Porsche 996 Turbo
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The 996 turbo (especially when even lightly mapped) is still pretty much a super car. It just happens to have a 911-shaped body. Super cars take a bit of looking after.
Add into this the fact that a lot of the expensive bits - tubes, actuators, heat shields etc. Etc. - are located right behind the rear wheels, in the firing line of water, grit and salt thrown up by the huge rear tyres, and you can see the potential for large and regular bills. Doesn't always work out that way, but it's obvious how it might.
Add into this the fact that a lot of the expensive bits - tubes, actuators, heat shields etc. Etc. - are located right behind the rear wheels, in the firing line of water, grit and salt thrown up by the huge rear tyres, and you can see the potential for large and regular bills. Doesn't always work out that way, but it's obvious how it might.
Adam B said:
its the parts prices that kill you
don't get the glass nicked from your wing mirrors - £800
laughable
They must of seen you coming, last one I ordered was £350, and that was heating and dimming. Mine averaged maybe 1500 quid a year of 4 years/40,000 miles. I disagree about parts cost I'd say parts are maybe double the cost of normal cars but it's labour that's the killer. Unless you exclusively get an opc to fix everything, they aren't that expensive to run.don't get the glass nicked from your wing mirrors - £800
laughable
Theone8181 said:
They must of seen you coming, last one I ordered was £350, and that was heating and dimming. Mine averaged maybe 1500 quid a year of 4 years/40,000 miles. I disagree about parts cost I'd say parts are maybe double the cost of normal cars but it's labour that's the killer. Unless you exclusively get an opc to fix everything, they aren't that expensive to run.
So the same £800 I got quoted for my pair then, mine (997 not 996) never saw an OPC and servicing was reasonable at £350-£500, but every service ended up 4 figures because of 1 or 2 worn out parts and massive Porsche taxSorry the way I was reading it, it sounded like you meant per side (which is obviously ridiculous if it were true). I don't think they cosy that much to run. When I sold mine at 107,000 miles I reckon it cosy the same to run as my wife's 62 plate at (sold mine this year) if tractor in deprivation so not that expensive.
My costs for a 2005 Turbo S are in my profile. It hasn't been too expensive for an ageing car that originally cost someone £100k.
I've run it for 6.5 years, typically covering 3-4,000 miles per year. Although scheduled services are only every two years, it's usually had something requiring a short stay in the workshop each year; I don't think you'd get way with only seeing a dealer once every other year the way you can with a brand new 911. Repair and servicing costs have averaged £1,400 per year, which allows for cheap years like 2017 where it needed literally nothing, and more expensive years like 2016 when it had a suspension refresh, tyres, condensers, manifold bolts, clutch accumulator, aircon pipes, etc - that was quite a big hit in one go!
They're still a great buy as long as you find one that has had the right money continually spent on it, and are prepared to keep on top of wear and tear.
I've run it for 6.5 years, typically covering 3-4,000 miles per year. Although scheduled services are only every two years, it's usually had something requiring a short stay in the workshop each year; I don't think you'd get way with only seeing a dealer once every other year the way you can with a brand new 911. Repair and servicing costs have averaged £1,400 per year, which allows for cheap years like 2017 where it needed literally nothing, and more expensive years like 2016 when it had a suspension refresh, tyres, condensers, manifold bolts, clutch accumulator, aircon pipes, etc - that was quite a big hit in one go!
They're still a great buy as long as you find one that has had the right money continually spent on it, and are prepared to keep on top of wear and tear.
I owned a Lapis blue 996 Turbo with a GT2 wing, Some fancy diverter values and HSS engine mounts. Truly a fantastic car and one that I miss. Fast, comfortable and the gear change felt like a rifle bolt though the sat-nav was s
t but that's the only negative I can say about the car By the time I sold it ( I owned for 3 and a bit years) I had spent about 6-7K on it. One service at my local OPC was 5.5K but in general it was about 1K per year to maintain. It also developed a whine in the front diff and in third gear. and the car had done 78K miles. I sold it to a dealer but found out later he had to spend 10K on it getting the diff and gearbox sorted and I think it was some guy near Pangbourne that did that work (Norhtcote or something like that).
t but that's the only negative I can say about the car By the time I sold it ( I owned for 3 and a bit years) I had spent about 6-7K on it. One service at my local OPC was 5.5K but in general it was about 1K per year to maintain. It also developed a whine in the front diff and in third gear. and the car had done 78K miles. I sold it to a dealer but found out later he had to spend 10K on it getting the diff and gearbox sorted and I think it was some guy near Pangbourne that did that work (Norhtcote or something like that). Edited by Never you mind on Monday 19th November 13:36
Adam B said:
Never you mind said:
I sold it to a dealer but found out later he had to spend 10K on it getting the diff and gearbox sorted and I think it was some guy near Pangbourne that did that work (Norhtcote or something like that).
dodged a bullet there - Northway Porsche near Padworth?
