Who is the depreciation King?

Who is the depreciation King?

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944/68

332 posts

257 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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fully loaded 996 £76400, sold for £52000
993 c2 £46000, sold for £32000
993 t4S £66000, sold for £58000
ML320 £34000, trade in value £13000
SLK230 £35000, trade in value £20000
Honda SP1 £7800, sold for £4500
Buell X1 £8995, sold for £5000
Racecar, bills for £30000, worth sod all (about £7000)

Only worked this one out a bit back when I sold t4S, total including bank/finance interest......£124,000 in 8 years

Whats said about a fool and his money!!

silver993tt

9,064 posts

240 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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Corrado VR6 Storm, bought 1995 for £21,500 sold in 2000 for £15,000 - £6,500 over 5 years

Boxster S, bought 2000 for £38,000 sold in 2004 for £29,000 - £9,000 over 4 years

superlightr

12,859 posts

264 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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Its not what you have 'Lost' its the fun you have 'Gained' by owning the cars.

There may be some high depreciation numbers, but thats all they are in the end. So long as you have a roof and the basics for a comfortable life then spend and enjoy.

Robbo66

3,836 posts

234 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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Read it an weep:

964 C2 12 months £35,000-£24,000 = £ 13,000
993 C2 12 months £44,000 - £31,000 = £ 13,000
996 C4 12 months £ 66,000 - £ 54,000 = £ 12,000
996 GT3 10 months £ 80,000 - £ 68,000 = £ 12,000
Audi RS6 9 months £ 62,000 - £ 58,000 = £4,000
996 TT 12 months £ 90,000 - £ 81,000 = £ 19,000
Ferrari 360 8 months £ 103,000 - £ 87,000 = £ 16,000

Total= £ 89,000

This doesn't include the early 205 GTI's, Corrado's and 4 x 4's. Just purely the sports cars with average miles for the marque. No stupid mods or colours. All cars bought outright with no finance.

And it's going to get worse with the market the way it is and production of the marques stepped up.

Makes you think 'eh.

4wd

2,289 posts

232 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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You bloody maniacs! I felt bad loosing 2k a year swopping cars about, lol. Mind you, it helped I bought cars with waiting lists. I feel like scrooge now by comparison to you lot.

If I'm the the position to put a large amount into a car, rather than invested, it will be a classic at the end of it's depreciation curve. Those who bought 993 RS models are bang on the money. This is the sort of thing I would do. The key is to be happy with something and KEEP it!

verysideways

10,240 posts

273 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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Ok, the highlights after 28 cars in (almost) 12 years:

Capri - £850/12 months/£650 = £200
BMW 530 V8 - £6000/12 months/£5500 = £500
BMW 328 Sport - £16000/12 months/£10000 = £6000
993 C4S - £26000/12 months/£27000 = £-1000
TVR Chimaera - £7400/10 months/£8000 = £-600

All the rest of my cars i've lost a bit, but usually in the region of £500/year (or part thereof).

Am i just lucky?

VS

thierry henry

109 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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this is my last six cars!

x5 - 4 months = -£4,000
focus rs - 1 month = £1,500
m3 - 6 months = £5,000
noble - 7 months = £15,000
996 turbo - 4 months = £10,000
997 s - 3 months = £5,500

total = £46,000 in 2 years

johnny senna

4,046 posts

273 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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4wd said:
You bloody maniacs! Those who bought 993 RS models are bang on the money. This is the sort of thing I would do. The key is to be happy with something and KEEP it!



That makes me feel much better! I do intend to keep the 993RS longterm.

t urbo

Original Poster:

218 posts

263 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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I think Guy will be King if he were to build up the courage to tell all, problem is thinking of the losses could be detrimental.
With regards to the Boxster yes i sold it back to a dealer but it needed a front end respray because it looked like i had shot blasted it.

Roshambo

580 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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Yep that would do it.....a mate of mine got offered £20k as a px at an OPC for his 1998 C2, went to an independant & got £28.5k for it.

So he "saved" £8.5k just by going down the road to a specialist.

Ro.

