Taycan 4S Cross Turismo
Discussion
ds666 said:
I must say purchasing does look attractive based on the Lombard finance .
My big worry about buying now is that battery tech is getting better with every new launch ( e.g. i4 BMW ) , so range getting better and choice is also increasing by the week .
In 5 years the Porsche , great as it is now , may be "old hat " .
The way I see it is that it provides us more options with the only negatives being if the residual value tanks or there's a massive rethink in taxation. Worst case scenario is then we own the cars.My big worry about buying now is that battery tech is getting better with every new launch ( e.g. i4 BMW ) , so range getting better and choice is also increasing by the week .
In 5 years the Porsche , great as it is now , may be "old hat " .
I phoned Lombard this morning to confrim the apr - it's 3.4%
I think I'm going to struggle to beat that.
21ATS said:
The way I see it is that it provides us more options with the only negatives being if the residual value tanks or there's a massive rethink in taxation. Worst case scenario is then we own the cars.
I phoned Lombard this morning to confrim the apr - it's 3.4%
I think I'm going to struggle to beat that.
That deal with Lombard is untouchable.I phoned Lombard this morning to confrim the apr - it's 3.4%
I think I'm going to struggle to beat that.
NoPDK said:
My 4S has arrived.. now for some PPF on the front end and ready to go.. Not yet driven any kind of EV so excited to see what the future is all about. I came out of a Panamera ST GTS so will be interesting to compare
Can we assume that the car still has some suspension blocks in or does a Cross-Turismo really have that big a gap between wheel and arch?Colour looks very nice!
SWoll said:
Very nice, liking neptune blue more every time I see it.
Out of interest are there transport blocks on the suspension still or does the off road pack really ride that high?
Out of interest are there transport blocks on the suspension still or does the off road pack really ride that high?
Grr_Boris said:
Can we assume that the car still has some suspension blocks in or does a Cross-Turismo really have that big a gap between wheel and arch?
Colour looks very nice!
Great minds..Colour looks very nice!
NoPDK said:
My 4S has arrived.. now for some PPF on the front end and ready to go.. Not yet driven any kind of EV so excited to see what the future is all about. I came out of a Panamera ST GTS so will be interesting to compare
Very nice. I locked mine down this week. http://www.porsche-code.com/PM5P48T5
NoPDK said:
My 4S has arrived.. now for some PPF on the front end and ready to go.. Not yet driven any kind of EV so excited to see what the future is all about. I came out of a Panamera ST GTS so will be interesting to compare
Looks proper that! Very exciting to see customer cars arriving.Keep us posted how you get on. Sure it will be all good.
I went into my OPC today...a few things clarified:
1. They said the 150kw DC charger is fairly essential as Porsches are the only cars to run on 800V as it’s better for heat reduction. So if you don’t spec this and turn up to a normal 50kw charger, it will be 400V and the car won’t charge.
2. The charge pack you get as standard is a 3 pin and a 5 pin. It’s not waterproof so they suggest that’s plugged in, in the garage, then get the 7m cable so you can run it to the car outside. Of course, if you have a wall box then it’s just a usual Type 2 (I think) cable.
3. Without Sport +, there’s a sport button on the steering wheel. He thought Sport+ would do very little on an EV.
4. Their PCP figures were nearly £5k more over the term than my lease deal.
1. They said the 150kw DC charger is fairly essential as Porsches are the only cars to run on 800V as it’s better for heat reduction. So if you don’t spec this and turn up to a normal 50kw charger, it will be 400V and the car won’t charge.
2. The charge pack you get as standard is a 3 pin and a 5 pin. It’s not waterproof so they suggest that’s plugged in, in the garage, then get the 7m cable so you can run it to the car outside. Of course, if you have a wall box then it’s just a usual Type 2 (I think) cable.
3. Without Sport +, there’s a sport button on the steering wheel. He thought Sport+ would do very little on an EV.
4. Their PCP figures were nearly £5k more over the term than my lease deal.
JJMatrixx said:
I went into my OPC today...a few things clarified:
1. They said the 150kw DC charger is fairly essential as Porsches are the only cars to run on 800V as it’s better for heat reduction. So if you don’t spec this and turn up to a normal 50kw charger, it will be 400V and the car won’t charge.
2. The charge pack you get as standard is a 3 pin and a 5 pin. It’s not waterproof so they suggest that’s plugged in, in the garage, then get the 7m cable so you can run it to the car outside. Of course, if you have a wall box then it’s just a usual Type 2 (I think) cable.
