Porsche Macan

[OggyDJ]

anonymous said:

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Yes I have....it was impassable . It was exactly why we bought our first SUV (BMW X3).

My point is only, some people REALLY need an SUV and if you like Porsches, why not a Cayenne or Macan ?

[Sandy59]

I'd agree 2wd with winters can be very impressive, and perfectly adequate for most winter driving in normal snowy proper roads.

But they generally don't have the underbody clearance to go anywhere with any decent amount of snow, so extra clearance plus 4wd on winters is about as good as you can get.

On the Macan, there's no doubt it will be another winner for Porsche, at least it's not bland looking like the comparable Audis.

[Budweiser]

We have just bought a LandRover Freelander as a family car to go with the C4S. With lots of goodies that ran out at just over £40k before discount and worth every penny for us. As Much as I love Porsche I'm not sure I would pay £50k odd? Will reserve my final judgement after I've seen and driven one.

[Budweiser]

Ooooops no idea how that happened.....

[smiffy555]

Christ - them Land Rovers are bloody excellent ain't they - it's stuck to the roof!!

[Junior Bianno]

Nope...sorry. Some good arguments for, but not good enough

Similar arguments were made for the Evoque, and that remains probably the most hateful car on the planet.

There are any number of cars/SUVs out there that fulfil the brief of family duties and winter driving, and a badge engineered Audi with a little diesel engine doesn't float my boat I'm afraid. My Disco with air suspension can go just about anywhere, carry things like a van can, and still cruise around town and motorways in perfect comfort...and from the sounds of it wouldn't cost a lot more than the Macan.

But I still understand why Porsche are making them, and I agree they will sell shedloads (unfortunately)

[SalesManager]

Without the Cayenne and Panamera the UK dealers would be sunk. They need Macan.

They cant sell 991, Boxsters are hard and the Cayman also. They are already discounting the new Turbo.

[sidicks]

Junior Bianno said:

There are any number of cars/SUVs out there that fulfil the brief of family duties and winter driving, and a badge engineered Audi with a little diesel engine doesn't float my boat I'm afraid. My Disco with air suspension can go just about anywhere, carry things like a van can, and still cruise around town and motorways in perfect comfort...and from the sounds of it wouldn't cost a lot more than the Macan.

But the Macan won't handle like a shed on wheels, which is a key point for Porsche drivers!?,

[Triple7]

Bit disappointed it looks like a baby Cayenne, excited about 4cyl turbo's, and a plug in hybrid. Keep the price including options below £50k please for a totr Macan.....

[OggyDJ]

anonymous said:

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Middle class trinkets

When I had one of the early Boxsters, my agent referred to it as a "Rich bhes Porsche". So I guess this label could easily be applied to any Porsche ??

Why always so negative ?? Please, when they are released....go and drive one and then give us all the benefit of your unbiased, expert opinion and analysis.

Never realised we were middle class or that I obviously didn't care how cars drive. Well, every day is a learning experience I guess

[sidicks]

anonymous said:

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And there was me thinking there was a credible middle ground between "Sports car" and "shed on wheels"....

[Junior Bianno]

sidicks said:

Junior Bianno said:

There are any number of cars/SUVs out there that fulfil the brief of family duties and winter driving, and a badge engineered Audi with a little diesel engine doesn't float my boat I'm afraid. My Disco with air suspension can go just about anywhere, carry things like a van can, and still cruise around town and motorways in perfect comfort...and from the sounds of it wouldn't cost a lot more than the Macan.

But the Macan won't handle like a shed on wheels, which is a key point for Porsche drivers!?,

It's a compromise, and not a very good one. Don't kid yourself you're going to get anything approaching sports car performance. When I'm in a big truck I could care less about handling. Comfort is key.

Anyway - I've got a turbo for going round corners etc.

[sidicks]

Junior Bianno said:

It's a compromise, and not a very good one.

Oh, so you've extensively driven the Macan? And it's not as if the Cayenne gets bad reviews!

Junior Bianno said:

Don't kid yourself you're going to get anything approaching sports car performance. When I'm in a big truck I could care less about handling. Comfort is key.

What you care about and what I (and many other people) care about are clearly different!

Junior Bianno said:

Anyway - I've got a turbo for going round corners etc.

And I'll have a new GT3 - not sure of your point though.
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[Carl_Docklands]

I dont have a problem with the macan as a concept, it's just that the earlier leaked drawings showed so much promise and now it appears we are left with a car which has a rear end with as much sexual tension as Claire Raynors arse cheeks.

[chrispmartha]

Junior Bianno said:

It's a compromise, and not a very good one. Don't kid yourself you're going to get anything approaching sports car performance. When I'm in a big truck I could care less about handling. Comfort is key.

Anyway - I've got a turbo for going round corners etc.

Couldn't care less, not could, that Americanisation does not make sense.

Pedant mode off.

[red_slr]

Junior Bianno said:

sidicks said:

Junior Bianno said:

There are any number of cars/SUVs out there that fulfil the brief of family duties and winter driving, and a badge engineered Audi with a little diesel engine doesn't float my boat I'm afraid. My Disco with air suspension can go just about anywhere, carry things like a van can, and still cruise around town and motorways in perfect comfort...and from the sounds of it wouldn't cost a lot more than the Macan.

But the Macan won't handle like a shed on wheels, which is a key point for Porsche drivers!?,

It's a compromise, and not a very good one. Don't kid yourself you're going to get anything approaching sports car performance. When I'm in a big truck I could care less about handling. Comfort is key.

Anyway - I've got a turbo for going round corners etc.

But who really cares about its point to point pace - most serious drivers who own a Macan probably have several other cars. I will more than likely order one in November - if I want to go *really* fast then I have a car for that... those customers who are not serious drivers wont care about its performance and will probably think its the fastest car on earth.

For me its a smaller version of the Cayenne - we don't need a ma-hoosive SUV. We sold our Range Rover last year - it was like driving a boat. Nice car, but for us city folk - no thanks.

[red_slr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb-kkghcvxg

Fairly sure there are 4 different cars in this vid.

Can also hear a couple of different gear boxes...

[GBR1]

Carl_Docklands said:

I dont have a problem with the macan as a concept, it's just that the earlier leaked drawings showed so much promise and now it appears we are left with a car which has a rear end with as much sexual tension as Claire Raynors arse cheeks.

Agree 100%. If it looks good I would by one, going on the release pics the other day, probably not! I love Porsche and I think the current range of Boxter, Cayman and 991 are all good looking cars but the Cayenne and Macan look pretty bad!!

[bompey]

If I were to put a deposit down now for a Macan does anyone know when delivery would be likely? I'm close to entering a 2 year lease on a mercedes but want to know whether I should join the queue now for the macan when it ends.

Any ideas?

bompey

[Technomad]

I've just been through the whole business of choosing another (s/h) 4x4 and I'm very happy that I have something that doesn't handle like a sports car - my 911 does that very well thanks and it's not what I'm looking for in an all-seasons DD. That said, time at the wheel needs to be quality time and that does not mean wallowing along the twisties like an underdamped blancmange - I test drove most of the main contenders and things very rapidly came down to either the Cayenne or the X5 (I don't like the interior build quality on the X3/X1 and the Q3/Q5 feel more like high quality white goods - beautifully made, but just not that interesting to drive). The Cayenne is, by some margin, the highest quality vehicle, both in terms of build and to drive (with the PASM/air suspension), but the X5 comes closest and - for an 18-month to two-year-old car, very usefully cheaper. Most of the time we don't however need the space of the X5 class cars so I'm thinking that I got the X5 at a good enough price that a trade-in for a Macan in a year or so might be a good deal. From launch, the Macan will probably be the most depreciation-proof car on the road and, if it comes with the 3.0 diesel (single or twin turbo) and proper PASM/air it should be a really good drive. Again, not a sports car but a damn fine, well-balanced vehicle. Once you get over the fact of Porsche producing any SUV at all (and it took me until the Mk 2 Cayenne), the fact that they do it properly and bring good driving dynamics to the VAG platforms is to be welcomed, IMHO. I also happen to think that the current Cayenne is the best looking SUV out there - the Macan a slightly shrunk version of same and perhaps a little bland.

Edited by Technomad on Sunday 8th September 13:32