Is this how it's going to be - Porsche hate??
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Yes I too drive like a vicar and just give way to all the Audis and AMG MBs and M BMWs out there desperate to overtake my comparatively underpowered and NA GT4.....parking up I am sometimes a bit concerned, you are hardly invisible, and so I also always let kids and mothers and Dads (in that order) have a sit in if they look interested, happens all the time. Tell them all about the car, what I do with it how fast it goes etc. I suppose that at 6ft and 100kg with a chonky staffordshire bull terrier most people are just pleased I am friendly! Once I've done this, no one has been rude to me. Mind you, I no longer wear the Rolex Dad gave me when Mum died....just asking for it in my area.
TBH I get the sort of the same...
When I had a Caterham and Elise, nothing but smiles and waves. No issues being cut up or tailgated etc.
When I got my first 987.2 Boxster, frequently got the coffee bean symbol and not let out onto roundabouts.......
Although now I have a 718 Boxster, not really noticed any issues......
Maybe the 987 looked a bit 911ish??? So generally hated by other road users??
To the untrained eye a GT4 does look a teeny bit like a 911?
When I say untrained eye I mean a jealous nob who hates anyone who appears to have more money than they do
When I had a Caterham and Elise, nothing but smiles and waves. No issues being cut up or tailgated etc.
When I got my first 987.2 Boxster, frequently got the coffee bean symbol and not let out onto roundabouts.......
Although now I have a 718 Boxster, not really noticed any issues......
Maybe the 987 looked a bit 911ish??? So generally hated by other road users??
To the untrained eye a GT4 does look a teeny bit like a 911?
When I say untrained eye I mean a jealous nob who hates anyone who appears to have more money than they do
Racing rabbit said:
TBH I get the sort of the same...
When I had a Caterham and Elise, nothing but smiles and waves. No issues being cut up or tailgated etc.
When I got my first 987.2 Boxster, frequently got the coffee bean symbol and not let out onto roundabouts.......
Although now I have a 718 Boxster, not really noticed any issues......
Maybe the 987 looked a bit 911ish??? So generally hated by other road users??
To the untrained eye a GT4 does look a teeny bit like a 911?
When I say untrained eye I mean a jealous nob who hates anyone who appears to have more money than they do
I honestly don't know why, but I've never had anything like that in the Lotus. People get pissed off when I'm in German cars sometimes though. No real idea why, other than one is made in England.When I had a Caterham and Elise, nothing but smiles and waves. No issues being cut up or tailgated etc.
When I got my first 987.2 Boxster, frequently got the coffee bean symbol and not let out onto roundabouts.......
Although now I have a 718 Boxster, not really noticed any issues......
Maybe the 987 looked a bit 911ish??? So generally hated by other road users??
To the untrained eye a GT4 does look a teeny bit like a 911?
When I say untrained eye I mean a jealous nob who hates anyone who appears to have more money than they do
Racing rabbit said:
TBH I get the sort of the same...
When I had a Caterham and Elise, nothing but smiles and waves. No issues being cut up or tailgated etc.
When I got my first 987.2 Boxster, frequently got the coffee bean symbol and not let out onto roundabouts.......
Although now I have a 718 Boxster, not really noticed any issues......
Maybe the 987 looked a bit 911ish??? So generally hated by other road users??
To the untrained eye a GT4 does look a teeny bit like a 911?
When I say untrained eye I mean a jealous nob who hates anyone who appears to have more money than they do
Absolutely it does. Non-car people bunch all Porsche into a single category of post-Volkswagens. Anything from the 911 on I would say.When I had a Caterham and Elise, nothing but smiles and waves. No issues being cut up or tailgated etc.
When I got my first 987.2 Boxster, frequently got the coffee bean symbol and not let out onto roundabouts.......
Although now I have a 718 Boxster, not really noticed any issues......
Maybe the 987 looked a bit 911ish??? So generally hated by other road users??
To the untrained eye a GT4 does look a teeny bit like a 911?
When I say untrained eye I mean a jealous nob who hates anyone who appears to have more money than they do
You see it also when there is an accident. Collision reporting: "a white van and a car collided" or "a white van and a Porsche sports car collided". Might be a 25 year old car but they never fail to mention it.
I get a fairly neutral response in my 987 Cayman, no different from other cars I drive which is nice. It doesn't really stand out apart from being smaller than most other cars these days.
