Future value of a 996 C4S

[Fokker]

WojaWabbit said:

A new kitchen and bathroom

I'll probably end up with a cheap-ish 986 S to tide me over until finances allow another 911

I feel your pain. I hope you get back into one one day.

Here's my old one https://www.total911.com/lees-996-carrera-diary-up...

[sundayjumper]

WojaWabbit said:

Values seem to be the most common point of discussion in the Pork forums these days, followed closely by Dutch-ruddering GT2/3/RS/R owners competing with spec sheets and the rest whining about unscrupulous OPCs as the can't get in on the flipping action. I bought my 4S thinking it was going to cost me money. Money that should really have been spent on other, more important things. But I was happy to spend the money as it meant I was getting in one of my childhood dream cars and it was as wonderful as I'd always hoped it would be The rising values will unfortunately mean less people getting out and driving them as they were meant to be driven.

This mirrors my experience with my C2. I agree completely.

[WojaWabbit]

Fokker said:

I feel your pain. I hope you get back into one one day.

Here's my old one https://www.total911.com/lees-996-carrera-diary-up...

Lovely, nice history to it as well

[Budflicker]

Driving my C4S this morning, listening to the flat 6 and enjoying the steering feel and thought of this and many other value threads. Which in turn made me smile at how good my car is for what i paid, and also wonder what they would be worth if there was no IMS or bore score issues assosiated with the model?

If the value was based purely on the looks and the drive and 911nish of the car in general i wonder how different things might be?

Off out in it again in a bit for afternoon tea and scones with Mrs Flicker, without any worries about allocations, flippers or letters of intent in sight.

[billzeebub]

To my mind the 996 Carrera S is the best looking 911 since the 993 Carrera S and not sure there has been a better looking one since. I was sat behnd one with a fruity exhaust driving through east end of London the other day and it just looked so right. For me a sure fire bet as far as future values are concerned as long as the prevelant engine issues have been addressed.

I would have mine in Polar Silver

[BK911]

WojaWabbit said:

Mine goes to her new owner on Sunday. Can't say I'm looking forward to it

The rising values will unfortunately mean less people getting out and driving them as they were meant to be driven.

I'll really miss her....

Use her everyday.. another couple of thousand miles since my last post, treated her to some new shoes... MPS2's all round for £770 and an exhaust hack at £300 so it's sounds like the PSE but all the time.

This car is soooo much fun as a daily. 320Bhp is 100 down from my M3, ironically I have 100% more fun

[EarlOfHazard]

It's been a little while since I've looked at 911 prices; but I must say that 996s with the factory Aero (GT3-esque) kit have risen as well. The cheapest I've seen is 18k now, these could have been had for 13-14k.
A 'normal' Y-reg 3.4 manual coupe appeared on Ebay for 9k at the weekend; sold by Monday

[Spinner20]

Slight thread resurrection.....

I just bought a 52k 2004 MY C4S in my preferred spec of midnight blue over grey with PSE from a Porsche dealer this month as my first Pork product after having many others and have to say its a very good car. I am comparing with previous various M variety cars, Audi R8’s and the like and it still has a lot to offer in my opinion.

I did 450 miles this weekend on a long trip and had to get used to Pork feedback. Hopping into my E46 touring on Monday I was convinced the steering was broken such was the lack of ‘connection’.

Compared to my E39 M5 it offers far more connection and feedback however would get its backside kicked on a rougher but sweeping road surface as the M5 soaks it up at pace without issue. Neither would completely loose each other on any journey however.

As other have said maintenance is key as is dialling in to your spec. Amoung other things I had discs/pads changed all round before I picked it up along with an OEM short shifter of the same type in the GT3 cup cars. Both of these things really transformed the car.

Later this week I am having some 15mm all round H&R hubcentric spacers added whilst doing a full Geo to fast road spec. This should sort the understeer bias of the factory setup. Following that I am going for some Alcantara on the touch point controls to round off a nice club sport type spec for the car.

I am not really bothered about short/medium term values as it was the same price as a golf GTI and I know what I would rather have. Having said that values compared to the beginning of this thread are definitely higher today. Brexit will probably cause a blip for a year or two but I reckon longer term values will be fairly solid for good cars as people compare what you get for the money. I now know that you can fairly easily throw many thousands at maintenance and if you want your car ‘such so’ even more. I am already looking at a bucket list of 10k of stuff but will hold off for now and enjoy it as a very good car despite its 15 year vintage.

[EarlOfHazard]

I think the price gap between is closer between a c4s and a Turbo, than between a 'normal' 996 and a c4s. Makes the prospect of a Turbo more appealing!

[shantybeater]

EarlOfHazard said:

I think the price gap between is closer between a c4s and a Turbo, than between a 'normal' 996 and a c4s. Makes the prospect of a Turbo more appealing!

Never used to be but I agree, C4S prices have continued to rise whereas it looks like the Turbo as fallen a little or stagnated.

[Wudee]

shantybeater said:

Never used to be but I agree, C4S prices have continued to rise whereas it looks like the Turbo as fallen a little or stagnated.

I like the look of both, but small preference of no spoilers. To me the C4S is a bit like the new 991 GT3 touring. Lowered, wide body no spoilers. Very good stance.

[Wudee]

Afterreading this thread browsed the classifieds for a bit and noticed that C4S/Turbo cabs are more expensive that coupes. Isn't that unlike the normal 911 pricing? I thought on older cars coupe was more desirable than the convertibles. I realise when new the cab is priced at higher point, but figured enthusiasts tend to prefer the coupes.

[Roberty]

Wudee said:

Afterreading this thread browsed the classifieds for a bit and noticed that C4S/Turbo cabs are more expensive that coupes. Isn't that unlike the normal 911 pricing? I thought on older cars coupe was more desirable than the convertibles. I realise when new the cab is priced at higher point, but figured enthusiasts tend to prefer the coupes.

The 996 Turbo Cabriolet and C4S Cabriolet are far rarer than the Coupe’s they are based on.

The 996 Turbo came out in 1999, the C4S in 2002.

The cabriolet versions of both weren’t released until 2004 and production ceased in early 2005.

[Wudee]

I did not check production numbers. There is some merit to that, then again: who would want a 911 convertible anyway ?!

[Discombobulate]

Wudee said:

I did not check production numbers. There is some merit to that, then again: who would want a 911 convertible anyway ?!

My wife.