a 997 as a daily, long commuter and only car?
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Putting my sensible head on I would say stick with your Golf for the time being. Unless you can stretch to both.
I do a similar albeit shorter journey to you (Taunton-London) regularly and that would start to get very wearing in a 997. They are surprisingly comfortable but the tyre roar and stiff suspension isn’t much fun on the M4/M5. The road surface on the A303 is even worse.
I’ve got a BMW 520d for that journey then a 997.1 C2S for fun.
Taking my sensible head off, get the Porsche. Amazing cars.
I do a similar albeit shorter journey to you (Taunton-London) regularly and that would start to get very wearing in a 997. They are surprisingly comfortable but the tyre roar and stiff suspension isn’t much fun on the M4/M5. The road surface on the A303 is even worse.
I’ve got a BMW 520d for that journey then a 997.1 C2S for fun.
Taking my sensible head off, get the Porsche. Amazing cars.
Geoff39GL said:
I collected a Merc C63 AMG yesterday 2012, 16000 miles which will be advertised in the next week at about £20k
What an engine and what a sound it ran like a dream.
Some car for £20k
Fair point and probably more clockworkWhat an engine and what a sound it ran like a dream.
Some car for £20k
OP, I ran a second set of Wheels / Winters on my 997 Targa, highly recommend, although I am further north.
What about a nice Jaguar XK V8 to devour the miles...put 10k miles on her then flip.
Or even an XKR. Lovely Kyanite Blue one here with the right miles
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2020...
Sellers photos don't do it justice...should look like...
Or even an XKR. Lovely Kyanite Blue one here with the right miles
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2020...
Sellers photos don't do it justice...should look like...
Edited by Andyoz on Friday 24th July 01:30
Morning,
More good points. All well received. Due to circumstance I will end up running both, might use the 99X on a London trip now and again. WRT the bills, I think they are to be expected on any 16+ year old car, especially a prestige marque. I have 2 independents near me which is good, and have been talking to an absolute fountain of knowledge at Tower Porsche in London.
From my research, I'm looking at cars that have had some of the big stuff done already, which is raising the bar and price.
This also brings up the well asked WWW question: 996 C4S or 997 C2S, but I think I will see what I can get fr £20k, that is the newest with the most history.
More good points. All well received. Due to circumstance I will end up running both, might use the 99X on a London trip now and again. WRT the bills, I think they are to be expected on any 16+ year old car, especially a prestige marque. I have 2 independents near me which is good, and have been talking to an absolute fountain of knowledge at Tower Porsche in London.
From my research, I'm looking at cars that have had some of the big stuff done already, which is raising the bar and price.
This also brings up the well asked WWW question: 996 C4S or 997 C2S, but I think I will see what I can get fr £20k, that is the newest with the most history.
I did 10k per year with mine for 4 years, in Cumbria, across the top of the Lakes to work. Winter and summer. I put Sottozero winter tyres on every November and took them off for PS2s and 4s in March. I got 30mpg ish, but spent easily £1k on consumables/servicing/etc
It was noisy, and fun, and noisy
I honestly, honestly think with £20k you'd be better off with a mechanically reliable Boxster rather than 911, if you must drive a Porsche as your commute car
You're at the bottom end of the market for 997 (and 996 really) and you're just about to hammer the car. And as much as they are beautiful German machines, it is going to break down.
What do you do when on a wet Tuesday morning when it is broken on your drive and the parts are £700 and 4 days away?
As much as driving a 350bhp car is INCREDIBLE everyday. Yours is going to be a tired £20k 350bhp thing that, like a capricious wife will taunt, tire and tittliate you in a equal measure.
I eventually chopped my 997 in, because £950 for 4 tyres isn't funny after a while, and I now have an Up! GTi (awesome for the commute, 50mpg, and 997kg) and a Caterham
It was noisy, and fun, and noisy
I honestly, honestly think with £20k you'd be better off with a mechanically reliable Boxster rather than 911, if you must drive a Porsche as your commute car
You're at the bottom end of the market for 997 (and 996 really) and you're just about to hammer the car. And as much as they are beautiful German machines, it is going to break down.
What do you do when on a wet Tuesday morning when it is broken on your drive and the parts are £700 and 4 days away?
As much as driving a 350bhp car is INCREDIBLE everyday. Yours is going to be a tired £20k 350bhp thing that, like a capricious wife will taunt, tire and tittliate you in a equal measure.
I eventually chopped my 997 in, because £950 for 4 tyres isn't funny after a while, and I now have an Up! GTi (awesome for the commute, 50mpg, and 997kg) and a Caterham
Edited by The_Doc on Friday 24th July 12:14
Hi The_Doc,
Very contrasting view, I will more than likely keep the GTD for the mainstay of work duties and trudging around.
