Lots of brand new Porsches immediately available

Lots of brand new Porsches immediately available

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Forester1965

1,619 posts

4 months

Sunday 28th January
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I was scratching my head thinking 'ICE? Why would you spend so long looking at the engine?'

Then I twigged!

Chemical Ali

912 posts

218 months

Sunday 28th January
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Guyr said:
cayman-black said:
Yes, imo an Aston is cheaper to run than a Porsche except for fuel. Far classier also.
How so (I'm genuinely curious)?

Porsche have 20k/2 year services, whereas Aston have 1year/10k, though certain Astons do get free servicing for the first 3-5 years.

Also the warranty for Porsche is under £1k per annum, whereas I believe Astons are £2.5k+....?

Astons also depreciate far quicker than 911s.

Am I missing something?
Missing nothing. People are generally negative about economy, world affairs, the future. Part of the effects is the asset devaluation, specific to us the porsche brand. But when you really look, porsche looks the least worst of the brands you could be invested in.

fflump

1,393 posts

39 months

Sunday 28th January
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Chemical Ali said:
Guyr said:
cayman-black said:
Yes, imo an Aston is cheaper to run than a Porsche except for fuel. Far classier also.
How so (I'm genuinely curious)?

Porsche have 20k/2 year services, whereas Aston have 1year/10k, though certain Astons do get free servicing for the first 3-5 years.

Also the warranty for Porsche is under £1k per annum, whereas I believe Astons are £2.5k+....?

Astons also depreciate far quicker than 911s.

Am I missing something?
Missing nothing. People are generally negative about economy, world affairs, the future. Part of the effects is the asset devaluation, specific to us the porsche brand. But when you really look, porsche looks the least worst of the brands you could be invested in.
I agree Porsche seems like the least worst of the prestige brands for running costs. Used stock on OPC forecourts (virtual or otherwise) seems to be generally competitively priced, often in a very similar ballpark to non-franchise dealers and dreamer private sellers. Looking at price checker they are pretty proactive also at trimming the asking price if the car is not shifting. It means there is probably some further wiggle room in a negotiation. Add in a 2 year warranty and if you buy one with a recent service, you have a couple of years of motoring with only consumables to worry about. Good value IMO.


rawenghey

486 posts

22 months

Monday 29th January
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£75k gets you either a 991.2 GTS or a 2018/2019 Vantage with the 4.0 V8 AMG engine. As a used purchase would the Vantage be such a bad option?

Mach

493 posts

226 months

Monday 29th January
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rawenghey said:
£75k gets you either a 991.2 GTS or a 2018/2019 Vantage with the 4.0 V8 AMG engine. As a used purchase would the Vantage be such a bad option?
Only if you haven't driven the 991.2 GTS in my view. My (manual) 991.2 GTS was one of the best road cars I've ever had.

And you could still be driving it under the extended Porsche warranty which i think is excellent for £1k per annum.

Sold mine for £87.5K last September, has it really dropped to £75k? yikes

Edited by Mach on Monday 29th January 10:02

franki68

10,425 posts

222 months

Monday 29th January
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rawenghey said:
£75k gets you either a 991.2 GTS or a 2018/2019 Vantage with the 4.0 V8 AMG engine. As a used purchase would the Vantage be such a bad option?
Vantage drives well ,but interior is huge letdown and I would imagine will depreciate far more than a 911 .

PinkHouse

870 posts

58 months

Monday 29th January
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franki68 said:
rawenghey said:
£75k gets you either a 991.2 GTS or a 2018/2019 Vantage with the 4.0 V8 AMG engine. As a used purchase would the Vantage be such a bad option?
Vantage drives well ,but interior is huge letdown and I would imagine will depreciate far more than a 911 .
The Vantage interior is much more special than the 991.2 interior both in standard spec and when you go crazy with options. Your point about depreciation is spot on

Swine Enthusiast

312 posts

105 months

Monday 29th January
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Sidsw said:
its called wishful thinking!

their share price is getting hammered. 12% down since start, 35%from highs.

if they think china market is going to save them they need to think again. just had a friend come back from beijing and shanghai whos heavily involved in auto industry. he said all you see driving round now is chinese branded ev's and the brands are looking to dominate the market with government backing
It's all that "please manufacture your cars here/sell you cars here so we can scalp your IP"

Swine Enthusiast

312 posts

105 months

Monday 29th January
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TonyG2003 said:
I was talking to someone who bought a new DBX and lost £100k in 18months when they traded it in. Now that is depreciation.

