I've just bought some poverty Pork…

[minimoog]

Don't know what they do for the ride but it sits well on the Eibachs I gotta say

[m444ttb]

Is that lower than your E36 was? That reminds me, I saw that as a reference pic for an E36 somewhere on Wikipedia (beyond the E36 page itself)!

Edit: Yes it do, it's on Pinky Lai's page too!

[m444ttb]

anonymous said:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinky_Lai

Someone seems to have swapped their crap red 'vert in on the E36 page now

[Bullet-Proof_Biscuit]

ATM said:

So I'd need two Boxsters. One with hardtop and one without.

lol!

[richardxjr]

Mogul said:

What do the OE exhaust back boxes go for (new from Porsche)?

I followed a 986 recently that looked odd because it had an aftermarket exhaust with no visible rear silencer - just twin pipes poking out in the usual place. I could see the brace/cross member below it...

Kind of like the look of the OE back box. It is, after all, ‘ribbed’ for her pleasure.... :-)

Dansk do OE looking ribbed in 3 levels of loudness. They also do a smooth 'sausage' one which is what mine has. Looks and sounds divine!

[Dimebars]

lost in espace said:

Thanks Billy, just under £6k was a bargain. Been driving electric cars for 5 years, keep trying to plug it in when I get home. Decided to get this as a weekend car now petrol is cheaper. I insured it for £190, my Leaf costs twice that!

Been looking on Boxa.net for a bargain but very little seems to be moving

[shalmaneser]

anonymous said:

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I love an E36 on Style 32's. Was so tempted to get some for my E36 M3, but I fell into an offset/tyre width rabbit hole and could never find the right set of 17's. Was close to buying a Z3 at one point just to get the wheels off it!

Someone needs to change the pic of the 996 in Pinky's Wikipedia. Poor choice of car and awful photo.

[Bullet-Proof_Biscuit]

Apologies if it's a repost but I'm watching this crock with a knock:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Cayman-s-3-4-20...

Considering a working one is £10k the price is getting a bit heady if it's a rebuild candidate, but guesses would be a duff DMF, chain tensioner pad or tensioner has died. Could be a good diy fix. Though being an early 3.4 it's fate is somewhat sealed, (goes to hide in case I got that wrong again lol).

Do have the likes for a black croc lately though....

[pete.g]

Bullet-Proof_Biscuit said:

Apologies if it's a repost but I'm watching this crock with a knock:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Cayman-s-3-4-20...

Considering a working one is £10k the price is getting a bit heady if it's a rebuild candidate, but guesses would be a duff DMF, chain tensioner pad or tensioner has died. Could be a good diy fix. Though being an early 3.4 it's fate is somewhat sealed, (goes to hide in case I got that wrong again lol).

Do have the likes for a black croc lately though....

Yes - I think black is a good colour choice for the 987 shape. If I was going for one it would probably be a 2.9 Gen 2, just for peace of mind.

[minimoog]

anonymous said:

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Given a rebuild could be 1x-2x the cost of the car again at that price point (if paying a specialist that is) I'm struggling to see how the man maffs works out on this kind of prospect.

What am I missing? Are there men in sheds who can rebuild a flat six more attractively than just buying a car that already works as it should? Can you buy a used working engine and sell the borked one as spares or repair to make the sums stack up?

[shalmaneser]

minimoog said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Given a rebuild could be 1x-2x the cost of the car again at that price point (if paying a specialist that is) I'm struggling to see how the man maffs works out on this kind of prospect.

What am I missing? Are there men in sheds who can rebuild a flat six more attractively than just buying a car that already works as it should? Can you buy a used working engine and sell the borked one as spares or repair to make the sums stack up?

The knock on the most recently posted car supposedly goes away above 2.5k rpm. It could well just be the variocam being knackered, which I believe can be fixed with the engine in the car and repaired with second hand bits. Doable for the home gamer.

The older car with bore scoring...well you could be looking at £10k for a hartech rebuild, assuming you deliver them the engine on a pallet and the borkage isn't too massive. Then you've got a very nice Caymen for pretty good money.

