Macan Turbo Performance Package Delivery
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Have managed to avoid Burmester so far so pls don't encourage me. Look forward to seeing some pictures once you've picked it up. What colour and main spec have you gone for?
Ours is July and we are hoping for a factory collection (which probably costs about the same as Burmester - lol)
Ours is July and we are hoping for a factory collection (which probably costs about the same as Burmester - lol)
Volcano grey, Turbo exterior pack, Turbo interior pack (grey stitching), pano roof, alcantara roof lining, Bermester, air suspension, etc. The whole process was a slippery slope, I originally ordered a GTS, then decided why not give it a nudge and get the full fat Turbo, then the PP got released so went with that, in the end man maths got me to £15k higher than the original very nice spec GTS, crazy really. I'm sure it will be awesome, latest justification to myself is it's a family friendly cut price practical 911!
My 2016 Macan SD (newer model with new sat nav) has the Bose - bang for buck it's very good, I would recommend it for sure. I haven't even heard the Bermester so can't comment on it, but I've always fancied a really top end system in a car so I hope it's good! Roll on 1st June....
My 2016 Macan SD (newer model with new sat nav) has the Bose - bang for buck it's very good, I would recommend it for sure. I haven't even heard the Bermester so can't comment on it, but I've always fancied a really top end system in a car so I hope it's good! Roll on 1st June....
Shiverman said:
Have managed to avoid Burmester so far so pls don't encourage me. Look forward to seeing some pictures once you've picked it up. What colour and main spec have you gone for?
Ours is July and we are hoping for a factory collection (which probably costs about the same as Burmester - lol)
Ours is July and we are hoping for a factory collection (which probably costs about the same as Burmester - lol)
This is probably pure man maths, but hopefully useful. My Cayenne's appetite for discs and pads is quite horrifying and last time they needed changing (at significant expense) it occurred to me that I could have had a set of ceramics for the money I've spent renewing them over the years. OK the Macan is c. 10% lighter but it still weighs c. 2000kg and it's going to eat brakes with enthusiastic use. I think if you're planning to keep the car long enough and do enough miles to see the return on investment there is a purely financial argument to spec the ceramics - they will last the lifetime of the car (unless you're planning to track it - but I'd guess not very often, if at all?)
If you change your cars more often than that I'm not sure how much of the cost you'll see back come PX time (probably not a lot) - but you could say that for most options I guess - so spec the car for yourself I always say.
TBH I'd have the ceramics anyway on pure performance grounds. I've had a 911 and Cayman with ceramics and the brakes played a huge part in forming the character of the car. I've always been very disappointed in the brakes when I've moved on to another Porsche with steels. The sort of driving I enjoy I get more out of stronger brakes than a stronger engine. But each to their own with these things.
I'd say try to get down the experience centre and try out a car with both - that's what it's there for and your OPC will pay for you to go
It's a lovely treat to be able to spec the car from the factory - the process of weighing up the options I think is part of the fun so why not try a few out before you buy?
It is a bit annoying that the extra cost of ceramics is the same on the PP Macan as the standard turbo as normally they adjust the cost of options to reflect the more expensive standard equipment. Maybe if you mention that you might not have to pay the full-up £5.5k...
Apparently the reason the brakes are upgraded on the PP (according to my recent PEC instructor) is to meet the new target that 60-0 should be half of the 0-60 time, so I dare say the steels on the PP are going to be pretty strong, to be fair.
If you change your cars more often than that I'm not sure how much of the cost you'll see back come PX time (probably not a lot) - but you could say that for most options I guess - so spec the car for yourself I always say.
TBH I'd have the ceramics anyway on pure performance grounds. I've had a 911 and Cayman with ceramics and the brakes played a huge part in forming the character of the car. I've always been very disappointed in the brakes when I've moved on to another Porsche with steels. The sort of driving I enjoy I get more out of stronger brakes than a stronger engine. But each to their own with these things.
I'd say try to get down the experience centre and try out a car with both - that's what it's there for and your OPC will pay for you to go
It's a lovely treat to be able to spec the car from the factory - the process of weighing up the options I think is part of the fun so why not try a few out before you buy?It is a bit annoying that the extra cost of ceramics is the same on the PP Macan as the standard turbo as normally they adjust the cost of options to reflect the more expensive standard equipment. Maybe if you mention that you might not have to pay the full-up £5.5k...