3. Without Sport +, there’s a sport button on the steering wheel. He thought Sport+ would do very little on an EV.
4. Their PCP figures were nearly £5k more over the term than my lease deal.
1. That sounds like an absolute must, I'll have a chat with my dealer and add it if it is that important.1. They said the 150kw DC charger is fairly essential as Porsches are the only cars to run on 800V as it’s better for heat reduction. So if you don’t spec this and turn up to a normal 50kw charger, it will be 400V and the car won’t charge.
2. The charge pack you get as standard is a 3 pin and a 5 pin. It’s not waterproof so they suggest that’s plugged in, in the garage, then get the 7m cable so you can run it to the car outside. Of course, if you have a wall box then it’s just a usual Type 2 (I think) cable.
3. Without Sport +, there’s a sport button on the steering wheel. He thought Sport+ would do very little on an EV.
4. Their PCP figures were nearly £5k more over the term than my lease deal.
2. I feel it's pretty fundamental to get a wall box installed at home if you have one of these cars (if that's practical of course). I have a feeling the extension cable slows down the charge rate - you might want to check that.
3. My understand was Sport+ was where the "overboost" was accessed for launch starts. In so much as the car isn't using all the available power in any of the other modes but "full Banana Mode" was accessed in Sport +?
4. Get quotes from places other than Porsche (VWFS). The deal I got through Lombard was untouchable.
On a seperate point I have discovered I may have three phase leccy entering my house and was mildly excited that there's a chance I could fit a 22kw charger at home, only to notice when looking at the 150kw DC charger specs above there is another option below for 22KW AC for on board three phase charging, at a further £1200.
I know Porsche gouge with options, I get that from the outset but if the 150kw charge thingy is so absolutely imporant and future proofing the car that really should be in the base spec considering the 800v battery architecture is designed for it. Much of the other stuff is personal taste, but fundmentally being able to charge the car, that's really not an option.
21ATS said:
1. That sounds like an absolute must, I'll have a chat with my dealer and add it if it is that important.
2. I feel it's pretty fundamental to get a wall box installed at home if you have one of these cars (if that's practical of course). I have a feeling the extension cable slows down the charge rate - you might want to check that.
3. My understand was Sport+ was where the "overboost" was accessed for launch starts. In so much as the car isn't using all the available power in any of the other modes but "full Banana Mode" was accessed in Sport +?
4. Get quotes from places other than Porsche (VWFS). The deal I got through Lombard was untouchable.
On a seperate point I have discovered I may have three phase leccy entering my house and was mildly excited that there's a chance I could fit a 22kw charger at home, only to notice when looking at the 150kw DC charger specs above there is another option below for 22KW AC for on board three phase charging, at a further £1200.
I know Porsche gouge with options, I get that from the outset but if the 150kw charge thingy is so absolutely imporant and future proofing the car that really should be in the base spec considering the 800v battery architecture is designed for it. Much of the other stuff is personal taste, but fundmentally being able to charge the car, that's really not an option.
Yeah, the 150kw DC option is a joke.2. I feel it's pretty fundamental to get a wall box installed at home if you have one of these cars (if that's practical of course). I have a feeling the extension cable slows down the charge rate - you might want to check that.
3. My understand was Sport+ was where the "overboost" was accessed for launch starts. In so much as the car isn't using all the available power in any of the other modes but "full Banana Mode" was accessed in Sport +?
4. Get quotes from places other than Porsche (VWFS). The deal I got through Lombard was untouchable.
On a seperate point I have discovered I may have three phase leccy entering my house and was mildly excited that there's a chance I could fit a 22kw charger at home, only to notice when looking at the 150kw DC charger specs above there is another option below for 22KW AC for on board three phase charging, at a further £1200.
I know Porsche gouge with options, I get that from the outset but if the 150kw charge thingy is so absolutely imporant and future proofing the car that really should be in the base spec considering the 800v battery architecture is designed for it. Much of the other stuff is personal taste, but fundmentally being able to charge the car, that's really not an option.
I have 3 phase but tbh you really don’t need crazy fast charging at home as you just plug in every night so are always full. So I just have a cable run for a normal wall box, which isn’t yet installed due to house renovations, and my Tesla has been charged off a 3 pin plug for nearly 2 years. It charges at 10 miles /hour so think 120 miles overnight, which has never been an issue for me given my daily mileage.
