High mileage Cayennes???
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Hi,hi -miler Cayenne question..
My 06 MY "S" has been reliable so far(from new) touch wood,had coolant pipes done under extended warranty after they failed,she has now done 114k miles and has no current maladies at all except for occasional coil packs,my dealer extended warranty runs out in November and I want to keep the car as it is great still and would cost a fortune to update -for what we use it for now would be silly,it's my last chance to renew the warranty,the car has fairly light duties now,school runs and a few big trips down south a year at 500 mile roundtrip,roughly 10 k a year in total,so should I renew warranty incase of a big engine or gearbox issue or gamble with no warranty..?
I am feeling brave all of a sudden as the thought of paying for the warranty gets closer..but you do get peace of mind...
Be gentle please..
My 06 MY "S" has been reliable so far(from new) touch wood,had coolant pipes done under extended warranty after they failed,she has now done 114k miles and has no current maladies at all except for occasional coil packs,my dealer extended warranty runs out in November and I want to keep the car as it is great still and would cost a fortune to update -for what we use it for now would be silly,it's my last chance to renew the warranty,the car has fairly light duties now,school runs and a few big trips down south a year at 500 mile roundtrip,roughly 10 k a year in total,so should I renew warranty incase of a big engine or gearbox issue or gamble with no warranty..?
I am feeling brave all of a sudden as the thought of paying for the warranty gets closer..but you do get peace of mind...
Be gentle please..
dasherdiablo1 said:
bigee said:
No evidence of any gearbox work to mine either,all OPC,with a FEW more miles.How does it drive? They can sound a bit tappety from under the bonnet,sounds even better with a sports exhaust though!!
Should I worry about the tappety thing? I know 911 virgin are good guys as I've bought and sold through them previously.Edited by dasherdiablo1 on Monday 1st October 22:57
"The big problem is the S's Lokasil cylinder-coating failure. It starts with a sudden appetite for oil and an increasing knock, followed by a misfire as the bores and pistons are shredded. From first signs to death can take as little as 500 miles, and the problem can strike from around 70,000 miles. Turbos and later S models have a Nikasil coating which gives no trouble."
Also how can I find out if the the V8's original plastic coolant pipes under the inlet manifold, have been changed to the later aluminium ones?
Now I'm thinking the V8S should be avoided :O(
Edited by dasherdiablo1 on Wednesday 3rd October 23:11
I'm not aware of any mass suicide pact within the V8 Cayenne family. I have no doubt there will be instances of failures but not on a particularly large scale.
The knocking you hear on engines with bore issues is totally different from the high pitched ticking heard on Cayennes (911s with bore issues also exhibit knocking amongst the signs).
The Cayenne, like any other modern car is a complicated beast compared to something like an old Land Rover from the 1960's but they are not a sum total of their parts. If you list me 5 components you want to see changed I'll give you 20 other bits which could go wrong and cause financial pain. Rather than focus on individual items buy the car as a whole. The wood not a couple of trees.
Finally there isn't a single component on the car which wears based on the number of miles it travels, so to suggest something fails at 70,000 miles is madness. Everything fails due to a combination of age and use. A mile in the middle of town is very different from a 45 second mile in the middle of a long journey on the motorway.
Henry
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The knocking you hear on engines with bore issues is totally different from the high pitched ticking heard on Cayennes (911s with bore issues also exhibit knocking amongst the signs).
The Cayenne, like any other modern car is a complicated beast compared to something like an old Land Rover from the 1960's but they are not a sum total of their parts. If you list me 5 components you want to see changed I'll give you 20 other bits which could go wrong and cause financial pain. Rather than focus on individual items buy the car as a whole. The wood not a couple of trees.
Finally there isn't a single component on the car which wears based on the number of miles it travels, so to suggest something fails at 70,000 miles is madness. Everything fails due to a combination of age and use. A mile in the middle of town is very different from a 45 second mile in the middle of a long journey on the motorway.
Henry
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Edited by Henry-F on Thursday 4th October 10:41
Henry-F said:
I'm not aware of any mass suicide pact within the V8 Cayenne family. I have no doubt there will be instances of failures but not on a particularly large scale.
The knocking you hear on engines with bore issues is totally different from the high pitched ticking heard on Cayennes (911s with bore issues also exhibit knocking amongst the signs).