Apparently the reason the brakes are upgraded on the PP (according to my recent PEC instructor) is to meet the new target that 60-0 should be half of the 0-60 time, so I dare say the steels on the PP are going to be pretty strong, to be fair.
Edited by Oso on Monday 8th May 17:59
SIXSM said:
Ummed & erred over VG for quite a while but in the end decided on Night Blue Metallic with black trim/logos, carbon side blades, Spyder wheels, LED's, reverse camera, privacy glass, tinted tail lights Turbo interior pack, sunroof, white dials, carbon steering wheel and a number of other goodies, but no air.
We had a Macan GTS and found the suspension to be perfect in the sports setting. Most people only say positive things about air but as I havent had a chance to drive a car with it on, we decided to save the money for other toys. Likewise havent experienced Burmester so again drew a line on that as well. Mind you I still have 2 weeks to lockdown so plenty of last minute changes can and may still happen - LOL
It is a family sports car, and keep telling yourself itself a cut price 911! Just don't go and drive one or you'll be justifying how you can add a 911 into the garage as well! I know this from bitter experience - ha ha.
Looking forward to pictures of it in June.
Oso said:
This is probably pure man maths, but hopefully useful. My Cayenne's appetite for discs and pads is quite horrifying and last time they needed changing (at significant expense) it occurred to me that I could have had a set of ceramics for the money I've spent renewing them over the years. OK the Macan is c. 10% lighter but it still weighs c. 2000kg and it's going to eat brakes with enthusiastic use. I think if you're planning to keep the car long enough and do enough miles to see the return on investment there is a purely financial argument to spec the ceramics - they will last the lifetime of the car (unless you're planning to track it - but I'd guess not very often, if at all?)
If you change your cars more often than that I'm not sure how much of the cost you'll see back come PX time (probably not a lot) - but you could say that for most options I guess - so spec the car for yourself I always say.
TBH I'd have the ceramics anyway on pure performance grounds. I've had a 911 and Cayman with ceramics and the brakes played a huge part in forming the character of the car. I've always been very disappointed in the brakes when I've moved on to another Porsche with steels. The sort of driving I enjoy I get more out of stronger brakes than a stronger engine. But each to their own with these things.
I'd say try to get down the experience centre and try out a car with both - that's what it's there for and your OPC will pay for you to go It's a lovely treat to be able to spec the car from the factory - the process of weighing up the options I think is part of the fun so why not try a few out before you buy?
It is a bit annoying that the extra cost of ceramics is the same on the PP Macan as the standard turbo as normally they adjust the cost of options to reflect the more expensive standard equipment. Maybe if you mention that you might not have to pay the full-up £5.5k...
Apparently the reason the brakes are upgraded on the PP (according to my recent PEC instructor) is to meet the new target that 60-0 should be half of the 0-60 time, so I dare say the steels on the PP are going to be pretty strong, to be fair.
Thanks OSO for your feedback and you make some interesting points about the Cayenne eating discs/pads. If you change your cars more often than that I'm not sure how much of the cost you'll see back come PX time (probably not a lot) - but you could say that for most options I guess - so spec the car for yourself I always say.
TBH I'd have the ceramics anyway on pure performance grounds. I've had a 911 and Cayman with ceramics and the brakes played a huge part in forming the character of the car. I've always been very disappointed in the brakes when I've moved on to another Porsche with steels. The sort of driving I enjoy I get more out of stronger brakes than a stronger engine. But each to their own with these things.
I'd say try to get down the experience centre and try out a car with both - that's what it's there for and your OPC will pay for you to go
It's a lovely treat to be able to spec the car from the factory - the process of weighing up the options I think is part of the fun so why not try a few out before you buy?It is a bit annoying that the extra cost of ceramics is the same on the PP Macan as the standard turbo as normally they adjust the cost of options to reflect the more expensive standard equipment. Maybe if you mention that you might not have to pay the full-up £5.5k...
Apparently the reason the brakes are upgraded on the PP (according to my recent PEC instructor) is to meet the new target that 60-0 should be half of the 0-60 time, so I dare say the steels on the PP are going to be pretty strong, to be fair.