It's tight, no question, so the question really is, do you feel lucky?

[nickpan]

Hello everyone!

I’m hoping to join the Poverty Pork fold shortly.

Have previously had two 996’s, a 993 and a 912.

Am now a family man and the budget for a Saturday morning car is MUCH reduced.

We have a a car for family duties, and one for GT duties so this needs to be as raw and as simple as I can get for £5kish.

I’m think 2.5 Boxster - pre ‘00. I’d like the 993 steering wheel and gear stick if possible! Am I on the right tracks?

[Bluedot]

shalmaneser said:

minimoog said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Given a rebuild could be 1x-2x the cost of the car again at that price point (if paying a specialist that is) I'm struggling to see how the man maffs works out on this kind of prospect.

What am I missing? Are there men in sheds who can rebuild a flat six more attractively than just buying a car that already works as it should? Can you buy a used working engine and sell the borked one as spares or repair to make the sums stack up?

The knock on the most recently posted car supposedly goes away above 2.5k rpm. It could well just be the variocam being knackered, which I believe can be fixed with the engine in the car and repaired with second hand bits. Doable for the home gamer.

The older car with bore scoring...well you could be looking at £10k for a hartech rebuild, assuming you deliver them the engine on a pallet and the borkage isn't too massive. Then you've got a very nice Caymen for pretty good money.

It's tight, no question, so the question really is, do you feel lucky?

My concern is that the seller has either had the noise investigated and found it be an expensive fix and is now just playing innocent or they don't want to spend money on someone taking a look which would mean I'd then question how well it's been looked after.
Obviously there's a chance they've looked after it well but have now just run out of money and can't afford to have it looked at.
Seems over priced to me to be taking any sort of risk on though.

[nickpan]

anonymous said:

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Cheers. Seem to remember from my 996 days that the bigger the engine, the higher probably of bore scoring, while the earlier the car, the higher the probability of getting one with a dual row IMS. Not sure if this applies to Boxster’s but If it does, I’ll take less power over more reliability if I find a well looked after example.

[shalmaneser]

Bluedot said:

shalmaneser said:

minimoog said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Given a rebuild could be 1x-2x the cost of the car again at that price point (if paying a specialist that is) I'm struggling to see how the man maffs works out on this kind of prospect.

What am I missing? Are there men in sheds who can rebuild a flat six more attractively than just buying a car that already works as it should? Can you buy a used working engine and sell the borked one as spares or repair to make the sums stack up?

The knock on the most recently posted car supposedly goes away above 2.5k rpm. It could well just be the variocam being knackered, which I believe can be fixed with the engine in the car and repaired with second hand bits. Doable for the home gamer.

The older car with bore scoring...well you could be looking at £10k for a hartech rebuild, assuming you deliver them the engine on a pallet and the borkage isn't too massive. Then you've got a very nice Caymen for pretty good money.

It's tight, no question, so the question really is, do you feel lucky?

My concern is that the seller has either had the noise investigated and found it be an expensive fix and is now just playing innocent or they don't want to spend money on someone taking a look which would mean I'd then question how well it's been looked after.
Obviously there's a chance they've looked after it well but have now just run out of money and can't afford to have it looked at.
Seems over priced to me to be taking any sort of risk on though.

Don't get me wrong it's not how I would choose to get into some pork but that's the rationale/man maths as I understand it. And I can see the appeal to an extent. Maybe OK with someone who has an empty garage and is looking for a bit of a project, or even a dealer who pushes this sort of stuff through their workshop regularly.

It comes down to the level or risk you're willing to take on I guess, personally I am happy to buy from private sellers and am happy to wait for the right car to come along, others wouldn't countenance that and only buy from recognised dealers with a warranty. Still others only buy cars new and move it on after three years as it's a liability.....

[ATM]

shalmaneser said:

Bluedot said:

shalmaneser said:

minimoog said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Given a rebuild could be 1x-2x the cost of the car again at that price point (if paying a specialist that is) I'm struggling to see how the man maffs works out on this kind of prospect.

