Is this how it's going to be - Porsche hate??
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It happens, I started mine in Morrisons car park, Porsches tend to rev a lot when you start them, like a burst, this coupled with the sports exhaust, caused some lowlifes in a ancient people carrier van, think 80s Nissan paint missing type, to shout the normal abuse words at me, lovely.Had a few hand signals from white van men, I think it's the exhaust that does it, the howl does wind people up. Also if I'm with my smart looking wife, get some dirty looks. Does it bother me? nah, I'm living the dream.
981SPYGANG said:
Just me or do any of you also have the occasional day where you find yourself feeling a bit uncomfortable about your Porsche/expensive car ownership?
Not just you. I've struggled with it since picking up my GT4 as I really don't fit the ownership stereotype.Absolutely fantastic car, which I love to bits, but ownership can be a double-edged sword.
981SPYGANG said:
Just me or do any of you also have the occasional day where you find yourself feeling a bit uncomfortable about your Porsche/expensive car ownership?
No not at all its not unusual for me to work 8/9 hour days and lets put it this way Im not doing it for fun so why shouldnt I do stuff I likeJust remembered a comment from a few years ago.
I was going down to the launch of the 992 with a colleague. Was heading down a NSL dual carriageway minding my own business when I got cut up by a car (can't remember what it was).
I said "There's the guy who has to beat the guy in the Porsche"
The reply was "Yes, but the guy in the Porsche doesn't care".
I have stuck to that and ignored everyone who has looked at me the wrong way, or wanted to race ever since (most recently a guy in a Cupra who was revving his engine in traffic next to me.I ignored him and then drove straight past him as my lane moved faster than his).
I was going down to the launch of the 992 with a colleague. Was heading down a NSL dual carriageway minding my own business when I got cut up by a car (can't remember what it was).
I said "There's the guy who has to beat the guy in the Porsche"
The reply was "Yes, but the guy in the Porsche doesn't care".
I have stuck to that and ignored everyone who has looked at me the wrong way, or wanted to race ever since (most recently a guy in a Cupra who was revving his engine in traffic next to me.I ignored him and then drove straight past him as my lane moved faster than his).
I think Porsche's do attract their fair share of hate, mine is a 2.7 986 so very low on the spectrum of Porsche ownership, it's simply a toy to me and I love driving it when I bring it out of the garage but everyone from my own parents, to colleagues to neighbours seem to feel the need to express their opinions on it and mainly negative it has to be said, often i'm trying to show off or "I earn too much" it's a 7k car for god sake, or that's what I paid anyway, I imagine just about everyone who I work with has a car which cost more.
For perspective I also own a BMW M240i which cost not far off three times as much as my little Boxster and no one seems to care less about that.
For perspective I also own a BMW M240i which cost not far off three times as much as my little Boxster and no one seems to care less about that.
There have been various surveys of these types of the years, but the one that sticks in my mind is "1/3 of middle class people couldn't pay an unexpected £500 bill." And that was years ago when times were better. Consider now all the COVID job losses and the massive rise in cost of living, people have even less cash knocking about. Most people must only be a month or so away from bailiffs being at the door. If you're on the bones of your arse, and you see people cruising around in their dream world with a sports car, immune from the current challenges, it must sting a bit.
I don't condone their grotty, brain-dead, neanderthal behaviour for a second and similarly I don't buy people's claims that it isn't jealously. What is it then? Not many emotions in this world generate that kind of response. It certainly isn't "Oh I thought he ruined his car by putting a wing on it, so I called him a "$%&". It's jealousy.
I don't condone their grotty, brain-dead, neanderthal behaviour for a second and similarly I don't buy people's claims that it isn't jealously. What is it then? Not many emotions in this world generate that kind of response. It certainly isn't "Oh I thought he ruined his car by putting a wing on it, so I called him a "$%&". It's jealousy.
Edited by david-j8694 on Wednesday 30th March 15:21
david-j8694 said:
There have been various surveys of these types of the years, but the one that sticks in my mind is "1/3 of middle class people couldn't pay an unexpected £500 bill." And that was years ago when times were better. Consider now all the COVID job losses and the massive rise in cost of living, people have even less cash knocking about. Most people must only be a month or so away from bailiffs being at the door. If you're on the bones of your arse, and you see people cruising around in their dream world with a sports car, immune from the current challenges, it must sting a bit.
