What is a fair price for this 964?
Discussion
Seen the following 964 and it seems to have an interesting history, however, it didn't sell privately and is now in auction via Coys (yes, have read previous posts regarding them and hoping that they don't burn buyers as well as sellers).
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1163876
Just wondering what would be a fair price for it? This would be my first Porsche and I prefer 964s over all other models and am particularly drawn to this one due to its widebody and restoration.
Apologies if this post features a member's car.
TIA
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1163876
Just wondering what would be a fair price for it? This would be my first Porsche and I prefer 964s over all other models and am particularly drawn to this one due to its widebody and restoration.
Apologies if this post features a member's car.
TIA
I think at £50k tops thats fair money. Not worth more as a cab and tip. I've seen a Paul Stephens resto 964 at Howard Wise car with virtually no miles. Some of his creations are good restorations and some are not so you need to inspect the car or preferably someone who knows these cars to have a look around for you as when this car was restored Stephens was not using their current coach builders who are much better than with their earlier efforts of which I believe this is one. Its been in the classifieds for as long as I can remember. Be lovely to cruise around in on a Summer day 
I might be wrong, but there was a very similar car that was on the market a couple of years ago, for months and months with the price going up and down like a yo-yo, but never sold.
I’d be very cautious - could be ‘mutton dressed as lamb’.
And, as for 964s, the congnocenti will probably tell you that the most desirable models are - Coupe, Manual, Narrow-body, and Original - unless recognised improvements. Those wheels can’t do it any favours.
I’d be very cautious - could be ‘mutton dressed as lamb’.
And, as for 964s, the congnocenti will probably tell you that the most desirable models are - Coupe, Manual, Narrow-body, and Original - unless recognised improvements. Those wheels can’t do it any favours.
Thanks for the replies.
I did have an estimate in my head of late thirties max as I didn't feel it was anything too special, but factoring in the buyers premium of 15%, I think I will probably pass on it. My wife is warning me that if it's in auction, then there probably is something not quite right about it....
Many thanks
I did have an estimate in my head of late thirties max as I didn't feel it was anything too special, but factoring in the buyers premium of 15%, I think I will probably pass on it. My wife is warning me that if it's in auction, then there probably is something not quite right about it....
Many thanks
It's worth what the market says it's worth, and the HK history isn't necessarily a benefit, but I'd say their estimate isn't all that far out. I paid more for mine (C16, manual) - so obviously I have an axe to grind, as it were - and the European market has them at around the 100-110k euro mark. It depends what value you place on rarity, I suppose. They made fewer of these than 964RS. They're not fast (at least, not RS fast), and much like the 3.6 Turbo, they don't really handle like a sports car, but they're lovely cruisers, they look much nicer than a standard cab, in my opinion at least, and they came very well equipped for the time.
Of course I have an RS as well, so I'm hedging my bets a bit, but I've had pretty good use out of my WTL cab despite all my whining about the restoration costs, and I don't regret buying it.
Of course I have an RS as well, so I'm hedging my bets a bit, but I've had pretty good use out of my WTL cab despite all my whining about the restoration costs, and I don't regret buying it.
What's your consensus on this one..
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I'm not in the market till spring next year but seems on the high side for the current market?
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I'm not in the market till spring next year but seems on the high side for the current market?
Try to get a late 92 or 93/94, they are less prone to engine leaks.
This looks nice.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-Porsche-911-3-6-96...
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This looks nice.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-Porsche-911-3-6-96...
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Edited by AmoCS on Friday 18th October 17:21
James_P said:
What's your consensus on this one..
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I'm not in the market till spring next year but seems on the high side for the current market?
Looks like a lovely clean, low mileage, 964 - in the classic desirable spec.https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I'm not in the market till spring next year but seems on the high side for the current market?
Suits the Guards Red, although personally not so keen on Linen trim. It's an early (1990) 964, but with the later wheels and mirrors.
Hairpin do get nice cars but their prices are often at the top end of ambitious, especially in the current market. However, I'd prefer that one to the wide-bodied Tiptronic Cab with silly wheels..
Edited by Koln-RS on Friday 18th October 17:33
If you are into Cab. tiptronic 964s then you are lucky, because they are the model least in demand of all the 964s so they are, or should be the cheapest.
This isn't.
I am less fortunate. I prefer manual C2 coupes, the most expensive, excl. RS etc.
Take your time, you should be able to find one cheaper/better than this. Try to buy privately from an enthusiast who knows how to look after a 964. Although they are not at all complicated and they certainly don't merit the extortionate labour charges that most specialist charge. Get in contact with the club maybe.
Don't necessarily ignore high mileage cars - better a high mileage car that has done regular miles and has had regular services and maintenance than a low mileage car that doesn't have any history. Any low mileage car that has been sat still for the last few years will need some attention before you can enjoy it.
Good luck. Seaching for an old 911 will no doubt be devouring a big part of your free time. Been there, done that
This isn't.
I am less fortunate. I prefer manual C2 coupes, the most expensive, excl. RS etc.
Take your time, you should be able to find one cheaper/better than this. Try to buy privately from an enthusiast who knows how to look after a 964. Although they are not at all complicated and they certainly don't merit the extortionate labour charges that most specialist charge. Get in contact with the club maybe.
Don't necessarily ignore high mileage cars - better a high mileage car that has done regular miles and has had regular services and maintenance than a low mileage car that doesn't have any history. Any low mileage car that has been sat still for the last few years will need some attention before you can enjoy it.
Good luck. Seaching for an old 911 will no doubt be devouring a big part of your free time. Been there, done that
Good luck whichever one you go for.
Would you consider a Tip? I believe they're about 10K cheaper. A gearbox change would be easy, and a 964 with a 6 speed LSD box from a 993 would be sweet. I believe you can pick up the boxes for 5K, maybe less if you go to the right places. You may find that you like the Tip box and not bother changing it. Many people do. Tip vs manual, probably more snobbery than anything else.
After the meteoric price rises of old 911s I believe they've levelled out - maybe even dropped a bit. Difficult to say really. Look at old videos or other content on the web and it seems like prices haven't risen in the last few years. And have you noticed how many aren't selling?
Hopefully the pound may strengthen too once we get this Brexit mess out of the way, and that will defo see prices falling (for us).
Who knows, it's anyone's guess currently where these prices are going.
Would you consider a Tip? I believe they're about 10K cheaper. A gearbox change would be easy, and a 964 with a 6 speed LSD box from a 993 would be sweet. I believe you can pick up the boxes for 5K, maybe less if you go to the right places. You may find that you like the Tip box and not bother changing it. Many people do. Tip vs manual, probably more snobbery than anything else.
After the meteoric price rises of old 911s I believe they've levelled out - maybe even dropped a bit. Difficult to say really. Look at old videos or other content on the web and it seems like prices haven't risen in the last few years. And have you noticed how many aren't selling?
Hopefully the pound may strengthen too once we get this Brexit mess out of the way, and that will defo see prices falling (for us).
Who knows, it's anyone's guess currently where these prices are going.
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