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bompey said:
the porsche micro site for the macan is today saying 01 day to the unveiling. does anyone know if the date has been brought forward?
Interesting, I haven't heard as such. Someone on 6SO forum has posted a leaked techspec sheet.... in Mandarin/Cantonese (I have no idea) perhaps someone can translate?http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/attachment.php?...
Diesel S costs less than the petrol S perhaps? Which is different to how cayenne S pricing works. 18" standard rims for 6 cyls 19" for turbo, therefore guessing will be 17"s for the 4 cylinders
3.0 V6 for both S models, 340bhp and 460Nm plays 258bhp and 580Nm petrol vs diesel. Turbo is what we already know here and has PASM as standard
ETA Trying to spot any clues as to transmission, I'm going to go out on a limb and say PDK across the board as rumoured for the larger engines. In the bottom stack of specs, above PTM, I can only assume it says PDK with the P chopped off in the picture
Edited by Fezzaman on Sunday 10th November 11:06
So, given there is not going to be much between the Diesel and the S in terms of price, which is going to be more desirabale say 18 months down the line?
I really want the turbo but I doubt its going to be much less than £70k - which is £10k beyond my max spend. In terms of re-sale I would think the Diesel?
I really want the turbo but I doubt its going to be much less than £70k - which is £10k beyond my max spend. In terms of re-sale I would think the Diesel?
red_slr said:
So, given there is not going to be much between the Diesel and the S in terms of price, which is going to be more desirabale say 18 months down the line?
I really want the turbo but I doubt its going to be much less than £70k - which is £10k beyond my max spend. In terms of re-sale I would think the Diesel?
Definitely the Diesel. The petrol will be more fun and faster but depreciation is always a lot less with Diesel variants.I really want the turbo but I doubt its going to be much less than £70k - which is £10k beyond my max spend. In terms of re-sale I would think the Diesel?
bompey said:
anyone who's looking at the list price to decide which model to get better factor in the 10-15kin extras required to get any Porsche to reasonable spec.
Hence my budget of £60k. Although, I think its going to come in a lot less than that - even with options.I think Porsche are going to do their best to keep a reasonable spec car at less than 50 grand. Because as soon as you go over 50k you start to look at what else is out there for that kind of money - and the answer is the Cayenne. Or RRS.
)I think the macan pricing will surprise. Porsche want to sell 70,000 units and most of that will come from Evoke, Q5, X3 buyers. Even though the Macan will subjectively offer more and can achieve a premium, I doubt that premium is that much-10% max like for like.
A decent X3 3.0d is around £45K with a good spec. I can't see the Macan 3.0D going over 50k with a good spec. The petrol S up to 55k merely because some of the expensive dynamic aids may be required due to additional performance. My call is £65k for the turbo, well spec'd. Let's not forget the SQ5 and X3 35d will spank the macan equivalent (maybe not dynamically but headline figures!) and these two sit at about 50kish well spec'd.
A decent X3 3.0d is around £45K with a good spec. I can't see the Macan 3.0D going over 50k with a good spec. The petrol S up to 55k merely because some of the expensive dynamic aids may be required due to additional performance. My call is £65k for the turbo, well spec'd. Let's not forget the SQ5 and X3 35d will spank the macan equivalent (maybe not dynamically but headline figures!) and these two sit at about 50kish well spec'd.
bompey said:
I am told £43k for the Diesel S. Add 20 or 21 inch wheels, air suspension, sat nav, pano roof, metallic paint and you'll be at 50k!
I guess it's all speculation at the moment but is there a diesel and a diesel S at launch?I would have thought the Diesel S would have the SQ5 engine??
GBR1
Edited by GBR1 on Tuesday 12th November 17:30
GBR1 said:
I guess it's all speculation at the moment but is there a diesel and a diesel S at launch?
I would have thought the Diesel S would have the SQ5 engine??
Yes, speculation on my part as well, but from the limited info on the web the SQ5 engine will not be available at launch. My guess is that after the initial rush to buy they will launch it in a couple of years time to re-kindle interest and maybe even with more power to go after the Alpina XD3 - the 350bhp diesel X3.I would have thought the Diesel S would have the SQ5 engine??
bompey said:
I am told £43k for the Diesel S. Add 20 or 21 inch wheels, air suspension, sat nav, pano roof, metallic paint and you'll be at 50k!
This. Don't forget stuff like parking sensors, possibly auto tailgate and heated seats which some consider to be 'essentials'. I really want and hope it will come in at sub 50, but I fear Porsche will want you to compare across S models in Cayenne and Macan, not the entry level cayenne - which should be compared with the forthcoming 4 cylinders (especially when you compare the headline performance stats for the Macan if true). FWIW, the microsite list combined fuel economy between 30.7 to 46.3 across petrol & diesel - at those kind of figures petrol doesn't seem that bad a bet given the performance on offer from a SUV. Besides diesel is the work of the devil :PThe Turbo looks like a great shout! If a reasonbly optioned one came in at £65k, that's a nigh on perfect motor for me! That RSQ3 has similare performance, a great EVO review and came in at £50k full optioned, so massively more than that (£65k for the Turbo) wouldn't be great in my opinion and would have you looking at other, cheaper options or just larger cars.
J-P said:
The Turbo looks like a great shout! If a reasonbly optioned one came in at £65k, that's a nigh on perfect motor for me! That RSQ3 has similare performance, a great EVO review and came in at £50k full optioned, so massively more than that (£65k for the Turbo) wouldn't be great in my opinion and would have you looking at other, cheaper options or just larger cars.
I suspect you are £10-£20k optimistic on this, but hope I'm wrong!The turbo is always going to be mega money. Look at the Cayenne. Diesel is £47k base, the Turbo £90k. Thats £43k in the difference!
Same car of course, but my god thats one heck of a jump. Dont even look at the Turbo S.. 2.3 x the price of the base car.
I could see the Macan Turbo being the best part of 80 large..
Same car of course, but my god thats one heck of a jump. Dont even look at the Turbo S.. 2.3 x the price of the base car.
I could see the Macan Turbo being the best part of 80 large..
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