What am I missing? Are there men in sheds who can rebuild a flat six more attractively than just buying a car that already works as it should? Can you buy a used working engine and sell the borked one as spares or repair to make the sums stack up?

The knock on the most recently posted car supposedly goes away above 2.5k rpm. It could well just be the variocam being knackered, which I believe can be fixed with the engine in the car and repaired with second hand bits. Doable for the home gamer.

The older car with bore scoring...well you could be looking at £10k for a hartech rebuild, assuming you deliver them the engine on a pallet and the borkage isn't too massive. Then you've got a very nice Caymen for pretty good money.

It's tight, no question, so the question really is, do you feel lucky?

My concern is that the seller has either had the noise investigated and found it be an expensive fix and is now just playing innocent or they don't want to spend money on someone taking a look which would mean I'd then question how well it's been looked after.
Obviously there's a chance they've looked after it well but have now just run out of money and can't afford to have it looked at.
Seems over priced to me to be taking any sort of risk on though.

Don't get me wrong it's not how I would choose to get into some pork but that's the rationale/man maths as I understand it. And I can see the appeal to an extent. Maybe OK with someone who has an empty garage and is looking for a bit of a project, or even a dealer who pushes this sort of stuff through their workshop regularly.

It comes down to the level or risk you're willing to take on I guess, personally I am happy to buy from private sellers and am happy to wait for the right car to come along, others wouldn't countenance that and only buy from recognised dealers with a warranty. Still others only buy cars new and move it on after three years as it's a liability.....

Currently 7100 which seems very high for a car needing an engine rebuild. Maybe its worth nearer to 12 best case with a fresh engine. So yes it must only appeal to workshop owners who have staff sat around doing nothing or with periods of inactivity which needs occupying productively. I am a bit of an old sceptic so I always presume there is some kind of fiddle going on. It has just been serviced so whats to stop someone buying it and the adding a private warranty of some sort. Maybe adding some thick oil and then selling it on as working fine. I'm clearly not criminally minded enough to figure it out definitively so I am just guessing.

[nickpan]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Excellent - thank you. Condition condition condition then!

[shalmaneser]

ATM said:

shalmaneser said:

Bluedot said:

shalmaneser said:

minimoog said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Given a rebuild could be 1x-2x the cost of the car again at that price point (if paying a specialist that is) I'm struggling to see how the man maffs works out on this kind of prospect.

What am I missing? Are there men in sheds who can rebuild a flat six more attractively than just buying a car that already works as it should? Can you buy a used working engine and sell the borked one as spares or repair to make the sums stack up?

The knock on the most recently posted car supposedly goes away above 2.5k rpm. It could well just be the variocam being knackered, which I believe can be fixed with the engine in the car and repaired with second hand bits. Doable for the home gamer.

The older car with bore scoring...well you could be looking at £10k for a hartech rebuild, assuming you deliver them the engine on a pallet and the borkage isn't too massive. Then you've got a very nice Caymen for pretty good money.

It's tight, no question, so the question really is, do you feel lucky?

My concern is that the seller has either had the noise investigated and found it be an expensive fix and is now just playing innocent or they don't want to spend money on someone taking a look which would mean I'd then question how well it's been looked after.
Obviously there's a chance they've looked after it well but have now just run out of money and can't afford to have it looked at.
Seems over priced to me to be taking any sort of risk on though.

Don't get me wrong it's not how I would choose to get into some pork but that's the rationale/man maths as I understand it. And I can see the appeal to an extent. Maybe OK with someone who has an empty garage and is looking for a bit of a project, or even a dealer who pushes this sort of stuff through their workshop regularly.

It comes down to the level or risk you're willing to take on I guess, personally I am happy to buy from private sellers and am happy to wait for the right car to come along, others wouldn't countenance that and only buy from recognised dealers with a warranty. Still others only buy cars new and move it on after three years as it's a liability.....