When I first got a lotus exige a good few years ago now I got a really funny reaction. There was a kids football match going on and one of the teams stopped playing and ran to the fence pointing and shouting. This left the other team stood confused with the ball but no team to play with.
Bit of an over reaction for an exige but it certainly made me laugh.
Dunc.
When I first got a lotus exige a good few years ago now I got a really funny reaction. There was a kids football match going on and one of the teams stopped playing and ran to the fence pointing and shouting. This left the other team stood confused with the ball but no team to play with.
Bit of an over reaction for an exige but it certainly made me laugh.
Dunc.
dunc_sx said:
I get a fairly neutral response in my 987 Cayman, no different from other cars I drive which is nice. It doesn't really stand out apart from being smaller than most other cars these days.
When I first got a lotus exige a good few years ago now I got a really funny reaction. There was a kids football match going on and one of the teams stopped playing and ran to the fence pointing and shouting. This left the other team stood confused with the ball but no team to play with.
Bit of an over reaction for an exige but it certainly made me laugh.
Dunc.
Exige gets a disproportionate amount of attention for a car of its price bracket. Funny thing I found was that the Elise far less, for effectively the same car but in cabrio form. When I first got a lotus exige a good few years ago now I got a really funny reaction. There was a kids football match going on and one of the teams stopped playing and ran to the fence pointing and shouting. This left the other team stood confused with the ball but no team to play with.
Bit of an over reaction for an exige but it certainly made me laugh.
Dunc.
It will be the spoiler , what looks like a body kit and monster alloys and maybe the “4.0” if it displays cubic capacity .
Tree huggers , Greta types will query why oh why didn’t you get a cooking modal ?
None pork aficionados will challenge the what appears to be boy racer add ons on todays pot holed , speed camera ridden roads .
Those worried about the next fill up availability ( shortages etc ) will mentally challenge why you disproportionately are guzzling more with it .
So as well as the std 0.1 % of the population consisting of jealousy white van men it’s attracted a whole lot of newer and larger hate audiences over a cooking piece of pork .
That’s why you see it every ride out .
What colour is it btw ? A speed yellow , snake green or dog nob red just gains more viewers so finds more haters than a more subtle colour .
Experience wise I had a Testarossa for 10 yrs in red btw .Uber respect everywhere folks just filmed me and thumbs up .No one tail gated or raced postured .Even plod respected it .One copper just wanted to sit in at at a fuel station .
My current GT 4 Dino just gets thumbs up by white van man , they wind there windows down on motorways to gesture .Again a fuel stations conversations just pleasantly spontaneously happen .
Thus far in our cooking 987.2 with the hood down + head scarfed ( the princess grace look ) wife pottering about we see zero Porsche hate as she poddles off to Lidl in it .
Zero hate from the Macan SD …it’s diesel motifs on the front wings have been removed btw .
Macans are 10 a penny though pretty much blend in with the rest of the SUV crowd not as in your face as say a smoked glass black G wagon 63 or full fat 70 plater RRover , or Bentayga etc .
No hate with theses .
Note both std OEM single exhaust.No boy racer twin on the Box or quad on the Ferrari it’s a rare single .
Tree huggers , Greta types will query why oh why didn’t you get a cooking modal ?
None pork aficionados will challenge the what appears to be boy racer add ons on todays pot holed , speed camera ridden roads .
Those worried about the next fill up availability ( shortages etc ) will mentally challenge why you disproportionately are guzzling more with it .
So as well as the std 0.1 % of the population consisting of jealousy white van men it’s attracted a whole lot of newer and larger hate audiences over a cooking piece of pork .
That’s why you see it every ride out .
What colour is it btw ? A speed yellow , snake green or dog nob red just gains more viewers so finds more haters than a more subtle colour .
Experience wise I had a Testarossa for 10 yrs in red btw .Uber respect everywhere folks just filmed me and thumbs up .No one tail gated or raced postured .Even plod respected it .One copper just wanted to sit in at at a fuel station .
My current GT 4 Dino just gets thumbs up by white van man , they wind there windows down on motorways to gesture .Again a fuel stations conversations just pleasantly spontaneously happen .
Thus far in our cooking 987.2 with the hood down + head scarfed ( the princess grace look ) wife pottering about we see zero Porsche hate as she poddles off to Lidl in it .
