Lots of brand new Porsches immediately available
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Dimebars said:
911hope said:
Just looked at the only 911 available new. asking price is £2K above list, when considering the options in the configurator.
So no discount here and if there is a rule about selling for above list it is being ignored.
What makes you think there would be a discount?So no discount here and if there is a rule about selling for above list it is being ignored.
Dimebars said:
911hope said:
There are a bunch of 2023 registered cars also advertised, with negligable mileage.
For example there are 9 911 cars.. of course they are over-optioned and priced accordingly.
Even some GT3s... obviously with huge premium over list.
Over optioned in your eyesFor example there are 9 911 cars.. of course they are over-optioned and priced accordingly.
Even some GT3s... obviously with huge premium over list.
Porsche are very good at telling folk.they need this stuff.
Edited by 911hope on Friday 17th March 14:05
It may be that we see more available.
Brief chat with my OPC last week, said they’d been informed they would see an approx 20% uplift in new car allocations this year. Lots of work in the background to get delivery times back to 3-6mths as Porsche were starting to experience an increase in cancelled orders with people getting bored of waiting 12-18mths.
Brief chat with my OPC last week, said they’d been informed they would see an approx 20% uplift in new car allocations this year. Lots of work in the background to get delivery times back to 3-6mths as Porsche were starting to experience an increase in cancelled orders with people getting bored of waiting 12-18mths.
neilf said:
It may be that we see more available.
Brief chat with my OPC last week, said they’d been informed they would see an approx 20% uplift in new car allocations this year. Lots of work in the background to get delivery times back to 3-6mths as Porsche were starting to experience an increase in cancelled orders with people getting bored of waiting 12-18mths.
Oh dear, I hope this is not the start of Porsche trying to become the next BMW! Brief chat with my OPC last week, said they’d been informed they would see an approx 20% uplift in new car allocations this year. Lots of work in the background to get delivery times back to 3-6mths as Porsche were starting to experience an increase in cancelled orders with people getting bored of waiting 12-18mths.
neilf said:
It may be that we see more available.
Brief chat with my OPC last week, said they’d been informed they would see an approx 20% uplift in new car allocations this year. Lots of work in the background to get delivery times back to 3-6mths as Porsche were starting to experience an increase in cancelled orders with people getting bored of waiting 12-18mths.
There are 141 new cars on Porsche UK's site, plus 75 2023 registered cars. Some of these have less than 10 miles.Brief chat with my OPC last week, said they’d been informed they would see an approx 20% uplift in new car allocations this year. Lots of work in the background to get delivery times back to 3-6mths as Porsche were starting to experience an increase in cancelled orders with people getting bored of waiting 12-18mths.
So increasing availability, all of a sudden.
The VW group annual report shows Porsche sales up 5.5%, with production up 19% in 2022.
While this should improve supply, it would seem that something else is going on, since there have been huge backlogs reported.
Surely this backlog should have been able to mop up the additional production!
So there must be some other factors at play, leading to cancellations.
Interest rates are at 11% for new cars, which may drive some cancellations.
Cost of living crisis may drive some cancellations.
There may be some general drop off in demand in some markets(regions), leading to more allocation for UK.
There may be cancellations of speculative orders (people ordering believing they can sell used at a profit), as new supply improves.
Hopefully, we are approaching a time when used cars are actually cheaper than new ones and a new one can be ordered and delivered within 6 months.
I think the explanation is different.
Almost without exception, the immediately available cars are massively over-specced (many have £20k+ in options).
I think Porsche have a new marketing ploy: wait 12 months for the car you want, or get one immediately if you're prepared to pay way over the odds.
Almost without exception, the immediately available cars are massively over-specced (many have £20k+ in options).
I think Porsche have a new marketing ploy: wait 12 months for the car you want, or get one immediately if you're prepared to pay way over the odds.
Vroomer said:
I think the explanation is different.
Almost without exception, the immediately available cars are massively over-specced (many have £20k+ in options).
I think Porsche have a new marketing ploy: wait 12 months for the car you want, or get one immediately if you're prepared to pay way over the odds.
I'm sure they will try this as much as they can, but there has to be a limit to the number of stupid customers available.Almost without exception, the immediately available cars are massively over-specced (many have £20k+ in options).
I think Porsche have a new marketing ploy: wait 12 months for the car you want, or get one immediately if you're prepared to pay way over the odds.
If new lead times do come down, the over-spec rip-off model will falter.
Vroomer said:
I think the explanation is different.
Almost without exception, the immediately available cars are massively over-specced (many have £20k+ in options).
