Prospective 981 GT4 Owners Discussion Forum Vol 2
Discussion
Well, on my first journey back from the dealer, some 45 miles, I achieved 28mpg which was mainly motorway, regulating the speed between 55-75mph, which was fairly good, though to be expected on that first nervous drive. Since then, with a bit of town driving (had jobs to do, wasn't my choice!), I've managed 18mpg, so clearly drinks fuel, but not too bad. I expect much less when I step on it.
First thoughts, albeit only from 80 miles because I am limiting the mileage until it is detailed on Monday. Wow, I never got that sense of connection from the Cayman R, the GT4 feels immediately more engaging which is a bit of a surprise considering the different make up of the cars. I guess quite a lot of this is linked to the orchestral theatre that greets you from the roar on start up, to the rev matching, and the cracks and pops it makes. I also love the slight whirring sound and the odd mechanical rattle from the rear of the car, it feels a lot more raw than expected, which is definitely something I like. Steer is light but very planted. Not experienced how long the ratios are yet, with it being so new, but they seem ok for what I need; one things for sure, the clutch 'is' heavy, but that of course depends what you are use to driving. I'm certainly not familiar with the upright close nature of the seating position, I could feel my arms aching on the drive home, but getting in it today, with a small steer wheel adjustment feels perfect; seats are comfortable too, but I've always got on with race seats anyway. Brake pedal seems to require one big shove to react though, but might just need time to bed in. One things for sure, everything feels very new, very tight, so can't wait to open it up a bit.
Trying not to be quite as precious about this car, already noticing small stone chips in the side scoops and arches; just one of them things.
With plans ahead, I suspect I'll have reached 1,000 miles within the next few weeks.
One things for sure, and I really didn't expect to say this; the car feels absolutely special, and I can now understand the premiums paid, even if I wouldn't personally pay over list out of principle. I CAN see this car being a future classic, just because of what Porsche have achieved here. I suspect there are many others that were tempted immediately by flipping for a £25k return, but have now held on to them because they are simply wonderful machines. Sorry if I offend anyone, but I actually prefer this over the 997 and 991 GT3 in terms of driving; and I think as a looker, I'd say it is one of the best looking cars on the planet.
First thoughts, albeit only from 80 miles because I am limiting the mileage until it is detailed on Monday. Wow, I never got that sense of connection from the Cayman R, the GT4 feels immediately more engaging which is a bit of a surprise considering the different make up of the cars. I guess quite a lot of this is linked to the orchestral theatre that greets you from the roar on start up, to the rev matching, and the cracks and pops it makes. I also love the slight whirring sound and the odd mechanical rattle from the rear of the car, it feels a lot more raw than expected, which is definitely something I like. Steer is light but very planted. Not experienced how long the ratios are yet, with it being so new, but they seem ok for what I need; one things for sure, the clutch 'is' heavy, but that of course depends what you are use to driving. I'm certainly not familiar with the upright close nature of the seating position, I could feel my arms aching on the drive home, but getting in it today, with a small steer wheel adjustment feels perfect; seats are comfortable too, but I've always got on with race seats anyway. Brake pedal seems to require one big shove to react though, but might just need time to bed in. One things for sure, everything feels very new, very tight, so can't wait to open it up a bit.
Trying not to be quite as precious about this car, already noticing small stone chips in the side scoops and arches; just one of them things.
With plans ahead, I suspect I'll have reached 1,000 miles within the next few weeks.
One things for sure, and I really didn't expect to say this; the car feels absolutely special, and I can now understand the premiums paid, even if I wouldn't personally pay over list out of principle. I CAN see this car being a future classic, just because of what Porsche have achieved here. I suspect there are many others that were tempted immediately by flipping for a £25k return, but have now held on to them because they are simply wonderful machines. Sorry if I offend anyone, but I actually prefer this over the 997 and 991 GT3 in terms of driving; and I think as a looker, I'd say it is one of the best looking cars on the planet.
Edited by mdianuk on Saturday 18th June 14:01
GT4P said:
DMS are more for your bmw, merc etc!
Ehresmann have proven track record, did they not do gtsralph,s car.
What about the Cobb plug and play?
Cobb's is an OBD port device and they provide their own tunes but have limited resources to provide proper tunes for all configurations of fuel, intake and exhaust (see Rennlist threads). If you can find a good tuner who uses Cobb AccessSport they may well be able to deliver a good tune, although it may not be quite as well (but probably good enough) integrated with all the electronics as a direct ECU tune.Ehresmann have proven track record, did they not do gtsralph,s car.