The Cayenne, like any other modern car is a complicated beast compared to something like an old Land Rover from the 1960's but they are not a sum total of their parts. If you list me 5 components you want to see changed I'll give you 20 other bits which could go wrong and cause financial pain. Rather than focus on individual items buy the car as a whole. The wood not a couple of trees.
Finally there isn't a single component on the car which wears based on the number of miles it travels, so to suggest something fails at 70,000 miles is madness. Everything fails due to a combination of age and use. A mile in the middle of town is very different from a 45 second mile in the middle of a long journey on the motorway.
Henry
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Fully agree with all the above,they are a complicated car,but come on,what car isnt compared to even 10 years ago? Things do and will go wrong/break,but again that is by no means specific to the Cayenne.The knocking you hear on engines with bore issues is totally different from the high pitched ticking heard on Cayennes (911s with bore issues also exhibit knocking amongst the signs).
The Cayenne, like any other modern car is a complicated beast compared to something like an old Land Rover from the 1960's but they are not a sum total of their parts. If you list me 5 components you want to see changed I'll give you 20 other bits which could go wrong and cause financial pain. Rather than focus on individual items buy the car as a whole. The wood not a couple of trees.
Finally there isn't a single component on the car which wears based on the number of miles it travels, so to suggest something fails at 70,000 miles is madness. Everything fails due to a combination of age and use. A mile in the middle of town is very different from a 45 second mile in the middle of a long journey on the motorway.
Henry
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Edited by Henry-F on Thursday 4th October 10:41
Go and look/drive one and take it from there as with ANY vehicle.
dasherdiablo1 said:
DH01 said:
Utter borrox written to help sell their chip wrappers.
Do you have evidence to back this up or are you just spouting off?TVR speed six, Rover k series, E46 M3 lump, Esprit V8, 996 3.2, F355 V8 2.7 motronic etc. etc. .. yep for sure.
Cayenne V8 ... errr nope.
If there was a widespread (or even miniscule) problem then the internet would know about it, so would the pitlane, the pubs and the petrolhead meeting places up and down the country. But honestly, I know of 1 cayenne failure in almost 10 years. That's several less than the 997 GT3 failures I know about which is a car that is not only supposed to be unburstable but also exists in tiny tiny numbers compared to the SUV.
So in summary ... 'borrox'.
I bought an 06 4.5S six months ago. Full service history, and only 45,000 miles. The cost? £14.5k. Absolutely delighted with it, use it for everything. I think that the mpg means even low mileage ones can be found at a reasonable price, if you're quick! Got it from a Land Rover dealer who had px'd it when selling a RR Sport, so it got a six month (unused) warranty.
Not too bothered about the mpg as only do 6,500 miles a year so it could take me quite a few years to get to 100k. My partner at work spotted it in PH classifieds because I was looking at 100k mileage Touregs which were selling for not much less than I paid, then I started reading the forums and six months later this is my very first post! Greetings gentlemen!
I need to work out how to use the smileys........
Not too bothered about the mpg as only do 6,500 miles a year so it could take me quite a few years to get to 100k. My partner at work spotted it in PH classifieds because I was looking at 100k mileage Touregs which were selling for not much less than I paid, then I started reading the forums and six months later this is my very first post! Greetings gentlemen!
I need to work out how to use the smileys........
jonny996 said:
If the issues EVO says the V8 cars have bothers you, why not look at the V6.
You will get people on here saying it's not got the power, but for me it has been fine.
The 3.2 V6 Cayenne is a very different driving experience. It is underpowered to the point where the first time you drive one you are quite taken aback, you have to work very hard just to keep up with traffic. It feels a very normal car indeed to the point where some might question whether it's worth paying the "Porsche" premium.You will get people on here saying it's not got the power, but for me it has been fine.
Less likely to have essential options fitted as well.
I'm sure it suffices for some people but it wouldn't be a car I would rush out and buy for myself. The 4.5 V8 never feels lacking and you always have a bit in reserve so drive it more sedately. As a car It feels worth any premium you might be paying.
Air suspension, sat Nav, Tiptronic gearbox and wheels larger than 18 inches are what to aim for. A towbar might help re-sale but more of a bonus than an essential as not that common. A Cayenne with air suspension is the best tow car on the planet bar none !
Henry
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