I don't condone their grotty, brain-dead, neanderthal behaviour for a second and similarly I don't buy people's claims that it isn't jealously. What is it then? Not many emotions in this world generate that kind of response. It certainly isn't "Oh I thought he ruined his car by putting a wing on it, so I called him a £$%&". It's jealousy.
Some people just get their kicks from bursting other people's balloons (or egos). These people are imbeciles. I don't condone their grotty, brain-dead, neanderthal behaviour for a second and similarly I don't buy people's claims that it isn't jealously. What is it then? Not many emotions in this world generate that kind of response. It certainly isn't "Oh I thought he ruined his car by putting a wing on it, so I called him a £$%&". It's jealousy.
toasty said:
david-j8694 said:
There have been various surveys of these types of the years, but the one that sticks in my mind is "1/3 of middle class people couldn't pay an unexpected £500 bill." And that was years ago when times were better. Consider now all the COVID job losses and the massive rise in cost of living, people have even less cash knocking about. Most people must only be a month or so away from bailiffs being at the door. If you're on the bones of your arse, and you see people cruising around in their dream world with a sports car, immune from the current challenges, it must sting a bit.
I don't condone their grotty, brain-dead, neanderthal behaviour for a second and similarly I don't buy people's claims that it isn't jealously. What is it then? Not many emotions in this world generate that kind of response. It certainly isn't "Oh I thought he ruined his car by putting a wing on it, so I called him a £$%&". It's jealousy.
Some people just get their kicks from bursting other people's balloons (or egos). These people are imbeciles. I don't condone their grotty, brain-dead, neanderthal behaviour for a second and similarly I don't buy people's claims that it isn't jealously. What is it then? Not many emotions in this world generate that kind of response. It certainly isn't "Oh I thought he ruined his car by putting a wing on it, so I called him a £$%&". It's jealousy.
On a similar note, I was told a story by a blue collar acquaintance about how he'd been at a service station having food, when a guy on the opposite table had got up without his expensive sunglasses and walked off. His response was "if it'd been anyone else I'd have called after him, but he was some suit so I thought F it, plenty of money he can buy another pair." Was a really innocuous story but it left such a bitter taste in my mouth.
The worst I've had (apart from all the hand gestures and cutting up) is having an egg thrown into my open top Alfa Spyder at the time. Took forever to clean out and still found dried white and shell pieces months later. Went on a Euro trip in the same Spyder and couldn't get enough compliments!
I like convertibles. Always have since before they were trendy. They aren’t generally fashionable as a car type now. That dubious accolade goes to SUV’s.
MX5’s, Boxsters and Elises can all be rage magnets. They are often driven by people who just enjoy driving and that can enrage the perpetually angry and eternally resentful crowd. They don’t want to see people driving cars to enjoy themselves.
A late plate Porsche with a big wing can also send an unintended message to this group. It’s deciphered as ‘I’m
More successful than you’ This isn’t a message that appreciated either.
All of this can be avoided. Buy an old Range Rover, Any decade old 3 series (must not be in good condition) or Some type of crew cab pick up, with an aggressive name.
No one will even make eye contact with you, much less shout an obscenity. You may not enjoy driving so much. But you won’t ever be subject to road rage either.
MX5’s, Boxsters and Elises can all be rage magnets. They are often driven by people who just enjoy driving and that can enrage the perpetually angry and eternally resentful crowd. They don’t want to see people driving cars to enjoy themselves.
A late plate Porsche with a big wing can also send an unintended message to this group. It’s deciphered as ‘I’m
More successful than you’ This isn’t a message that appreciated either.
All of this can be avoided. Buy an old Range Rover, Any decade old 3 series (must not be in good condition) or Some type of crew cab pick up, with an aggressive name.
No one will even make eye contact with you, much less shout an obscenity. You may not enjoy driving so much. But you won’t ever be subject to road rage either.