What about the Cobb plug and play?
Ehresmann also have a OBD port device (Dimsport) which they load tested tunes for particular configurations.
Ehresmann also do custom tunes permanently programmed directly into the ECU (as mine was which was their first 991 3.8L non-powerkit tune).
Ehresmann started tuning his PDK 981 Boxster S and achieved around 370PS with street 200 cell headers and has tuned the Cayman S FIA GT4 class race cars which retain 3.4L engine and PDK and achieve around 380PS with race headers. There was one at RSR this week being loaded for their Spa Premium days Tuesday and Wednesday.
Ehresmann then acquired a 3.8L 991S Powerkit engine which he installed in his Boxster and which now gets around 450PS with race headers. He's fitted GT4 front end and Spyder rear spoiler but the extra front aero has unbalanced the car, it needs a bigger rear spoiler to balance the GT4 front. His Boxster was used by KW as their development vehicle for the 981 series.
I also met with Manthey at Nordschliefe this week, they will not provide engine tunes, just suspension, wheels and tyres. They explained that there are TuV emission issues which arise with engine modifications. One of their mods was a pair of strengthened rear hatch 'bump stops' as the hatch is compressed by the rear wing at high speed, thus slightly changing the wing's angle of attack - perhaps the cheapest part ever sold by Manthey...
Finally, one of RSR's instructors rearranged the NS rear of a 991 GT3RS coming out of La Source on Wednesday, Ron was not happy.
Did a 200 mile round trip to Cardiff Porsche on the prom yesterday and met some friendly like minded Porsche enthusiasts.With regards to LWBS have now concluded they are very supportive and no aches and pains when i get out even when recovering from a recent lower back strain!.The mistake people make when they first assess comfort whether they're buying a mattress,sofa or car is that soft squishy feeling initially feels comfortable but has zero back support like a hard mattress is better for your spine than a soft one despite the soft one feeling more comfortable initially.
mdianuk said:
Well, on my first journey back from the dealer, some 45 miles, I achieved 28mpg which was mainly motorway, regulating the speed between 55-75mph, which was fairly good, though to be expected on that first nervous drive. Since then, with a bit of town driving (had jobs to do, wasn't my choice!), I've managed 18mpg, so clearly drinks fuel, but not too bad. I expect much less when I step on it.
First thoughts, albeit only from 80 miles because I am limiting the mileage until it is detailed on Monday. Wow, I never got that sense of connection from the Cayman R, the GT4 feels immediately more engaging which is a bit of a surprise considering the different make up of the cars. I guess quite a lot of this is linked to the orchestral theatre that greets you from the roar on start up, to the rev matching, and the cracks and pops it makes. I also love the slight whirring sound and the odd mechanical rattle from the rear of the car, it feels a lot more raw than expected, which is definitely something I like. Steer is light but very planted. Not experienced how long the ratios are yet, with it being so new, but they seem ok for what I need; one things for sure, the clutch 'is' heavy, but that of course depends what you are use to driving. I'm certainly not familiar with the upright close nature of the seating position, I could feel my arms aching on the drive home, but getting in it today, with a small steer wheel adjustment feels perfect; seats are comfortable too, but I've always got on with race seats anyway. Brake pedal seems to require one big shove to react though, but might just need time to bed in. One things for sure, everything feels very new, very tight, so can't wait to open it up a bit.
Trying not to be quite as precious about this car, already noticing small stone chips in the side scoops and arches; just one of them things.
With plans ahead, I suspect I'll have reached 1,000 miles within the next few weeks.
One things for sure, and I really didn't expect to say this; the car feels absolutely special, and I can now understand the premiums paid, even if I wouldn't personally pay over list out of principle. I CAN see this car being a future classic, just because of what Porsche have achieved here. I suspect there are many others that were tempted immediately by flipping for a £25k return, but have now held on to them because they are simply wonderful machines. Sorry if I offend anyone, but I actually prefer this over the 997 and 991 GT3 in terms of driving; and I think as a looker, I'd say it is one of the best looking cars on the planet.