Unless you walked into to buy in which case silver was over-supplied and the dark metallics like midnight are far more sought after 
In my experience black was easiest to sell followed by greys/silvers followed by dark metallics - none hard to sell if car is good
really like the GT2 spoiler but would have to match it with front GT2 spoiler too
In my experience black was easiest to sell followed by greys/silvers followed by dark metallics - none hard to sell if car is good
really like the GT2 spoiler but would have to match it with front GT2 spoiler too
Adam B said:
Unless you walked into to buy in which case silver was over-supplied and the dark metallics like midnight are far more sought after
In my experience black was easiest to sell followed by greys/silvers followed by dark metallics - none hard to sell if car is good
really like the GT2 spoiler but would have to match it with front GT2 spoiler too
Didn't cause any problems with just the wing on the back. Think the wing only has affect when doing speeds over 127MPH which in the UK ain't that often. Did look good though. In my experience black was easiest to sell followed by greys/silvers followed by dark metallics - none hard to sell if car is good
really like the GT2 spoiler but would have to match it with front GT2 spoiler too
jimPH said:
GT2 nose cone. Add another 5k to the cost of ownership and that's for a copy (if you want it to be active). Worthit though.
active as in playing around with the vents so air flows through bonnet vents (as opposed to active aero) I assume?that price is plain silly though - how much is an OEM one?
Edited by Adam B on Tuesday 20th November 20:18
Adam B said:
jimPH said:
GT2 nose cone. Add another 5k to the cost of ownership and that's for a copy (if you want it to be active). Worthit though.
active as in playing around with the vents so air flows through bonnet vents (as opposed to active aero) I assume?that price is plain silly though - how much is an OEM one?
Without the GT2 bracketry and ducting, the air will flow out underneath as normal which it's not designed to do.
With the correct gubbins, air flows up and over the bonnet out the upper vent in the nose cone, which has some aero advantages and works in tandem with the increased downforce exhibited by the rear wing.
Naturally, Porsche have massively inflated the conversion parts.
Upper radiator bracket:
Turbo - £40.69
GT2 - £259.94
jimPH said:
Adam B said:
jimPH said:
GT2 nose cone. Add another 5k to the cost of ownership and that's for a copy (if you want it to be active). Worthit though.
active as in playing around with the vents so air flows through bonnet vents (as opposed to active aero) I assume?that price is plain silly though - how much is an OEM one?
Without the GT2 bracketry and ducting, the air will flow out underneath as normal which it's not designed to do.
With the correct gubbins, air flows up and over the bonnet out the upper vent in the nose cone, which has some aero advantages and works in tandem with the increased downforce exhibited by the rear wing.
Naturally, Porsche have massively inflated the conversion parts.
Upper radiator bracket:
Turbo - £40.69
GT2 - £259.94
The wing cost me 2K inc fitting and paint (Genuince OEM part) Comes with a carbon fibre fan cover though which is nice.
Edited by Never you mind on Thursday 22 November 14:50
Prices were pulled up by the general bubble and silly inflation in certain models eg 993 turbo and lack of depreciation in 991 turbos.
Manual 996 and 997.1 turbos should maintain an appeal with the reliable old-school charm of the Mezger engine although 997.2 turbos will be propped up too
The spread comes out about because some silly SOR prices from people who don’t accept the market has softened.
Manual 996 and 997.1 turbos should maintain an appeal with the reliable old-school charm of the Mezger engine although 997.2 turbos will be propped up too
The spread comes out about because some silly SOR prices from people who don’t accept the market has softened.
Edited by Adam B on Monday 31st December 02:20
Cobalt blue. All I'll say is that if anyone looked at my service history bills from 6 years old and 60,000 miles most people would run a mile buying a used turbo for daily driving although for me its still the best sports GT out there even now for use on our wet and leafy roads. The new engine under warranty which I had to fight Porsche for was £30k and a particular highlight - included brand new turbos, new exhaust as Porsche ship everything in one unit on a replacement turbo engine.
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