Speeding and limits
Discussion
YEs there are many trucks in Germany but many more travel by rail. When I was in Austria, trains ran regularly overnight transporting HGVs from one end of the country to the other - about a 8 hour drive by road.
Generally the road on the continent in the towns and cities are much wider and so gives the feeling of more space. Leads to a more relaxed style of driving in general. They don't build on every square centimeter as in the SE of the UK.
Very few speed humps on side roads. Also use of one way systems in the back streets off the main roads is a great idea. It means if you have double parking, the road doesn't get blocked when two cars meet head to head.
Generally the road on the continent in the towns and cities are much wider and so gives the feeling of more space. Leads to a more relaxed style of driving in general. They don't build on every square centimeter as in the SE of the UK.
Very few speed humps on side roads. Also use of one way systems in the back streets off the main roads is a great idea. It means if you have double parking, the road doesn't get blocked when two cars meet head to head.
The problem is that yes cars have got alot better but unfortunatly the people driving them havent and their reaction times remain the same if not worse, coupled with a greater speed limit and the stopping distances probably stay the same.
Valid point about idiots at low speed pulling from the middle lane into the right hand lane, may be each lane should have a minimum speed limit on it as well as a maximum that would control the slow overtaking lorries that polute the motorways. You would have to have the odd over taking sections along motorways that the lorries could then legally overtake on.
Or why not introduce another part of the test covering advanced driving and motorway driving, you simply wouldn't be able to use the motorways until you had shown a higher level of driving than on the normal test, this could be used for reduced insurace premiums etc.....
Valid point about idiots at low speed pulling from the middle lane into the right hand lane, may be each lane should have a minimum speed limit on it as well as a maximum that would control the slow overtaking lorries that polute the motorways. You would have to have the odd over taking sections along motorways that the lorries could then legally overtake on.
Or why not introduce another part of the test covering advanced driving and motorway driving, you simply wouldn't be able to use the motorways until you had shown a higher level of driving than on the normal test, this could be used for reduced insurace premiums etc.....
Some responses on this thread have recommend "tweaks" to the road law, new limits, zoning etc Sensible as they are for anyone with an IQ over 120 I am afraid in the world of today legislators are scared of complexity as simpletons find it baffling so 0% chance of speed limits by lane no matter how sensible it is.
In the People's Republic of Brunstromia also known as N Wales the average speed of traffic everywhere is much lower with no concomitant accident reductions. Road rage is up by a fair bit because on all the A roads you will find people too frightened to attempt any kind of overtake and desperately worryingly if someone overtakes a long vehicle that you have been following for say ten miles at 20 - 30 mph (or a knot of slow moving sheep) the overtaker, often aware of an unmarked scamera van possibly being present restriucts the overtake speed to no more than 60mph. Result a long time on the wromg side of the road. And that, my friends, ain't healthy.
Also, are we that stupid that we cannot drive like our Teutonic brothers? I've driven on derestricted Autobhans that made the A55 look like a pedigree race track and I'll tell you where I've seen the most dangerous, inconsiderate numbskulls and it isn't Germany.
To those of you who may suggest N. Wales police headquarters full marks but I meant British roads generally and the A55 in particular.
Also, are we that stupid that we cannot drive like our Teutonic brothers? I've driven on derestricted Autobhans that made the A55 look like a pedigree race track and I'll tell you where I've seen the most dangerous, inconsiderate numbskulls and it isn't Germany.
To those of you who may suggest N. Wales police headquarters full marks but I meant British roads generally and the A55 in particular.
Melv said:
Mind you, just the same on track -remember that red turbo at Combe, Henry/Iguana????
Cripes yes, that was a close one could indeed have been pretty darn nasty.
Turbo driver was no doubt a track novice- no excuse for pulling right out of the pit lane & then swerving totally accross the track & literally right into the path of the Merkin wagon which was really not hanging about.
However Turbo man may have been a complete tit, but it was the DynoRod Firman wagon belting up the pit lane at mach 2- like he was late for a U bend unblocking or somat, that got matey all scared & he darted across the track to get out of the way & thus was the cause of the very near insident.
Bad driving from both could have been curtains for Melv, that is if he didnt have cat like reflexes honed by years of catching the stray spingy natural fibres that go into his merkins construction
ps earlier post (silverTT?) recomending 45mph on main roads??? don't you enjoy driving or something? the twisty A & B & unclassifed roads are the best bits of tarmac in out country, make 'em 45mph & anyone with an interest in driving might as well take the bus.
60mph is fine as at say speed quick enough to have a bit of fun ie 80-90 if you are unlucky enough to get caught its points and a wrist slap, at a 45mph limit you would be doing double the limit & bye bye licence & posibly prison time for doing what im sure we all do if you do say 120-130 ish regually.
Im all up for tight & policed limits in villages when the halfwits just bomb through, but please dont mess with our A, B & unclassifeds.
I can't see a decent high speed or derestricted speed limit ever working in the UK, the general standard of driving in the UK is abysmal & unfortunatly I just dont think it could ever work. There does seem a much better understanding of speed & lane disipline in Europe & not just Germany.
iguana said:
Im all up for tight & policed limits in villages when the halfwits just bomb through but please dont mess with our A, B & unclassifeds.
I can't see a decent high speed or derestricted speed limit ever working in the UK...the general standard of driving in the UK is abysmal...There does seem a much better understanding of speed & lane disipline in Europe...
Vermin, you see.
In the good old days, parochial fuedalism ensured the urchins rarely left the paddock of their birthplace, much less the field into which their lifelong toils were directed.
The concept of granting access to realms beyond the furthest lick of the squire's cat to the shed dwellers is a concept that has surely contributed more than any other to the unravelling of Empire.
And for what? So some great grandson of a ploughman can eat an ice cream at Scarborough Fair? How ridiculous; will the gibberings of the libroweenies never abate?
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