Currently 7100 which seems very high for a car needing an engine rebuild. Maybe its worth nearer to 12 best case with a fresh engine. So yes it must only appeal to workshop owners who have staff sat around doing nothing or with periods of inactivity which needs occupying productively. I am a bit of an old sceptic so I always presume there is some kind of fiddle going on. It has just been serviced so whats to stop someone buying it and the adding a private warranty of some sort. Maybe adding some thick oil and then selling it on as working fine. I'm clearly not criminally minded enough to figure it out definitively so I am just guessing.

Agreed 7100 is getting way too spicy. Its interesting with knackered Porsches (maybe other cars, I'm just aware of the Porsches) that a knackered engine and an Ebay listing does funny things to people's minds. Maybe it encourages the dreamers who convince themselves they're getting a great deal?

For a grand more (maybe less with some haggling) you could get this very nice Boxster:

https://ebay.us/YkUASB

Or for 10k you can get into a non broken (but dodgy listing for sure) Caymen:

https://ebay.us/rUrgbp

Just 3k off the going rate for a car with a known engine problem is pretty mad.

[ATM]

shalmaneser said:

ATM said:

shalmaneser said:

Bluedot said:

shalmaneser said:

minimoog said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Given a rebuild could be 1x-2x the cost of the car again at that price point (if paying a specialist that is) I'm struggling to see how the man maffs works out on this kind of prospect.

What am I missing? Are there men in sheds who can rebuild a flat six more attractively than just buying a car that already works as it should? Can you buy a used working engine and sell the borked one as spares or repair to make the sums stack up?

The knock on the most recently posted car supposedly goes away above 2.5k rpm. It could well just be the variocam being knackered, which I believe can be fixed with the engine in the car and repaired with second hand bits. Doable for the home gamer.

The older car with bore scoring...well you could be looking at £10k for a hartech rebuild, assuming you deliver them the engine on a pallet and the borkage isn't too massive. Then you've got a very nice Caymen for pretty good money.

It's tight, no question, so the question really is, do you feel lucky?

My concern is that the seller has either had the noise investigated and found it be an expensive fix and is now just playing innocent or they don't want to spend money on someone taking a look which would mean I'd then question how well it's been looked after.
Obviously there's a chance they've looked after it well but have now just run out of money and can't afford to have it looked at.
Seems over priced to me to be taking any sort of risk on though.

Don't get me wrong it's not how I would choose to get into some pork but that's the rationale/man maths as I understand it. And I can see the appeal to an extent. Maybe OK with someone who has an empty garage and is looking for a bit of a project, or even a dealer who pushes this sort of stuff through their workshop regularly.

It comes down to the level or risk you're willing to take on I guess, personally I am happy to buy from private sellers and am happy to wait for the right car to come along, others wouldn't countenance that and only buy from recognised dealers with a warranty. Still others only buy cars new and move it on after three years as it's a liability.....

Currently 7100 which seems very high for a car needing an engine rebuild. Maybe its worth nearer to 12 best case with a fresh engine. So yes it must only appeal to workshop owners who have staff sat around doing nothing or with periods of inactivity which needs occupying productively. I am a bit of an old sceptic so I always presume there is some kind of fiddle going on. It has just been serviced so whats to stop someone buying it and the adding a private warranty of some sort. Maybe adding some thick oil and then selling it on as working fine. I'm clearly not criminally minded enough to figure it out definitively so I am just guessing.

Agreed 7100 is getting way too spicy. Its interesting with knackered Porsches (maybe other cars, I'm just aware of the Porsches) that a knackered engine and an Ebay listing does funny things to people's minds. Maybe it encourages the dreamers who convince themselves they're getting a great deal?

For a grand more (maybe less with some haggling) you could get this very nice Boxster:

https://ebay.us/YkUASB

Or for 10k you can get into a non broken (but dodgy listing for sure) Caymen:

https://ebay.us/rUrgbp

Just 3k off the going rate for a car with a known engine problem is pretty mad.

Didn't someone post a link to classic car site listing of a Cayman s with hartech rebuild for 12?

[danp]

ATM said:

Didn't someone post a link to classic car site listing of a Cayman s with hartech rebuild for 12?

I didn’t post it but this was it:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1213258