Ditto 28.2 MPG on my 101 mile first drive back from the detailer (Justin at Exclusive Car Care - I would heartily recommend). First thoughts, albeit only from 80 miles because I am limiting the mileage until it is detailed on Monday. Wow, I never got that sense of connection from the Cayman R, the GT4 feels immediately more engaging which is a bit of a surprise considering the different make up of the cars. I guess quite a lot of this is linked to the orchestral theatre that greets you from the roar on start up, to the rev matching, and the cracks and pops it makes. I also love the slight whirring sound and the odd mechanical rattle from the rear of the car, it feels a lot more raw than expected, which is definitely something I like. Steer is light but very planted. Not experienced how long the ratios are yet, with it being so new, but they seem ok for what I need; one things for sure, the clutch 'is' heavy, but that of course depends what you are use to driving. I'm certainly not familiar with the upright close nature of the seating position, I could feel my arms aching on the drive home, but getting in it today, with a small steer wheel adjustment feels perfect; seats are comfortable too, but I've always got on with race seats anyway. Brake pedal seems to require one big shove to react though, but might just need time to bed in. One things for sure, everything feels very new, very tight, so can't wait to open it up a bit.
Trying not to be quite as precious about this car, already noticing small stone chips in the side scoops and arches; just one of them things.
With plans ahead, I suspect I'll have reached 1,000 miles within the next few weeks.
One things for sure, and I really didn't expect to say this; the car feels absolutely special, and I can now understand the premiums paid, even if I wouldn't personally pay over list out of principle. I CAN see this car being a future classic, just because of what Porsche have achieved here. I suspect there are many others that were tempted immediately by flipping for a £25k return, but have now held on to them because they are simply wonderful machines. Sorry if I offend anyone, but I actually prefer this over the 997 and 991 GT3 in terms of driving; and I think as a looker, I'd say it is one of the best looking cars on the planet.
Edited by mdianuk on Saturday 18th June 14:01
The GT4 is an utterly brilliant car - the first car fit to sit alongside the Clio Trophy on the drive!
Can I ask if anyone elses brakes squeal when they come to a stop (very low speed). Is it because the car is brand new and need to perform a few more stops before it settles?
Detailer noticed some scratches to the inside of the glass on the rear quarter and back window; probably from when the factory put the engine cover on. Annoying, hoping that I won't have to go through the hassle of getting them replaced!
Detailer noticed some scratches to the inside of the glass on the rear quarter and back window; probably from when the factory put the engine cover on. Annoying, hoping that I won't have to go through the hassle of getting them replaced!
mdianuk said:
Can I ask if anyone elses brakes squeal when they come to a stop (very low speed). Is it because the car is brand new and need to perform a few more stops before it settles?
Yep, entirely normal for a GT Porsche. GT3 brakes squeal whether steels or ceramics. Probably won't settle down either. Handbook refers to this.av185 said:
Yep, entirely normal for a GT Porsche. GT3 brakes squeal whether steels or ceramics. Probably won't settle down either. Handbook refers to this.
Embarrassing, but if normal, acceptable!The scratches on the window, not so much; might need them replacing, or a method found of removing light scuffs.
av185 said:
Yep, entirely normal for a GT Porsche. GT3 brakes squeal whether steels or ceramics. Probably won't settle down either. Handbook refers to this.
Mine squealed a bit during low speed stops at the beginning. Once I took it for a long, spirited drive and properly bedded the pads the noise disappeared and have not since returned.mdianuk said:
Embarrassing, but if normal, acceptable!
The scratches on the window, not so much; might need them replacing, or a method found of removing light scuffs.
If the scratches cannot be felt or do not catch a finger nail they should be able to polish out , I read on Internet recently you can use a metal polish which reminds of when I was a kid when you use to use brasso to remove scratches on watch faces!The scratches on the window, not so much; might need them replacing, or a method found of removing light scuffs.
But it's the dealers problem not yours!
And yes my brakes still squeak after a 1000 miles ! But it tends to happen more after a high speed run and slowing down for a roundabout!
mdianuk said:
Well, on my first journey back from the dealer, some 45 miles, I achieved 28mpg which was mainly motorway, regulating the speed between 55-75mph, which was fairly good, though to be expected on that first nervous drive. Since then, with a bit of town driving (had jobs to do, wasn't my choice!), I've managed 18mpg, so clearly drinks fuel, but not too bad. I expect much less when I step on it.