I think Porsche have a new marketing ploy: wait 12 months for the car you want, or get one immediately if you're prepared to pay way over the odds.
also seems odd they didn't have enough chips for basics like LED headlights and then decided to throw 20k of crap on to a bunch of cars. very oddAlmost without exception, the immediately available cars are massively over-specced (many have £20k+ in options).
I think Porsche have a new marketing ploy: wait 12 months for the car you want, or get one immediately if you're prepared to pay way over the odds.
911hope said:
neilf said:
It may be that we see more available.
Brief chat with my OPC last week, said they’d been informed they would see an approx 20% uplift in new car allocations this year. Lots of work in the background to get delivery times back to 3-6mths as Porsche were starting to experience an increase in cancelled orders with people getting bored of waiting 12-18mths.
There are 141 new cars on Porsche UK's site, plus 75 2023 registered cars. Some of these have less than 10 miles.Brief chat with my OPC last week, said they’d been informed they would see an approx 20% uplift in new car allocations this year. Lots of work in the background to get delivery times back to 3-6mths as Porsche were starting to experience an increase in cancelled orders with people getting bored of waiting 12-18mths.
So increasing availability, all of a sudden.
The VW group annual report shows Porsche sales up 5.5%, with production up 19% in 2022.
While this should improve supply, it would seem that something else is going on, since there have been huge backlogs reported.
Surely this backlog should have been able to mop up the additional production!
So there must be some other factors at play, leading to cancellations.
Interest rates are at 11% for new cars, which may drive some cancellations.
Cost of living crisis may drive some cancellations.
There may be some general drop off in demand in some markets(regions), leading to more allocation for UK.
There may be cancellations of speculative orders (people ordering believing they can sell used at a profit), as new supply improves.
Hopefully, we are approaching a time when used cars are actually cheaper than new ones and a new one can be ordered and delivered within 6 months.
150 new ones advertised.
Perhaps the customer appetite for paying premium prices has diminished.
911hope said:
Looks like these over-specified/priced 2023 used cars are not exactly selling like hot cakes. 74 of the 75 are still on sale.
150 new ones advertised.
Perhaps the customer appetite for paying premium prices has diminished.
Be a bit more specific re new cars.....150 new ones advertised.
Perhaps the customer appetite for paying premium prices has diminished.
0 718
0 911
3 Macan
19 Taycan
35 Panamera
93 Cayenne
That says to be theres a challenge shifting Cayenne, Panamera and Taycan's.
The Macans are all dripping in [over]spec - or they'd have gone.
neilf said:
It may be that we see more available.
Brief chat with my OPC last week, said they’d been informed they would see an approx 20% uplift in new car allocations this year. Lots of work in the background to get delivery times back to 3-6mths as Porsche were starting to experience an increase in cancelled orders with people getting bored of waiting 12-18mths.
My OPC was told that a few months ago…they’ve hired new Sales Execs and are doubling the size of their new car showroom having only built it three years ago. I don’t think it’s about bringing wait lists down although that is a consequence (that’s what they might have been told) it’s about growing sales because they were IPO’d last year….look what happened to Ferrari sales volumes when they were listed. Brief chat with my OPC last week, said they’d been informed they would see an approx 20% uplift in new car allocations this year. Lots of work in the background to get delivery times back to 3-6mths as Porsche were starting to experience an increase in cancelled orders with people getting bored of waiting 12-18mths.
Not really sure what the “ sales execs” do other than take orders
Porsche have a configurator and personally I would love it if there was a buy button and they just deliver it. Save al thd dealer cost
They now want the showroom “ to be a destination “ thd marketing fairy has got involved. Porsche reading gave me lunch the other week. Lovely but why ? That is what pret is for
Porsche have a configurator and personally I would love it if there was a buy button and they just deliver it. Save al thd dealer cost
They now want the showroom “ to be a destination “ thd marketing fairy has got involved. Porsche reading gave me lunch the other week. Lovely but why ? That is what pret is for
Jeremy-75qq8 said:
Not really sure what the “ sales execs” do other than take orders
Porsche have a configurator and personally I would love it if there was a buy button and they just deliver it. Save al thd dealer cost
They now want the showroom “ to be a destination “ thd marketing fairy has got involved. Porsche reading gave me lunch the other week. Lovely but why ? That is what pret is for
I get your point, but for many buying a Porsche is an experience and people do want advice on how to spec. Porsche have a configurator and personally I would love it if there was a buy button and they just deliver it. Save al thd dealer cost
They now want the showroom “ to be a destination “ thd marketing fairy has got involved. Porsche reading gave me lunch the other week. Lovely but why ? That is what pret is for
One could follow your logic and say "Porsche. Lovely, but why? That's what a Toyota's for"
Edited by First Sea Lord on Tuesday 21st March 16:57
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