257...

Online MOT history indicates the car may need tyres & suspension work imminently. I helped a good friend buy a similar age car last year (with 80k miles on the clock) & he paid about £6.5k for his so the pricing looks ok. On a car of that age, tyre age & perished suspension components & air con rads etc. become more prevalent.

Retracted roof looks filthy, then some other photos from seemingly maybe another time/advert? Not sure.

[Smollet]

A - W said:

MrC986 said:

Smollet said:

Thoughts on this?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206257...

Online MOT history indicates the car may need tyres & suspension work imminently. I helped a good friend buy a similar age car last year (with 80k miles on the clock) & he paid about £6.5k for his so the pricing looks ok. On a car of that age, tyre age & perished suspension components & air con rads etc. become more prevalent.

Retracted roof looks filthy, then some other photos from seemingly maybe another time/advert? Not sure.

Yes, the lack of pictures with the hood erected or interior makes me wonder as to what it’s like in the flesh. I think the price isn’t too far off bearing in mind other ones of similar spec, age, mileage but in good nick are easily £10k+