Older backdate 911
Discussion
Hi Guys -
Does anyone know of a specialist in older backdate 911s
i think Paul Stephens used to do a number of options, but it seems the market is a little broader now.
I saw a vid a while back about a build that was I think based on 996 mechanicals. ??? - but this feels a step too far IMHO...
Are there any specialists stocking these?
or has the inflation of everything pre-97 mnake these less economical sensible that doing the same ten years ago or so?
saw this and loved the look - https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1984-porsche-9...
Does anyone know of a specialist in older backdate 911s
i think Paul Stephens used to do a number of options, but it seems the market is a little broader now.
I saw a vid a while back about a build that was I think based on 996 mechanicals. ??? - but this feels a step too far IMHO...
Are there any specialists stocking these?
or has the inflation of everything pre-97 mnake these less economical sensible that doing the same ten years ago or so?
saw this and loved the look - https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1984-porsche-9...
Orangecurry said:
Sorry no - but why not just buy that one and save yourself heaps of cash?
thats kinda what i'm asking - are there specialisty selling these type? This is beautiful - but rather at the top end. https://www.paul-stephens.com/current-availability...
Wasn't familiar with the mechanics of that collecting cars site - just assumed that it was an old ad - will have a dig in - cheers!
Edited by BERGS2 on Wednesday 24th February 10:09
Its not finished yet as there was a few bits I wanted to change. What I will say, is its much cheaper to buy one already done. You will not believe the premium on parts and labour for this stuff. Just my engine top end refresh and ITB conversion was 20k.
But if you buy one, you buy some else's project. So it's a tricky decision.
But if you buy one, you buy some else's project. So it's a tricky decision.
that looks awesome!
yeah - i've see that build costs can be pretty extreme -
if i were to go down this route, it would likely have to be someone elses project.
this one looks to have been a good buy - but is that 3.2 running a little oddly?(the youtube vid at the bottom)
rather like Chris Harris's one
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1969-porsche-3...
yeah - i've see that build costs can be pretty extreme -
if i were to go down this route, it would likely have to be someone elses project.
this one looks to have been a good buy - but is that 3.2 running a little oddly?(the youtube vid at the bottom)
rather like Chris Harris's one
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1969-porsche-3...
BERGS2 said:
that looks awesome!
yeah - i've see that build costs can be pretty extreme -
if i were to go down this route, it would likely have to be someone elses project.
this one looks to have been a good buy - but is that 3.2 running a little oddly?(the youtube vid at the bottom)
rather like Chris Harris's one
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1969-porsche-3...
Thank you. This route will be cheaper, you can always tailer it to suit your taste. Lots of aftermarket stuff available off the shelf. yeah - i've see that build costs can be pretty extreme -
if i were to go down this route, it would likely have to be someone elses project.
this one looks to have been a good buy - but is that 3.2 running a little oddly?(the youtube vid at the bottom)
rather like Chris Harris's one
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1969-porsche-3...
All I'd say is you're paying a premium for the 'look' with backdates and the marketplace is a minefield.
It's hard and expensive enough trying to find a good aircooled car be the an SC, 3.2 Carrera or 964. Which have a known value.
You then have the problem of value with backdates as all backdates are not equal.
As you can see doing it properly is expensive and the end value of a car is usually lower than the cost the original car plus build costs.
Worth taking your time and joining some of the aircooled Porsche sites e.g. DDK, ImpactBumpers etc.
It's hard and expensive enough trying to find a good aircooled car be the an SC, 3.2 Carrera or 964. Which have a known value.
You then have the problem of value with backdates as all backdates are not equal.
As you can see doing it properly is expensive and the end value of a car is usually lower than the cost the original car plus build costs.
Worth taking your time and joining some of the aircooled Porsche sites e.g. DDK, ImpactBumpers etc.
g7jhp said:
All I'd say is you're paying a premium for the 'look' with backdates and the marketplace is a minefield.
It's hard and expensive enough trying to find a good aircooled car be the an SC, 3.2 Carrera or 964. Which have a known value.
You then have the problem of value with backdates as all backdates are not equal.
As you can see doing it properly is expensive and the end value of a car is usually lower than the cost the original car plus build costs.
Worth taking your time and joining some of the aircooled Porsche sites e.g. DDK, ImpactBumpers etc.
You are highly unlikely to get your initial investment back. Which is why when I set out to spec mine, I had the intention of never selling. And I still think this way, I love everything about it and will eventually leave it to the kids. It's hard and expensive enough trying to find a good aircooled car be the an SC, 3.2 Carrera or 964. Which have a known value.
You then have the problem of value with backdates as all backdates are not equal.
As you can see doing it properly is expensive and the end value of a car is usually lower than the cost the original car plus build costs.
Worth taking your time and joining some of the aircooled Porsche sites e.g. DDK, ImpactBumpers etc.
PS2018 said:
"We don’t need to tell you that a custom carbon fiber clad 911 isn’t cheap"not half: https://www.topgear.com/car-news/classic/someones-...
VonSenger said:
Its not finished yet as there was a few bits I wanted to change. What I will say, is its much cheaper to buy one already done. You will not believe the premium on parts and labour for this stuff. Just my engine top end refresh and ITB conversion was 20k.
But if you buy one, you buy some else's project. So it's a tricky decision.
Looking good,if you look into the detail Of the top end with jenvey throttle bodies,ecu,loom,cams,mapping Exhaust etc,its easy to get to the those numbers if you cant do it yourself.But if you buy one, you buy some else's project. So it's a tricky decision.
If you keep for 10 plus years and use it alot the pay back cant be measured really,only in smiles if done correctly.
It soon adds up. The loom and throttle bodies alone are the best part of 10k. It's shocking how quickly it gets expensive. Then you have suspension, brakes and interior before you start thinking about paint work. And of course the car, I was lucky to pick up a great example from a collector so it had only recently been treated to a full rust repair and repaint. But if you need to rectify sills, windshield surround, floor pan or kidney bowls, I'd get the vaseline out and brace.
BERGS2 said:
Orangecurry said:
Sorry no - but why not just buy that one and save yourself heaps of cash?
thats kinda what i'm asking - are there specialisty selling these type? This is beautiful - but rather at the top end. https://www.paul-stephens.com/current-availability...
Wasn't familiar with the mechanics of that collecting cars site - just assumed that it was an old ad - will have a dig in - cheers!
Edited by BERGS2 on Wednesday 24th February 10:09
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