Yeah, Sport+ has always been about launch control on ICE cars. Ie no launch on a C2S without it. So I think I’ll end up specing it.
Leasing is the only real option for me, as it’s the BIK that’s the biggest attraction. I’ve shopped around and enquired on leasing.com on the hitachi deal but once I added options, Pink were the ones that were keenest on price, and have been great to deal with tbh.
Found the deal here:
https://www.leaseloco.com/car-leasing/porsche/tayc...
Ref your
2. I feel it's pretty fundamental to get a wall box installed at home if you have one of these cars (if that's practical of course). I have a feeling the extension cable slows down the charge rate - you might want to check that.
I remember a youtuber once plugged his car in and didnt unwind the extention cable,it didn’t go well!
2. I feel it's pretty fundamental to get a wall box installed at home if you have one of these cars (if that's practical of course). I have a feeling the extension cable slows down the charge rate - you might want to check that.
I remember a youtuber once plugged his car in and didnt unwind the extention cable,it didn’t go well!
David W. said:
Ref your
2. I feel it's pretty fundamental to get a wall box installed at home if you have one of these cars (if that's practical of course). I have a feeling the extension cable slows down the charge rate - you might want to check that.
I remember a youtuber once plugged his car in and didnt unwind the extention cable,it didn’t go well!
It's the heat build up in the cable with no where to go which can be disastrous. Same with using a long extension lead for a lengthy time with the bulk of the cable still wrapped up tightly in the coil.2. I feel it's pretty fundamental to get a wall box installed at home if you have one of these cars (if that's practical of course). I have a feeling the extension cable slows down the charge rate - you might want to check that.
I remember a youtuber once plugged his car in and didnt unwind the extention cable,it didn’t go well!
JJMatrixx said:
I went into my OPC today...a few things clarified:
1. They said the 150kw DC charger is fairly essential as Porsches are the only cars to run on 800V as it’s better for heat reduction. So if you don’t spec this and turn up to a normal 50kw charger, it will be 400V and the car won’t charge.
2. The charge pack you get as standard is a 3 pin and a 5 pin. It’s not waterproof so they suggest that’s plugged in, in the garage, then get the 7m cable so you can run it to the car outside. Of course, if you have a wall box then it’s just a usual Type 2 (I think) cable.
3. Without Sport +, there’s a sport button on the steering wheel. He thought Sport+ would do very little on an EV.
4. Their PCP figures were nearly £5k more over the term than my lease deal.
1) Rubbish. Highest charge speed at 400v is 50kW but you will still be able to charge, just not get full speed on an older 400v 150kW charger. I'd still spec it though as pretty cheap as an arse covering exercise.1. They said the 150kw DC charger is fairly essential as Porsches are the only cars to run on 800V as it’s better for heat reduction. So if you don’t spec this and turn up to a normal 50kw charger, it will be 400V and the car won’t charge.
2. The charge pack you get as standard is a 3 pin and a 5 pin. It’s not waterproof so they suggest that’s plugged in, in the garage, then get the 7m cable so you can run it to the car outside. Of course, if you have a wall box then it’s just a usual Type 2 (I think) cable.
3. Without Sport +, there’s a sport button on the steering wheel. He thought Sport+ would do very little on an EV.
4. Their PCP figures were nearly £5k more over the term than my lease deal.
2) Standard stuff. You can also buy waterproof charge boxes for outdoors that the can be put in.
3) Sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about so giving a random opinion rather than actual info. I'd look into it further.
4) They've set the GFV low on the PCP so if you buy it outright at the end they've still made their money on the deal. On the lease you don't have the option to purchase so know they'll make it anyway. All of the risk is with the customer.
Surprises me how little the OPC staff still know about these cars, they've been selling them for almost 2 years now..
JJMatrixx said:
Leasing is the only real option for me, as it’s the BIK that’s the biggest attraction. I’ve shopped around and enquired on leasing.com on the hitachi deal but once I added options, Pink were the ones that were keenest on price, and have been great to deal with tbh.
Found the deal here:
https://www.leaseloco.com/car-leasing/porsche/tayc...
Interesting. What was their take on residual value on the options as with most its zero, and you're paying interest on the cost over the term?Found the deal here:
https://www.leaseloco.com/car-leasing/porsche/tayc...
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