The Collecting Cars Porsche thread…

The Collecting Cars Porsche thread…

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jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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I got out bid on this

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1976-porsche-9...

would have paid more than the sale price also.

MrVert

4,397 posts

240 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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jason61c said:
I got out bid on this

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1976-porsche-9...

would have paid more than the sale price also.
Compared to some of the recent prices reached, that looks like a bit of a bargain..

g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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guyvert1 said:
g7jhp said:
The Good
Manual, C2, coupe in Polar Silver, 62k miles

Not So Good
Blue interior, retrimmed comfort seats and pre-varioram

I love Polar Silver on the 993, but it's not an investment spec car. At £51k+6% so £54k it would be a usable classic, at £80k £70k it's just overpriced and becomes a garage queen.
Fixed that for you...But can't fix your issues with pre-varioram ?
Oops miss-key.

When I bought my low mileage manual 993 C4 coupe (1996 so varioram) 30k miles for £32k from a reputable dealer, a gasket went within 1k miles and was a £500 fix at a local indie.

That £16k between CC selling and current offer price buys alot of future maintenance or a change of seats and interior.

Wilmslowboy

4,214 posts

207 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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jason61c said:
I got out bid on this

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1976-porsche-9...

would have paid more than the sale price also.
@jason61c

I pinged you an email about another potential option - cheers

Slippydiff

14,850 posts

224 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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guyvert1 said:
g7jhp said:
The Good
Manual, C2, coupe in Polar Silver, 62k miles

Not So Good
Blue interior, retrimmed comfort seats and pre-varioram

I love Polar Silver on the 993, but it's not an investment spec car. At £51k+6% so £54k it would be a usable classic, at £80k £70k it's just overpriced and becomes a garage queen.
Fixed that for you...But can't fix your issues with pre-varioram ?
As long as the motor is healthy, I wouldn't be concerned about the lack of VR.
A pair of decent cats and a remap courtesy of Wayne Schofield will see you at the VR's 286hp with ease (and probably a bit more too) and personally I find the non-VR motor is more "honest" than the the later motor with it's VR trickery.

I thought the 3.8 VR motor in the back of my 993 RS was somewhat "lacklustre", whereas the mapped and decatted, Cup piped engine in the back of the 964 RS (pretty much the same as the early 993 motor apart from the hydraulic tappets) was a wonderful and responsive piece of kit.


BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

175 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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g7jhp said:
That £16k between CC selling and current offer price buys alot of future maintenance or a change of seats and interior.
+1

Andyoz

2,889 posts

55 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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BrotherMouzone said:
g7jhp said:
That £16k between CC selling and current offer price buys alot of future maintenance or a change of seats and interior.
+1
...It also buys a nice Boxster to use alongside the air cooled in summer.

Some people seem to derive pleasure in being fleeced by dealers.

marky911

4,417 posts

220 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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jason61c said:
I got out bid on this

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1976-porsche-9...

would have paid more than the sale price also.
You probably dodged a bullet. Those engines are dire.
Chocolate headstuds and the crankcases warp if you so much as look at them.

I have to ask though, how did you get outbid if you’d have paid more than it went for? Surely if you had your maximum bid in you’d have won it. confused





birdcage

Original Poster:

2,840 posts

206 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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Andyoz said:
BrotherMouzone said:
g7jhp said:
That £16k between CC selling and current offer price buys alot of future maintenance or a change of seats and interior.
+1
...It also buys a nice Boxster to use alongside the air cooled in summer.

Some people seem to derive pleasure in being fleeced by dealers.
The site now just seems to be dealers who aren't dealers and sellers who are dealers. I thought the site would go a bit longer until the fun went out of it

g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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birdcage said:
The site now just seems to be dealers who aren't dealers and sellers who are dealers. I thought the site would go a bit longer until the fun went out of it
Collecting Cars do need to crack down on this or it'll lose all credibility. It should be a place for enthusiasts to sell to other enthusiasts.

jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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marky911 said:
You probably dodged a bullet. Those engines are dire.
Chocolate headstuds and the crankcases warp if you so much as look at them.

I have to ask though, how did you get outbid if you’d have paid more than it went for? Surely if you had your maximum bid in you’d have won it. confused
it means I was distracted doing dad duties.

pork911

7,165 posts

184 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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g7jhp said:
birdcage said:
The site now just seems to be dealers who aren't dealers and sellers who are dealers. I thought the site would go a bit longer until the fun went out of it
Collecting Cars do need to crack down on this or it'll lose all credibility. It should be a place for enthusiasts to sell to other enthusiasts.
I'm not sure it needs to be anything.

Regardless, 'enthusiasts selling to enthusiats' is just a romantic view of mere sold as seen, which an auction is anyway is it not?

julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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birdcage said:
I see this beauty is coming up again for the third time in as many weeks.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1994-porsche-9...

Perhaps third time of asking buyers will be too blinded by the colour to read the MOT history
lovely colour. Easy to get sucked in by the exterior looks but the interior is a ratty mess...what a state.

Slippydiff

14,850 posts

224 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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julian987R said:
lovely colour. Easy to get sucked in by the exterior looks but the interior is a ratty mess...what a state.
Maybe, but one man’s “ratty mess” is another man’s functional and/or usable.

isaldiri

18,605 posts

169 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Slippydiff said:
Maybe, but one man’s “ratty mess” is another man’s functional and/or usable.
Completely O/T - Slippy, sent you an email earlier in the week, hope you saw it and just to say again much appreciated for all the help thumbup

g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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pork911 said:
g7jhp said:
birdcage said:
The site now just seems to be dealers who aren't dealers and sellers who are dealers. I thought the site would go a bit longer until the fun went out of it
Collecting Cars do need to crack down on this or it'll lose all credibility. It should be a place for enthusiasts to sell to other enthusiasts.
I'm not sure it needs to be anything.

Regardless, 'enthusiasts selling to enthusiats' is just a romantic view of mere sold as seen, which an auction is anyway is it not?
Enthusiasts selling to enthusiasts may be a romantic view but it would help if CC ensured that traders are identified as traders. Not just using CC as a platform to get around their legal responsibilities.


You can see the enthusiasts who look after their cars and if they use CC to sell then great. I like the platform and the fact you can search and see historic sales by model.

breakfan

223 posts

147 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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julian987R said:
lovely colour. Easy to get sucked in by the exterior looks but the interior is a ratty mess...what a state.
Looks great for its age.

julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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breakfan said:
julian987R said:
lovely colour. Easy to get sucked in by the exterior looks but the interior is a ratty mess...what a state.
Looks great for its age.
until you open the door! smile

jjr1

3,023 posts

261 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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This lovely 718GT4 did not sell tonight.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-porsche-7...

MrVert

4,397 posts

240 months

Thursday 16th December 2021
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Saw that at £82k, did it get any higher?