Zero hate from the Macan SD …it’s diesel motifs on the front wings have been removed btw .
Macans are 10 a penny though pretty much blend in with the rest of the SUV crowd not as in your face as say a smoked glass black G wagon 63 or full fat 70 plater RRover , or Bentayga etc .
No hate with theses .
Note both std OEM single exhaust.No boy racer twin on the Box or quad on the Ferrari it’s a rare single .
Edited by Fiammetta on Saturday 7th May 08:58
Edited by Fiammetta on Saturday 7th May 09:44
If I'm in my Cayman I get let out of junctions much, much quicker than if I'm in my wife's Qashqai.
If I'm outside cleaning it or getting in/out in car parks people come and talk to me about it, it was the same for my previous pork, a 996 and 997.
Maybe you just have one of those faces 😊
I had a mate once, nicest guy ever but looked like Vinnie Jones, he would get targeted in pubs and was always in fights 😮
If I'm outside cleaning it or getting in/out in car parks people come and talk to me about it, it was the same for my previous pork, a 996 and 997.
Maybe you just have one of those faces 😊
I had a mate once, nicest guy ever but looked like Vinnie Jones, he would get targeted in pubs and was always in fights 😮
I once came back to the car to find an ice cream and cone left stuck to the bonnet of my grey 986 Boxster when parked outside the Jameson distillery in Midleton. Another time I had some teenage girls (13/14 years old I guess) wave at me as I drove past with the roof down, at first I thought them nice only for one to shout 'f@ggot' at me. I assume only 'f@ggot' drive with the roof down!?
Another guy here I know that owns a 2.5 Boxster 986 had a hole burnt in the plastic 'glass' of the soft top a few nights ago.
My 997 I have often had boy racers tailgating me. A few weeks ago in traffic at road works with 2 lanes filtering into one I had a very irate driver of a Nissan Qashqai doing everything he possibly could to not let me in. And when I did filter in in front of him, I got the blasts of the horn, shouting and screaming and the finger. No idea why other than he doesn't like my car. My 911 I would be very cautious about where I'd park it, around here they are not that common so tend to stand out that bit more.
The other car I noticed I had regular trouble with was my old R53 Cooper S. The amount of drivers that would try and bully me out of the way or pull out in front of me was very high. I assume it was because they thought it was a woman driving.
My old Honda S2000 was the car I got most compliments for, the young and old loved it. The DC5 Integra Type R I had though, a boy racer magnet.
Another guy here I know that owns a 2.5 Boxster 986 had a hole burnt in the plastic 'glass' of the soft top a few nights ago.
My 997 I have often had boy racers tailgating me. A few weeks ago in traffic at road works with 2 lanes filtering into one I had a very irate driver of a Nissan Qashqai doing everything he possibly could to not let me in. And when I did filter in in front of him, I got the blasts of the horn, shouting and screaming and the finger. No idea why other than he doesn't like my car. My 911 I would be very cautious about where I'd park it, around here they are not that common so tend to stand out that bit more.
The other car I noticed I had regular trouble with was my old R53 Cooper S. The amount of drivers that would try and bully me out of the way or pull out in front of me was very high. I assume it was because they thought it was a woman driving.
My old Honda S2000 was the car I got most compliments for, the young and old loved it. The DC5 Integra Type R I had though, a boy racer magnet.
I’m relatively new to Porsche ownership and have a guards red 991.2 C4S convertible and I’ve had nothing but positive responses (so far!). When I’ve had the top down on a sunny day with the kids in the back I’ve had nothing but thumbs up and even a few people taking photos if they’ve been following.
I think it depends on where you live.
When I took my 911 to see my mother around where I grew up (which isn't so nice), then you are aware that a lot more people are looking at you, and there were quite a few gestures. I think it's simply because a 'flash' car is quite a rare site. I take the 16 year old Volvo now.
Conversely, where I now live, which is much more affluent, people don't bat an eyelid.
Jealousy sadly seems to explain a lot of human behaviour.
When I took my 911 to see my mother around where I grew up (which isn't so nice), then you are aware that a lot more people are looking at you, and there were quite a few gestures. I think it's simply because a 'flash' car is quite a rare site. I take the 16 year old Volvo now.
Conversely, where I now live, which is much more affluent, people don't bat an eyelid.
Jealousy sadly seems to explain a lot of human behaviour.
Colour or generally how lairy a car is definitely has an impact. My old man had a couple of black 430 Spiders over a ten year period and I might have had someone shout an obscenity at me once in all that time, when he swapped it for a yellow 458 Speciale, I literally made it 100 yards out of their front gate down a country lane before someone in a van shouted 'd
head' at me 
Spent a fair bit of time last week driving it around as I took it to a charity event, and actually I don't feel like people are as negative about it as they were a few years ago. It's definitely polarising, some people hate your guts and are looking for a reason to create conflict, but I also had a lot of positivity and nice comments.
Porsches do seem to generally garner more negative feeling though
head' at me Spent a fair bit of time last week driving it around as I took it to a charity event, and actually I don't feel like people are as negative about it as they were a few years ago. It's definitely polarising, some people hate your guts and are looking for a reason to create conflict, but I also had a lot of positivity and nice comments.
Porsches do seem to generally garner more negative feeling though
I don’t really get any negative interactions in the GT4, I can only think of one, some prize bellend in a clapped out diesel Merc was right up my behind whilst I was lost in Leeds city centre.
Just the other night on the M60 in the shopping car, some road warrior got very upset as I dared to move to the outside lane as he was coming up (slowly) behind me, cue flashing, giving me the finger, making sure to give me the finger as he passed
I don’t think it’s a car thing, I think some people are just massive throbbers, sometimes you run into them sometimes you don’t.
Just the other night on the M60 in the shopping car, some road warrior got very upset as I dared to move to the outside lane as he was coming up (slowly) behind me, cue flashing, giving me the finger, making sure to give me the finger as he passed
I don’t think it’s a car thing, I think some people are just massive throbbers, sometimes you run into them sometimes you don’t.
Rojibo said:
I don’t think it’s a car thing, I think some people are just massive throbbers, sometimes you run into them sometimes you don’t.
I was getting on a train the other day (commuting from the smoke), going to sit down when someone who had just realised where he was realised he had to get up and out of the carriage. He was sitting at a table, I generally leave those for people who need them.I sat down in the window seat I was shooting for away from the table, in order to get out of his way (and frankly to sit down because i was tired).
He knocked on the window as he walked past after getting off, giving me the coffee bean signal for some reason.
TL; DR some people are penii.
Some tttishness occurs whatever you're driving, such as in merging situations. Unfortunately, having something out of the ordinary will occasionally result in a different type of behaviour, ranging from shouting abuse to tailgating and vandalism. It's just the world we live in.
Generally it's a price worth paying and you can ignore most negativity. The only thing I'm particularly wary of is leaving a nice car unattended.
ttishness occurs whatever you're driving, such as in merging situations. Unfortunately, having something out of the ordinary will occasionally result in a different type of behaviour, ranging from shouting abuse to tailgating and vandalism. It's just the world we live in.Generally it's a price worth paying and you can ignore most negativity. The only thing I'm particularly wary of is leaving a nice car unattended.
CraigyMc said:
Rojibo said:
I don’t think it’s a car thing, I think some people are just massive throbbers, sometimes you run into them sometimes you don’t.
I was getting on a train the other day (commuting from the smoke), going to sit down when someone who had just realised where he was realised he had to get up and out of the carriage. He was sitting at a table, I generally leave those for people who need them.I sat down in the window seat I was shooting for away from the table, in order to get out of his way (and frankly to sit down because i was tired).
He knocked on the window as he walked past after getting off, giving me the coffee bean signal for some reason.
TL; DR some people are penii.
From observational experience, that clears a train of everyone who suddenly cannot find their ticket, remember their own name/address or where their bank card is in their pocket for the fine.
Hol said:
CraigyMc said:
Rojibo said:
I don’t think it’s a car thing, I think some people are just massive throbbers, sometimes you run into them sometimes you don’t.
I was getting on a train the other day (commuting from the smoke), going to sit down when someone who had just realised where he was realised he had to get up and out of the carriage. He was sitting at a table, I generally leave those for people who need them.I sat down in the window seat I was shooting for away from the table, in order to get out of his way (and frankly to sit down because i was tired).
He knocked on the window as he walked past after getting off, giving me the coffee bean signal for some reason.
TL; DR some people are penii.
From observational experience, that clears a train of everyone who suddenly cannot find their ticket, remember their own name/address or where their bank card is in their pocket for the fine.
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