New Boxter Clunking Steering On Full Lock

New Boxter Clunking Steering On Full Lock

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Ian_UK1

1,514 posts

195 months

Saturday 30th March 2013
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anonymous said:
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You're right that it doesn't just apply to very wide tyres, but it's not JUST caused by geo (albeit geo is the major contributor - the front wheels depart further and further from pure Ackerman geometry as lock increases, meaning they have different turn radii and sideways slippage occurs).

However there IS a contribution purely from the tyres. All tyres would need to be rotating faster on the outside edge than the inside edge when negotiating a turn (were such a thing possible). The outside edge of any tyre is negotiating a wider radius turn by a few inches than the inside edge so there's always some 'wind-up' in the tread blocks. The wider the tyre and tighter the turn, the bigger the discrepancy and the greater the effect.


steve singh

3,995 posts

174 months

Saturday 30th March 2013
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My first 996 never did it, but my second one did...

One as a standard c2 on contis and the one that did it was on m030 suspension (had the aerokit etc.) and pirellis...

Lordbenny

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8,588 posts

220 months

Saturday 30th March 2013
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Just been out for a spin, great car, superbly bolted together, great gadgets, wonderful poise and road holding but not particularly fast compared with what I'm used to, then again not much else on the road is fast compared to a 200bhp Westy!

Mikeyporsche

2 posts

80 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Thank goodness for all your posts on this topic. Recently bought a 2016 981 (Boxster) and was horrified to hear a scrubbing noise on full lock. The Porsche Centre said "they all do that sir" (where have I heard that before) but it seems that they do. Thanks for putting my mind at rest. Thoroughly enjoying the car. I came from an XKR but prefer the Porsche!

George 981

10 posts

62 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Many thanks for posting this, you have brought my blood pressure back down to normal now.

I have had a Porsche Boxster 3.2 986 for 11 happy years and decided last week to go mad and buy a new to me 2013 981 2.7, I have never had anything but a wonderful driving experience with the old one, she has been much loved and much fun.

However the new one is prettier now I think, with its little pinched bottom and the 2.7 had as much power as any of the miserable road cameras or constant roundabouts would allow me, so I was sold.

A little later on wishing to show off my new acquisition to my husband, as we pulled off the drive and took a 90deg right, it did the pinched juddering clunking thing many of you describe, as if you are running over twigs or cobbles or something, we were thinking "WHAT THE FLIP…." thinking I had bought a duffer..( the horror, the possible expense!)

So I am MIGHTILTY relieved to read that this is "Normal" albeit a bit of a warning would have been nice, as it never happened on the old one!

I read its the "ACKERMAN EFFECT" some say cold, wider certain tyres affect this, we also have a Jaguar XKR supercharger and it as never done this...so I still find it odd, given we do have performance cars here but never experienced this before!

Anyway..thanks for this post, saves me a lot of time and worry!

burman

355 posts

214 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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My 64 reg CaymanS does it also my 996 C4s used to but not my Gen2 997C2S also as said its better with higher temperatures both weather and tyre, also mot helping is wheel diameter my Cayman is on 20s.

Bullet-Proof_Biscuit

1,058 posts

78 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Ackerman which causes the inner & outer wheel to point in different directions (turning circles) when on full lock.
They all do it.
'Yeah it makes that sound because it has race car suspension' lol

soxboy

6,280 posts

220 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Glad I stumbled upon this thread. My 987 does this, especially when puling out of the drive when cold. My main concern was that the last time I heard a similar noise on a car I had was on an old BMW, just before the wheel fell off!

Johnd52

101 posts

117 months

Thursday 7th March 2019
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This is worst when tyres are worn, cold and dry, basically where the tyre tread blocks are less flexible and there is plenty of grip. You will notice it far less when the tyres and weather warm up.