From my limited 996 / 997 research you are correct that 20k is the lower end of the 997 market mainly C2 or C2s in range. But some decent 996 C2s and a few questionable C4S.
For me it is an itch to scratch, some have reported trouble free motoring (I have never experienced that...) so I'm after something with a lot of recent history and major work carried out. Plus it is not forever....
Very contrasting view, I will more than likely keep the GTD for the mainstay of work duties and trudging around.
From my limited 996 / 997 research you are correct that 20k is the lower end of the 997 market mainly C2 or C2s in range. But some decent 996 C2s and a few questionable C4S.
For me it is an itch to scratch, some have reported trouble free motoring (I have never experienced that...) so I'm after something with a lot of recent history and major work carried out. Plus it is not forever....
I'd suggest if you're set on a 911 with £20k you'd be be to aim for a manual 996.2 C2 or C4 coupe.
Manual as it will be more fun and for the most time will be fine to do the longer journey between London and Plymouth. The auto would be a Tiptronic not the PDK (on Gen 2 997).
Probably C2/C4 depending on what comes up, with a C4 being a bit more sure footed in the winter months.
A manual C2 coupe is the sweet spot and will retain the most value, a C4 might be a little easier to find and slightly more affordable.
I'd skip the C4S as although they look lovely with that wide rear, they're carrying unnecessary weight without the grunt of the turbo.
Good luck.
Manual as it will be more fun and for the most time will be fine to do the longer journey between London and Plymouth. The auto would be a Tiptronic not the PDK (on Gen 2 997).
Probably C2/C4 depending on what comes up, with a C4 being a bit more sure footed in the winter months.
A manual C2 coupe is the sweet spot and will retain the most value, a C4 might be a little easier to find and slightly more affordable.
I'd skip the C4S as although they look lovely with that wide rear, they're carrying unnecessary weight without the grunt of the turbo.
Good luck.
dsgrnmcm said:
Hi The_Doc,
Very contrasting view, I will more than likely keep the GTD for the mainstay of work duties and trudging around.
From my limited 996 / 997 research you are correct that 20k is the lower end of the 997 market mainly C2 or C2s in range. But some decent 996 C2s and a few questionable C4S.
For me it is an itch to scratch, some have reported trouble free motoring (I have never experienced that...) so I'm after something with a lot of recent history and major work carried out. Plus it is not forever....
I think that would be a great outcome. Use the 911 for the odd sunny trip to London when you're in the mood for it. Need to keep the thrill of getting into that Porsche alive and 5 hour trips in mid winter might dull that...Very contrasting view, I will more than likely keep the GTD for the mainstay of work duties and trudging around.
From my limited 996 / 997 research you are correct that 20k is the lower end of the 997 market mainly C2 or C2s in range. But some decent 996 C2s and a few questionable C4S.
For me it is an itch to scratch, some have reported trouble free motoring (I have never experienced that...) so I'm after something with a lot of recent history and major work carried out. Plus it is not forever....
The_Doc said:
I did 10k per year with mine for 4 years, in Cumbria, across the top of the Lakes to work. Winter and summer. I put Sottozero winter tyres on every November and took them off for PS2s and 4s in March. I got 30mpg ish, but spent easily £1k on consumables/servicing/etc
It was noisy, and fun, and noisy
I honestly, honestly think with £20k you'd be better off with a mechanically reliable Boxster rather than 911, if you must drive a Porsche as your commute car
You're at the bottom end of the market for 997 (and 996 really) and you're just about to hammer the car. And as much as they are beautiful German machines, it is going to break down.
What do you do when on a wet Tuesday morning when it is broken on your drive and the parts are £700 and 4 days away?
As much as driving a 350bhp car is INCREDIBLE everyday. Yours is going to be a tired £20k 350bhp thing that, like a capricious wife will taunt, tire and tittliate you in a equal measure.
I eventually chopped my 997 in, because £950 for 4 tyres isn't funny after a while, and I now have an Up! GTi (awesome for the commute, 50mpg, and 997kg) and a Caterham
i think that is very honest tbhIt was noisy, and fun, and noisy
I honestly, honestly think with £20k you'd be better off with a mechanically reliable Boxster rather than 911, if you must drive a Porsche as your commute car
You're at the bottom end of the market for 997 (and 996 really) and you're just about to hammer the car. And as much as they are beautiful German machines, it is going to break down.
What do you do when on a wet Tuesday morning when it is broken on your drive and the parts are £700 and 4 days away?