First thoughts, albeit only from 80 miles because I am limiting the mileage until it is detailed on Monday. Wow, I never got that sense of connection from the Cayman R, the GT4 feels immediately more engaging which is a bit of a surprise considering the different make up of the cars. I guess quite a lot of this is linked to the orchestral theatre that greets you from the roar on start up, to the rev matching, and the cracks and pops it makes. I also love the slight whirring sound and the odd mechanical rattle from the rear of the car, it feels a lot more raw than expected, which is definitely something I like. Steer is light but very planted. Not experienced how long the ratios are yet, with it being so new, but they seem ok for what I need; one things for sure, the clutch 'is' heavy, but that of course depends what you are use to driving. I'm certainly not familiar with the upright close nature of the seating position, I could feel my arms aching on the drive home, but getting in it today, with a small steer wheel adjustment feels perfect; seats are comfortable too, but I've always got on with race seats anyway. Brake pedal seems to require one big shove to react though, but might just need time to bed in. One things for sure, everything feels very new, very tight, so can't wait to open it up a bit.
Trying not to be quite as precious about this car, already noticing small stone chips in the side scoops and arches; just one of them things.
With plans ahead, I suspect I'll have reached 1,000 miles within the next few weeks.
One things for sure, and I really didn't expect to say this; the car feels absolutely special, and I can now understand the premiums paid, even if I wouldn't personally pay over list out of principle. I CAN see this car being a future classic, just because of what Porsche have achieved here. I suspect there are many others that were tempted immediately by flipping for a £25k return, but have now held on to them because they are simply wonderful machines. Sorry if I offend anyone, but I actually prefer this over the 997 and 991 GT3 in terms of driving; and I think as a looker, I'd say it is one of the best looking cars on the planet.
Glad you've finally got hold of the car Ian and that you are pleased with it. Looks great with the black wheels, but still happy with my choice of Silver. Took mine to Le Mans over the weekend and can certainly feel it loosening up, though haven't had much chance to open it up as the drive home on Monday was in torrential rain, so keep the speed right down. From the couple of chances I have had to have a blast through 2nd and 3rd (1400 miles) it sounds epic!First thoughts, albeit only from 80 miles because I am limiting the mileage until it is detailed on Monday. Wow, I never got that sense of connection from the Cayman R, the GT4 feels immediately more engaging which is a bit of a surprise considering the different make up of the cars. I guess quite a lot of this is linked to the orchestral theatre that greets you from the roar on start up, to the rev matching, and the cracks and pops it makes. I also love the slight whirring sound and the odd mechanical rattle from the rear of the car, it feels a lot more raw than expected, which is definitely something I like. Steer is light but very planted. Not experienced how long the ratios are yet, with it being so new, but they seem ok for what I need; one things for sure, the clutch 'is' heavy, but that of course depends what you are use to driving. I'm certainly not familiar with the upright close nature of the seating position, I could feel my arms aching on the drive home, but getting in it today, with a small steer wheel adjustment feels perfect; seats are comfortable too, but I've always got on with race seats anyway. Brake pedal seems to require one big shove to react though, but might just need time to bed in. One things for sure, everything feels very new, very tight, so can't wait to open it up a bit.
Trying not to be quite as precious about this car, already noticing small stone chips in the side scoops and arches; just one of them things.
With plans ahead, I suspect I'll have reached 1,000 miles within the next few weeks.
One things for sure, and I really didn't expect to say this; the car feels absolutely special, and I can now understand the premiums paid, even if I wouldn't personally pay over list out of principle. I CAN see this car being a future classic, just because of what Porsche have achieved here. I suspect there are many others that were tempted immediately by flipping for a £25k return, but have now held on to them because they are simply wonderful machines. Sorry if I offend anyone, but I actually prefer this over the 997 and 991 GT3 in terms of driving; and I think as a looker, I'd say it is one of the best looking cars on the planet.
Edited by mdianuk on Saturday 18th June 14:01
Sounds like you are enjoying yours as much as I am mine.
so boys - lots of talk about getting a little more fizz from the GT4 engine, but has anyone actually done it yet (in the UK)..??
I'm toying with plenum, throttle body and remap but wonder what this will result in.. I'd go for 200 cell cats too (have great exp of these on other cars incl my 993) but the GT4 is noisy enough, and 200 cells will only make things truly too loud for UK tracks.
So, anyone got any UK exp on this..?? - Or Euroland for that matter. Seems like a good excuse for a trip to Germany....
I'm toying with plenum, throttle body and remap but wonder what this will result in.. I'd go for 200 cell cats too (have great exp of these on other cars incl my 993) but the GT4 is noisy enough, and 200 cells will only make things truly too loud for UK tracks.
So, anyone got any UK exp on this..?? - Or Euroland for that matter. Seems like a good excuse for a trip to Germany....
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