The trouble for me with Astons is there ICE is (up until the DB12) old old Merc tech. It always feels wrong to pay so much for old tech. I appreciate it’s only on aspect of the car but it’s the bit you always are looking at.
Weird because people actually like old tech so long as it's reliable. See the Golf Mk7/Mk8 debacle.

tescor

489 posts

229 months

Monday 29th January
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Today's counts...



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Looks like West London went from 7 911s last week to 30 as of today!

RiccardoG

1,596 posts

273 months

Monday 29th January
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Quite a large overall decrease from the mid Dec peak of ~1400 to today though.

ben5575

6,296 posts

222 months

Monday 29th January
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Be interesting to see how many Taycans suddenly appear in March.

Perhaps they genuinely sold that many over December, however the cynic in me thinks that there was just too much noise around them not selling so they are restricting how many are up for sale at any one time to prevent (even more of) a collapse.

But as previously pointed out, my confirmation bias believes the figures when they support my view biggrin

bridggar1

91 posts

42 months

Monday 29th January
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PinkHouse said:
franki68 said:
rawenghey said:
£75k gets you either a 991.2 GTS or a 2018/2019 Vantage with the 4.0 V8 AMG engine. As a used purchase would the Vantage be such a bad option?
Vantage drives well ,but interior is huge letdown and I would imagine will depreciate far more than a 911 .
The Vantage interior is much more special than the 991.2 interior both in standard spec and when you go crazy with options. Your point about depreciation is spot on
Vantage is a different offering to the 911 IMO - having had 911 since 993 to 991.2 now in a 2021 Vantage, it's much more eventful, raw, comfortable and brutal. Not to say I won't go back to 911 as it its a fantastic machine - predictable, reliable and honed - but right now, I wanted special. I know it'll depreciate loads and reliability is yet to be validated, but buying experience was circa 1990's Porsche and - well, it's an Aston Martin.

Yellow491

2,933 posts

120 months

Monday 29th January
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tescor said:
Today's counts...



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Looks like West London went from 7 911s last week to 30 as of today!
Think your numbers are way out to what’s actually on the forecourts,a opc that i visited on saturday had way more,like more than i have ever seen.

Vroomer

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1,866 posts

181 months

Monday 29th January
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Yellow491 said:
Think your numbers are way out to what’s actually on the forecourts,a opc that i visited on saturday had way more,like more than i have ever seen.
They're not tescor's numbers – they're Porsche's numbers!

Vroomer

Original Poster:

1,866 posts

181 months

Monday 29th January
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tescor said:
Today's counts...



Looks like West London went from 7 911s last week to 30 as of today!
Brilliant. Thanks as usual.

ChrisW.

6,335 posts

256 months

Monday 29th January
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Very interesting to see, most of the reduction is in Taycans ... 911's are continuing to multiply ...

I've been watching GT3RS and GT4RS models and very little has moved in January ... maybe another month will see a change to this but prices are holding ... will discounts only become serious / prices re-adjust once cash-flow calls ... or Spring solves the affordability issue ?




swanseaboydan

1,734 posts

164 months

Monday 29th January
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I’m thinking of selling my 2018 targa GtS - should I wait until the sun has come out ? ( could be a long way away. .) or just see why I get for it now ?

Hereandthere

65 posts

50 months

Monday 29th January
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I sold my 991.2 18 reg Targa 4 GTS in December 2021 to Romans International for £97K ( I paid £117K for it in June 2019) and checked WBAC's the other day and noted that they would offer £65K for it.

Yellow491

2,933 posts

120 months

Monday 29th January
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Vroomer said:
Yellow491 said:
Think your numbers are way out to what’s actually on the forecourts,a opc that i visited on saturday had way more,like more than i have ever seen.
They're not tescor's numbers – they're Porsche's numbers!
Who ever numbers they are its far from correct,or some one is telling /writing porkies