As much as driving a 350bhp car is INCREDIBLE everyday. Yours is going to be a tired £20k 350bhp thing that, like a capricious wife will taunt, tire and tittliate you in a equal measure.
I eventually chopped my 997 in, because £950 for 4 tyres isn't funny after a while, and I now have an Up! GTi (awesome for the commute, 50mpg, and 997kg) and a Caterham
Edited by The_Doc on Friday 24th July 12:14
It's only one commute per week. Doing 2 or 3 of them would get very tedious for sure, but one Monday morning and one Thursday evening per week? I can't believe people couldn't stomach a 997 for that.
Obviously it is just one opinion but for that sort of weekly travel I'd far rather be in a 997 than any diesel hatchback... I would look forward to the (tedious) journey in a 911 and dread it in a normal car.
Obviously it is just one opinion but for that sort of weekly travel I'd far rather be in a 997 than any diesel hatchback... I would look forward to the (tedious) journey in a 911 and dread it in a normal car.
So yesterday I test drove a local 996 C2, it was immaculate and had a whole raft of Porsche and local Porsche SH. It is up for 14.5k.
On the test drive, it didin't set me on fire, admittedly I went there to just see one. The colour and type were not on my wish list.
I joined the 996/997 Facebook group for research as well, and the first thing that came up was my price entry point. Similar to the sentiment on here 20k is the low end for decent models.
So dug out an old copy of Modern Classics the Porsche edition (994,928,996 (Tagra) and Boxer), and the Flat Six Hero edition (Z4M, Cayman & 350Z)
just on entry point you get a newer, better spec (and advertised) Cayman or Z4M, with decent ones at 15k. I'll hopefully see teh 996 Tagra today, and the 997 C2S next week (In London, with awesome SH, 12k of bills and great garage recommendation)
Noting the comments about using the 99X as the London commuter, Ill just have to try it, I think.
On the test drive, it didin't set me on fire, admittedly I went there to just see one. The colour and type were not on my wish list.
I joined the 996/997 Facebook group for research as well, and the first thing that came up was my price entry point. Similar to the sentiment on here 20k is the low end for decent models.
So dug out an old copy of Modern Classics the Porsche edition (994,928,996 (Tagra) and Boxer), and the Flat Six Hero edition (Z4M, Cayman & 350Z)
just on entry point you get a newer, better spec (and advertised) Cayman or Z4M, with decent ones at 15k. I'll hopefully see teh 996 Tagra today, and the 997 C2S next week (In London, with awesome SH, 12k of bills and great garage recommendation)
Noting the comments about using the 99X as the London commuter, Ill just have to try it, I think.
I’d be on to this OP
Fab colour !
And Targa practicality with the hatch
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10428603
:scratch him: I note my old one is for sale.... owner has changed the lights to make it look like the newer generation- and put the S badge on it to suggest better ...... bad form
Fab colour !
And Targa practicality with the hatch
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10428603
:scratch him: I note my old one is for sale.... owner has changed the lights to make it look like the newer generation- and put the S badge on it to suggest better ...... bad form
PushedDover said:
I’d be on to this OP
Fab colour !
And Targa practicality with the hatch
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10428603
:scratch him: I note my old one is for sale.... owner has changed the lights to make it look like the newer generation- and put the S badge on it to suggest better ...... bad form
Is that not expensive? Fab colour !
And Targa practicality with the hatch
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10428603
:scratch him: I note my old one is for sale.... owner has changed the lights to make it look like the newer generation- and put the S badge on it to suggest better ...... bad form
This seems very good value - https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Used-Por...
Hi Pushed Over,
That is a smart car, one local to me for 15k. now viewing on Monday.
Joey 5
I'll have a look, did you get any pre inspection done?
Having thrown Cayman and Z4M in to the mix my indecision is going in to overdrive! Had a long chat with the garage owner of teh Z4M, he is taking it off for an overhaul and cam adjustment (a 30k service schedule) and should be viewing it on Thursday, it is the one from BMW Car magazine! although at £19k, with 77k. feels a little more than the market.
He also mentioned the Cayman 2.7 is a better buy over a 3.6.......
That is a smart car, one local to me for 15k. now viewing on Monday.
Joey 5
I'll have a look, did you get any pre inspection done?
Having thrown Cayman and Z4M in to the mix my indecision is going in to overdrive! Had a long chat with the garage owner of teh Z4M, he is taking it off for an overhaul and cam adjustment (a 30k service schedule) and should be viewing it on Thursday, it is the one from BMW Car magazine! although at £19k, with 77k. feels a little more than the market.
He also mentioned the Cayman 2.7 is a better buy over a 3.6.......
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