Edited by Oso on Monday 8th May 17:59
I too love PCCB's and I love the feel of them and the stopping power and as I clean the cars as well I love the lack of brake dust. I just don't like the price and will struggle to remove enough other items to justify them on the Macan.
I'm not well known for keeping cars for that long so TBH it will probably be around 10-12 months or so and 7-9k miles. Given that I wont recoup the saving of steel discs and pads so again I cant work my man maths magic.
I booked the Experience Centre today (date is after lockdown unfortunately) and they don't run a Turbo PP only a standard Turbo (didn't ask if they have steel and PCCB versions tbh)! Bit of a shame its only the base Turbo as the differences are the extra HP and the chassis, both of which it would be good to test off the main roads. Still it's a fun half day and I'll take my son (22 years old) and get him some seat time with one of the instructors. It will be his only chance to drive a Porsche for a number of years and should help his driving skills as well. Plus we get a great breakfast and lunch for free and maybe even a chance to see the new GT3.
Shiverman said:
Thanks OSO for your feedback and you make some interesting points about the Cayenne eating discs/pads.
I too love PCCB's and I love the feel of them and the stopping power and as I clean the cars as well I love the lack of brake dust. I just don't like the price and will struggle to remove enough other items to justify them on the Macan.
I'm not well known for keeping cars for that long so TBH it will probably be around 10-12 months or so and 7-9k miles. Given that I wont recoup the saving of steel discs and pads so again I cant work my man maths magic.
I booked the Experience Centre today (date is after lockdown unfortunately) and they don't run a Turbo PP only a standard Turbo (didn't ask if they have steel and PCCB versions tbh)! Bit of a shame its only the base Turbo as the differences are the extra HP and the chassis, both of which it would be good to test off the main roads. Still it's a fun half day and I'll take my son (22 years old) and get him some seat time with one of the instructors. It will be his only chance to drive a Porsche for a number of years and should help his driving skills as well. Plus we get a great breakfast and lunch for free and maybe even a chance to see the new GT3.
Sounds like will be a fab day out, hope you have a great time. Sure you'll love your car when it arrives I too love PCCB's and I love the feel of them and the stopping power and as I clean the cars as well I love the lack of brake dust. I just don't like the price and will struggle to remove enough other items to justify them on the Macan.
I'm not well known for keeping cars for that long so TBH it will probably be around 10-12 months or so and 7-9k miles. Given that I wont recoup the saving of steel discs and pads so again I cant work my man maths magic.
I booked the Experience Centre today (date is after lockdown unfortunately) and they don't run a Turbo PP only a standard Turbo (didn't ask if they have steel and PCCB versions tbh)! Bit of a shame its only the base Turbo as the differences are the extra HP and the chassis, both of which it would be good to test off the main roads. Still it's a fun half day and I'll take my son (22 years old) and get him some seat time with one of the instructors. It will be his only chance to drive a Porsche for a number of years and should help his driving skills as well. Plus we get a great breakfast and lunch for free and maybe even a chance to see the new GT3.
Sounds like a fantastic spec you have there. The air suspension maybe overkill, we have it on our SD with 21's and the ride is exceptionally good, really comfortable but handles great too - for a diesel! Thanks for the 911 tip - I will avoid driving one!
Shiverman said:
Role on 1st June indeed. Sounds a lovely spec and pleased to hear I wasn't the only one creeping with the spec. You obviously know what the Macan is all about and I am positive you are going to love the extra HP of the TPP. I wonder how it will compare with torque over your current SD?
Ummed & erred over VG for quite a while but in the end decided on Night Blue Metallic with black trim/logos, carbon side blades, Spyder wheels, LED's, reverse camera, privacy glass, tinted tail lights Turbo interior pack, sunroof, white dials, carbon steering wheel and a number of other goodies, but no air.
We had a Macan GTS and found the suspension to be perfect in the sports setting. Most people only say positive things about air but as I havent had a chance to drive a car with it on, we decided to save the money for other toys. Likewise havent experienced Burmester so again drew a line on that as well. Mind you I still have 2 weeks to lockdown so plenty of last minute changes can and may still happen - LOL
It is a family sports car, and keep telling yourself itself a cut price 911! Just don't go and drive one or you'll be justifying how you can add a 911 into the garage as well! I know this from bitter experience - ha ha.
