19th rs track day oulton park 8th march
Discussion
BertBert said:
So, what are you saying? That is complete rubbish. The secret of all corners is not to turn in early. I could make a living out of being a race coach saying turn in later. I totally accept the two phase turn in. A little then a lot. But that does not equate to turn in early.
And as for the wet. That goes out the window. Going round the outside (buffalo girls) is the norm. It equates to finding bits of the track with less rubber. Those bits not normally used.
There was loads of grip on the outside of druids on Friday. I wasn't running data logging to tell, but my experience tells me that the outside line had lots of pace in it.
Bert
Bert its horses for courses as you know,with my historic racer with the tall side tyres i preload the tyres for turn in,in the dry,as you say in the wet no matter,taught that by a top coach years ago,generally the fastest line in the wet is the line with the most grip,but not always as it can be car/tyre dependant.And as for the wet. That goes out the window. Going round the outside (buffalo girls) is the norm. It equates to finding bits of the track with less rubber. Those bits not normally used.
There was loads of grip on the outside of druids on Friday. I wasn't running data logging to tell, but my experience tells me that the outside line had lots of pace in it.
Bert
a well set up 911 has amazeing grip out of the corner in the wet with correct tyres on for the conditions with out worrying about the pendulum effect which can used to great advantage.
I remember years ago poor oh colin McRae was out pre race practiceing,it was wet,colin went by me up clay hill with a extra 100bhp in the wet,i was struggling trying to find grip with 500bhp, both of us in 993gt2.We both went deep down the left,my line missed the bigger bump on exit left then,sadly colin hit another car and stacked in the barrier on the right,the exit bump was a b
h with big bhp and wet,especially when your gear change was around this point!
Jevvy said:
Not many people posting wet lap vids - yu big bunch of jessies!
My Mrs put you all to shame!
She probably drives smoother than you in the wet;)My Mrs put you all to shame!
The track was empty in the afternoon wet,which was good fun,but understandable with some of the cars there and a tricky track in places.
Steve Rance said:
On the contrary, when driving a 911 weight transfer is your best friend
Its far to simplistic to generalise all cars , tyres have moved on,some have not.Weight transfer of a early 911 is vital,track,rally or hillclimb,a mid 90,s 911 not so much and a different technique is required to get the best out of it,the later rsr with aero,big tyres loads of grip is different again as it will run fairly flat through the corners with out much understeer depending when you accelerate,but this is not down to just driving tech,dampers and springs have changed massively,areo understanding even for porsche,tyres not so much but important.
The front of a 911 has always been the pain,not the rear in raceing terms when you get to know them.
Some usefull reading info for track day tuition and understanding basis of varying corners and lines etc.Sorry taffy its not in welsh gobly gook
https://www.racelogic.co.uk/_downloads/Misc/Racelo...
https://www.racelogic.co.uk/_downloads/Misc/Racelo...
Taffy66 said:
Yellow491 said:
Some usefull reading info for track day tuition and understanding basis of varying corners and lines etc.Sorry taffy its not in welsh gobly gook
https://www.racelogic.co.uk/_downloads/Misc/Racelo...
https://www.racelogic.co.uk/_downloads/Misc/Racelo...
I'll study these later. However don't you recall after the beers we had in the Alvaney Arms last Friday night , you promised free driving tuition for a side of beef..https://www.racelogic.co.uk/_downloads/Misc/Racelo...
https://www.racelogic.co.uk/_downloads/Misc/Racelo...
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