I think the UK has the ideal of 'keep up with the Joneses'
Poor people buying a large oled TV instead of bettering themselves, or millennials living at home but buying a car and going on holidays instead of moving out as buying a flat doesn't 'show' much compared with the holidays/clothes/cars etc etc.
So when we drive our Porsches you will get admirer's but also at the other end people think c**t. Usually as they wish they had it or whatever they consider equivalent.
Poor people buying a large oled TV instead of bettering themselves, or millennials living at home but buying a car and going on holidays instead of moving out as buying a flat doesn't 'show' much compared with the holidays/clothes/cars etc etc.
So when we drive our Porsches you will get admirer's but also at the other end people think c**t. Usually as they wish they had it or whatever they consider equivalent.
981SPYGANG said:
Interesting thread.
I feel the huge spoiler combined with a bright colour doesn’t help…..as previously mentioned great for a track but on our traffic congested roads not needed so much. Jealous idiots find it too hard to restrain themselves.
Only car I’ve ever had negativity towards was a red 911 (964) I owned in the 90’s.
Ferrari’s all attracted positive comments, people just admired/commented on their styling.
Current grey Spyder thankfully goes under the radar.
Ditto the negative attention in a Guards red 964. I feel the huge spoiler combined with a bright colour doesn’t help…..as previously mentioned great for a track but on our traffic congested roads not needed so much. Jealous idiots find it too hard to restrain themselves.
Only car I’ve ever had negativity towards was a red 911 (964) I owned in the 90’s.
Ferrari’s all attracted positive comments, people just admired/commented on their styling.
Current grey Spyder thankfully goes under the radar.
Quietly driving along the main road through Bala and some young scrote threw a fairly hefty piece of a branch at the car, before running off. The branch hit the windscreen and bounced off without doing any damage. I didn't stop, as I knew I wouldn't be able to catch him, and I figured it may have been a diversionary technique to make me stop the car and get out to give chase (hopefully with the keys left in the ignition and running ?)
The only other incident was whilst taking a mate for a test drive in a Midnight blue 996 GT2, as we returned to his office with the windows down, one lad in a group of 5 or 6 that were walking along the pavement started ranting, we drove past them (it was a 30mph limit) and parked up outside my mate's office and got out, the tirade continued from afar and continued as he and his mates walked past the car on the opposite side of the road. Neither I or my mate paid any attention, nor indeed heard what he was saying (other than it was s
t car) but he was clearly trying to impress his mates. Knowing the town, I suspect he was drunk or had been smoking/injecting recreational pharmaceuticals all afternoon...The two Zanzibar 996 GT3's I owned received nothing but positive comments from males and females. White van men seemed particularly smitten with it, and I remember one incident on a very hot day on the M42 when I had both the drivers and passenger windows down, and both the driver and the passenger of a van were bawling out of the drivers window what an awesome car it looked and sounded.
I was getting off at the next junction, and they followed me off.
We stopped for the traffic lights on the sliproad, and they pulled up alongside and reiterated what an awesome car it was, and that it sounded amazing.
They requested I give it some from the lights, so I duly obliged ...
kmpowell said:
Oh dear, I have a bright green GT4 arriving next month, I’ll report back… 
Python? Be prepared; today some bloke walking his dog was mouthing obscenities at me as I went past at about 15 mph and later on, a bloke in a black people carrier came haring up behind me - when I slowed down to turn right, I realised he was filming me with his phone, no hands on the wheel! A couple of weeks ago, I gave way to a pedestrian crossing the way in a supermarket car park and he shouted at me to "fking slow down", even though I had been crawling along and then stopped for him. Some bloke at work came up to me and said "nice car, but green, really?". I must admit, it gets a bit tedious.
981SPYGANG said:
Just me or do any of you also have the occasional day where you find yourself feeling a bit uncomfortable about your Porsche/expensive car ownership?
Definitely. My 911, especially with the roof down on the Holloway Road. Once I’m out of London I couldn’t care less but in built up areas it’s sometimes a bit uncomfortable. In my Boxster I just look like a sad bloke in the midst of a midlife crisis so people probably feel sorry for me!I felt particularly uncomfortable a few years ago when there were a lot of muggings by t
ts on scooters wielding large knives. At least that’s subsided now the local cops are allowed to ram them. Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff