Are 997 gen 1 / gen 2s over priced?

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Ok so hears another question - gonna open a can of worms I feel…

PASM or no PASM?

And was PASM an option on the non S models… I think a few hear mentioned PASM standard on all S models?

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Thanks for everyone’s comments on this by the way… defo been enlightened. Time for me to go make some decisions but pretty much set on gen 2.

But I think what I will do is defo try out a gen 1 with Hartech rebuild… noise is probably as important as everything else. And everyone sounds like they agree the gen 1 is the better sounding engine.

I’m a good few months away if I get gen 2 - so will update whoever is interested down the line

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Yeh UK doesn’t have the best of roads… so PASM isn’t too important and option for me, don’t really intend to track car, just crossing continents fast.

That CSR looks stunning. Honestly I think if I had 60k lying around, I’d probably go for that over a new Emira / M2 or other sports coupe that’s new.

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Da Original Whyayedee said:

So for me at the moment its between

This: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211201...

It's had a Hartech Rebuild to 4,5 and 6, a full rebuild will obviously be more desirable, but speaking to Hartech rebuilding that bank is likely to be sufficient to see you good. I am pretty sure its Midnight blue, nice colour, and has had some good work done it aside from the Rebuild too.

And then this Gen2, again looks lovely, people have said its cheap for a Gen2 but with its mileage I think it's been priced accordingly, well its been listed since August, so no one has snapped it up in a few months. So maybe there is a little bit to come off it too.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13781783

So its £9k difference, which is a big dent in the budget for the other things I'd like to do (Coilovers, wheels, exhaust etc) I am going around in circles a bit, time is running out too for me to get one for my 40th which doesn't have to happen, but it would be a pretty sweet birthday if it can all be tied up.

I hear ya man… I guess with any used sports car you need a 2-3k spare anyway after purchase.

The 997.1 is a big saving considering it has the Hartech rebuild. I need to speak with Hartech again… wanted to find out what’s the highest mileage someone’s done since a Hartech rebuild, even if these are bombproof post rebuild. Leave you plenty of cash to tweak.

But the 997.2 - is a 997.2. First world problems

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If your not bothered by mileage - there’s a 30k gen 2 in silver…

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125616419056

I just bring myself to buy a 100k mile car for 30k

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Da Original Whyayedee said:

I did, I went with this one 997.1

Engine rebuilt by Hartech 7000 miles ago,Ok, not all 6 Cylinders but after speaking to Hartech who have been brilliant with advice and phonically in my search determined this was not a 100% full proof bet, but a pretty strong option. Not seen a midnight blue car in the flesh before but even on a really dank day like today and a max of 4 degrees it looked and drove absolutely superb, which is probably testament to a good car.

Few jobs being undertaken on it (New discs and pads all round, rear brake lines, and front crossover coolant pipes replaced) before picking it up next week on my 40th. Taking my dad along to who's dream it was to have a 911, unfortunately a dream that has passed him by now. He doesn't know I have bought it, he just thinks we're going to look at some nice cars for the day, I have insured him on it too. Hopefully the plan all comes together.

Yeh defo the better option out of the two you shared. Not sure what the third was.
Car looks awesome I’m sure it won’t disappoint

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Lowest price I’ve found for a gen 2.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125616419056?mkcid=16&a...

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Any r8 owners here that were previously in 997.2s? Or vice versa?

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awesome man - and you got it with the best wheels in my opinion for the 997. Hope it brings a lot of driving joy over the years

Da Original Whyayedee said:

So, today was the day, I managed to keep it all under wraps and we got the train over. Only when we were stood infront of the barn where it was being stored I told my dad “We’ve only really come to see one car today to be honest” and the covers were pulled back “And we’re taking it back with us” man his face!




Absolutely love it, don’t think it’s fully sunk in yet. Also he’s just starting on this venture but Graham at Oakley Classic Cars was an absolute pleasure to deal with and nothing was too much.

Now a birthday curry, and probably some starting out of the kitchen window.

Edited by Da Original Whyayedee on Monday 5th December 17:54

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Yeh I wouldn't look much into WBAC valuations - thats a trade price they give and a low one too. I wouldn't even look at Autotrader / PistonHeads prices too much as some stay on sale forever, and you dont know what the actual sale prices are for car ads that get taken down.

Collecting Cars show actual sale price - so thats the best way to judge where values are at.

The most recents sales are at prices below - of all the different versions excluding Turbos/GT/Cabs - all cars in top notch condition:

£21k - 2006 Carrera (69k miler)
£35k - 2009 Carrera Gen 2 (51k miler)

£23k - 2005 C2S (63k miler)
£31.2k - 2009 C2S Gen 2 (82k miler)

£25.2 - 2006 C4 Targa (51k miler)
C4 Gen 2 (non sold)

£21.2k - 2006 C4S (94k miler)
£42k - 2010 C4S Gen 2 (51k miler)

sniff diesel said:

Seeing this thread made me look to see what my old 997.1S would be worth in the current market. I bought a 97k mile 2 owner car for £19k in 2015, sold 2 years and 6000 miles later for £19,600 but having just serviced, new tyres and brakes so didn’t actually make any money off it.

Despite a WBAC valuation of £14500 similar cars on auto trader are advertised at the same as they were in 2015-17 so it would appear the 997 is still at the level where it is depreciation proof.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202210100...

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Da Original Whyayedee said:

Yeah, I was contemplating BBS CH-R's a lot, and I still think they look great too, but the lobsters really do suit this car so well. Needs some spacers though I think. They're an odd wheel, when they came out I loved them, wanted to put a set on my T5 at the time, then I fell out of love with them for a long period, now I think they suit the car perfectly again, funny how our tastes change. And its great as the £2000 allocated to new wheels can be spent on something else instead.

We only have 2 Tea Bags left in the house today, and I haven't checked the local shops, but I have a hunch they are going to be out, I think the closest shop with some Yorkshire Gold on the shelves is in Abergavenny! Oh well....needs must!

I think Scottish Highlands have great Yorkshire Gold… but also this really great shop in the Austrian alps.

As for the alloys - each to their own, do whatever you like dude. But if it was me, I’d spend that 2k on either ducktail / retrimmed steering wheel / alacantra hand break and shift trim / CarPlay, (without making new holes in the dash - as some people do). Or an exhaust maybe?

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I know this is a gen 2 - but quite tasteful.
I would prefer non lowered stance.

https://youtu.be/BUmH5LVaGQc