Looking forward to pictures of it in June.
Ummed & erred over VG for quite a while but in the end decided on Night Blue Metallic with black trim/logos, carbon side blades, Spyder wheels, LED's, reverse camera, privacy glass, tinted tail lights Turbo interior pack, sunroof, white dials, carbon steering wheel and a number of other goodies, but no air.
We had a Macan GTS and found the suspension to be perfect in the sports setting. Most people only say positive things about air but as I havent had a chance to drive a car with it on, we decided to save the money for other toys. Likewise havent experienced Burmester so again drew a line on that as well. Mind you I still have 2 weeks to lockdown so plenty of last minute changes can and may still happen - LOL
It is a family sports car, and keep telling yourself itself a cut price 911! Just don't go and drive one or you'll be justifying how you can add a 911 into the garage as well! I know this from bitter experience - ha ha.
Looking forward to pictures of it in June.
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|https://thumbsnap.com/zx2eh7Tm[/url]Thanks, will do re first impressions. Car is through my local OPC Bournemouth - Jason has been brilliant as always. Detailing done by First Choice Detailing - again Jake is first class with his work. Can't wait....!
Shiverman said:
Looks stunning. Please let us have your first impressions after you've collected it.
Btw - which OPC are you using?
Btw - which OPC are you using?
Edited by SIXSM on Saturday 27th May 14:44
Delivery day pics! First impressions are I love it, what a car! I'm really pleased with the Turbo interior and exterior packs, the contrast with Volcano grey works really well. As with my previous Macan SD it's so well made, a really special top quality feeling car. I leave it in Sport mode most of the time which works well for reasonably spirited everyday driving (without holding the gears for too long), engine sounds much better than I expected - ultra refined yet a decent sporty note and not intrusive at all. The car is so refined that it's deceptively extremely fast as it should be! Air suspension really adds a level of sophistication to the ride, really impressive. Brakes are sublime even though I'm taking it very easy for the first few miles - the brakes on my SD were slightly grabby, the ones on this car are perfect and extremely powerful, great pedal feel.
Only one downside is the Burmester stereo - maybe for classical music it might be brilliant, but I find it completely underwhelming, in fact the Bose in my SD may have sounded a bit better. The Bose is excellent bang for buck (I highly recommend it) - for the extra £2.5k over the Bose the Burmester should blow the doors off the car, whereas it's pretty average, in fact the Beats system in my 595 Abarth at £600 sounds better IMO.
One other observation if anybody is toying between a GTS and Turbo - I don't know for sure as I haven't driven a GTS but I imagine it's the sweet car in the range bang for buck. A very similar spec GTS with Bose would have cost approx £12k less and for most of the time feel exactly the same as my car. It certainly wouldn't have quite the punch of the Turbo but it's still very quick and makes the same noise, gives the same experience, etc. Absolutely no regrets having the Turbo PP though - it's a crazy fast car and the ultimate "Mad Mac" which is what I hankered after! Just an observation re the GTS.
Only one downside is the Burmester stereo - maybe for classical music it might be brilliant, but I find it completely underwhelming, in fact the Bose in my SD may have sounded a bit better. The Bose is excellent bang for buck (I highly recommend it) - for the extra £2.5k over the Bose the Burmester should blow the doors off the car, whereas it's pretty average, in fact the Beats system in my 595 Abarth at £600 sounds better IMO.
One other observation if anybody is toying between a GTS and Turbo - I don't know for sure as I haven't driven a GTS but I imagine it's the sweet car in the range bang for buck. A very similar spec GTS with Bose would have cost approx £12k less and for most of the time feel exactly the same as my car. It certainly wouldn't have quite the punch of the Turbo but it's still very quick and makes the same noise, gives the same experience, etc. Absolutely no regrets having the Turbo PP though - it's a crazy fast car and the ultimate "Mad Mac" which is what I hankered after! Just an observation re the GTS.
Edited by SIXSM on Monday 5th June 02:54
Edited by SIXSM on Monday 5th June 03:03
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