149,000 miles 993 TT £35,000
Discussion
The guy only has to sell it once, so I wouldn`t hold your breath with £25k!!!
As has been quite rightly said you buy on condition. The number on the speedo has absolutely no relation to the amount of work a car`s done it will affect the price you ask for the car though and only time will tell how far out this chap is.
An interesting comparison of 2 cars we`ve dealt with recently : a pair of 968 cabs, don`t get many so odd to see two within a couple of weeks, a 65K grey tiptronic. Happy it hasn`t been clocked but a really tired car. Drove it and wasn`t happy, some odd noises in the background, wasn`t a dear car but discretion being the better part etc decided to let it go. Then yesterday we got offered a 95k manual car, (I only mention the g/box as you`d have thought the tip would have enjoyed a more relaxed life), what a lovely genuine car that`s done very little "work". Nice and fresh inside drives a treat and very happy when the guy delivered it round this afternoon. Fancy that a 95k mile car knocking spots of a 65k miler.
Now consider this :
T4 at 40-45k miles sells for around £50k
T4 at 73k miles sells for £38k.
In 25k miles you`ve lost £10-12k on the lower mileage car - that`s assuming it hasn`t depreciated at all - (only accounting for the premium you paid for the miles).
The other car ? How long would that queue be if you stuck it in the rag for £26 - £28k !! In reallity it would probably still make close to £35k.
Rest assured the maintenence costs on both cars would be almost identical. When Porsche (or any manufacturer), refer to jobs being carried out at say 48k miles they always add (or 4 years), with good cause. Both those T4`s in the example are the same age.
Not only that but if common sense prevails, and you choose to purchase said car from a dealer isn`t it nice to know you can always phone the hard working honest chap up when you`ve had your fun and he`ll buy the car back off you. One of my big gripes with the (predominantly main dealer), crowd selling "low k`s nearly new cars are those immortal words when you offer them back the car they swore blind was the best thing since the invention of the wheel, "I`m sorry sir it`s too old / done too many miles for us - we wouldn`t touch it with a barge pole".
There is another option - buy your car then put it in the garage and never use it.
Henry.
PS if you`re short of something to do on Sunday there`s a great day out at the Uxbridge Auto show on the middlesex showground. Look hard and you`ll see a little ray of orange GT3 sunshine tucked away in the corner somehwere, If you can`t see it wait until it fires up, we`re running the exhaust system for Spa and Le Mans!! (Also dusting off the `23 Delahaye. Shit I don`t even know how many miles it`s done - I must be mad !!).
>> Edited by henry-F on Friday 16th July 23:25
As has been quite rightly said you buy on condition. The number on the speedo has absolutely no relation to the amount of work a car`s done it will affect the price you ask for the car though and only time will tell how far out this chap is.
An interesting comparison of 2 cars we`ve dealt with recently : a pair of 968 cabs, don`t get many so odd to see two within a couple of weeks, a 65K grey tiptronic. Happy it hasn`t been clocked but a really tired car. Drove it and wasn`t happy, some odd noises in the background, wasn`t a dear car but discretion being the better part etc decided to let it go. Then yesterday we got offered a 95k manual car, (I only mention the g/box as you`d have thought the tip would have enjoyed a more relaxed life), what a lovely genuine car that`s done very little "work". Nice and fresh inside drives a treat and very happy when the guy delivered it round this afternoon. Fancy that a 95k mile car knocking spots of a 65k miler.
Now consider this :
T4 at 40-45k miles sells for around £50k
T4 at 73k miles sells for £38k.
In 25k miles you`ve lost £10-12k on the lower mileage car - that`s assuming it hasn`t depreciated at all - (only accounting for the premium you paid for the miles).
The other car ? How long would that queue be if you stuck it in the rag for £26 - £28k !! In reallity it would probably still make close to £35k.
Rest assured the maintenence costs on both cars would be almost identical. When Porsche (or any manufacturer), refer to jobs being carried out at say 48k miles they always add (or 4 years), with good cause. Both those T4`s in the example are the same age.
Not only that but if common sense prevails, and you choose to purchase said car from a dealer isn`t it nice to know you can always phone the hard working honest chap up when you`ve had your fun and he`ll buy the car back off you. One of my big gripes with the (predominantly main dealer), crowd selling "low k`s nearly new cars are those immortal words when you offer them back the car they swore blind was the best thing since the invention of the wheel, "I`m sorry sir it`s too old / done too many miles for us - we wouldn`t touch it with a barge pole".
There is another option - buy your car then put it in the garage and never use it.
Henry.
PS if you`re short of something to do on Sunday there`s a great day out at the Uxbridge Auto show on the middlesex showground. Look hard and you`ll see a little ray of orange GT3 sunshine tucked away in the corner somehwere, If you can`t see it wait until it fires up, we`re running the exhaust system for Spa and Le Mans!! (Also dusting off the `23 Delahaye. Shit I don`t even know how many miles it`s done - I must be mad !!).
>> Edited by henry-F on Friday 16th July 23:25
I LOL'dOne thing has me really confused.
In my younger days....ha ha. I used to build large Diesel engines, for the high speed trains and the like. We always fitted these with engine running hours gauges, because the amount of time is important.....Question is though, why don't cars have a engine running hours gauge? you could then as a buyer differentiate mileage with hours running, it would then surely indicate what was the better buy? if low miles and high hours, city runner with issues ahead...or am I heading down a cul-de-sac?
kevin
In my younger days....ha ha. I used to build large Diesel engines, for the high speed trains and the like. We always fitted these with engine running hours gauges, because the amount of time is important.....Question is though, why don't cars have a engine running hours gauge? you could then as a buyer differentiate mileage with hours running, it would then surely indicate what was the better buy? if low miles and high hours, city runner with issues ahead...or am I heading down a cul-de-sac?
kevin
Actually, the 993 series do have an engine hours gauge! If you ask your service chap nicely to take a look the next time they plug in their OBD diagnostic machine, it will tell you the hours!
My 993TT has 38K miles and has run for around 1300 hours. That's an average speed of 29 MPH. Hardly need 400BHP for that!
My 993TT has 38K miles and has run for around 1300 hours. That's an average speed of 29 MPH. Hardly need 400BHP for that!
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