911nutter

1,916 posts

252 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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i worked out a year or so ago that i had just pipped the 100k mark in depreciation since 1997.

add the loss on my current c4s if is sold it now and i'm looking at a loss of around £120k.

The more frightening way to look at it is by saying to net £120k, I need to have earned around £200k....

rationalise: can't take it with you when you go, if you can afford it and enjoy it do it, you only live once.

happy

verysideways

10,240 posts

273 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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911nutter said:
rationalise: can't take it with you when you go, if you can afford it and enjoy it do it, you only live once.


Quite so, but if you'd saved that depreciation over the last few years you'd have a 993 GT2 for weekends by now....sorry

VS

911nutter

1,916 posts

252 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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verysideways said:

911nutter said:
rationalise: can't take it with you when you go, if you can afford it and enjoy it do it, you only live once.



Quite so, but if you'd saved that depreciation over the last few years you'd have a 993 GT2 for weekends by now....sorry

VS


it's taken me about 8 years to lose that money!!! i can't spend 10% of my life waiting to buy something for the weekends!!!
when i want something, i want it NOW!!!!!!!!!!

verysideways

10,240 posts

273 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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You're right, of course.
I'll get my coat... (on my way to buying another motorbike for one last summer in the UK)

VS

t urbo

Original Poster:

218 posts

263 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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911nutter i too am an impulse buyer... Just the other day i was looking at a Carrera GT in Romans of Banstead. Problem was no matter how i did my maths i just couldnt afford it, but rest assured if there was a way id be in it now.

charlie360

379 posts

259 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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Not sure I can top that lot but, it's a little scary thinking of some of the last few cars I've owned;

TVR Chim 3K
Cerbie 4.2 0k
Cerbie 4.5 24K
F355 8K
F360M 35K
Current 996TT - unknown but enough probably!!

roygarth

2,674 posts

249 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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aceparts_com said:


BUT, the 964 gave me the idea for making indicators for it which then grew into a nice little 'cottage industry'. So really, the 964 appreciated by a couple of hundred grand. That must be a record for a 964!


I like this logic! 10 years ago I bought a 1961 356B Super 90 for £4000. It had a battery drain problem, so I bought a brilliant little battery cut-off switch in the US. I then tooled up and sold 100,000 Discarnects which started my bling business!

www.richbrook.co.uk/pages/batterycutoffswitches.html

Oh, and I sold the 356B for £6000!

seandudding

495 posts

251 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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My Porsche history goes something like this.

99/00 Boxster 2.5 Bought 39k sold 35k
00/01 Boxster S Bought 47k Sold 41k
01/02 Boxster S Bought 47k Sold 46k
02/03 996 C4S Bought 66k sold 64k
03/04 996 GT3 Mk2 Bought 79k Sold 75k
04 GT3RS Bought 86k who knows....

The biggest loss was the first Boxster S and I just part ex this car. For the later cars I planned ahead and always gave the car to the OPC on a sale or return basis, so as a regular customer they charged me a fixed rate for selling the cars.

So far 17k in depreciation in 6 years, which is well worth it. The other thing to remember also is that only one of these cars ever had a service, and only the GT3's ever needed any consumables. No finance involved, but I guess I could of invested the money in them. Insurace and fuel, so lets say it 30k for 6 years of fun. Sounds good to me.....

diver944

1,843 posts

277 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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You guys are soooooo decadent with your money

I've only had 6 cars in 21 years of driving and I've still got the two 944s:

Renault14 2 years £400-£50 = £350 scrapped
Nova SRi 9 years £6200-£2200 = £4000 stolen
Metro Gti 8 years £4500-£1100 = £3400 stolen
Metro Gti 1 year £1100-£300 = £800 sold for parts
944 S2 7 years £12000-£7000 = £5000
944 Turbo 3 years £8800-£8800 = £zero

Total depreciation £13550

roygarth

2,674 posts

249 months

Thursday 17th March 2005
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seandudding said:
so as a regular customer they charged me a fixed rate for selling the cars.


As a matter of interest the 'fixed rate' was approximately?