Lots of brand new Porsches immediately available
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SMMT numbers for March are available - https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrati...
A 15% drop for Porsche for March, year on year...
Year to date sales are down almost 20% on last year
A 15% drop for Porsche for March, year on year...
Year to date sales are down almost 20% on last year
Youforreal. said:
GT4RS said:
Sidsw said:
very big discounts, added to opc loan car fleets and no new cars coming through as porsche ag try to manage the over supply mean that numbers have dropped. expect them to start increasing again as they start pushing out new model in next few months and porsche ag need to start building up sales figures again.
have been whispers that they will try drop number of cars back to 20k cars a year from the 26k+ they have pushed into the uk market the past year to try to make demand outstrip supply. cant see how that will work as im sure that shareholders will want to see numbers of sales increasing and not decreasing!
If porsche have to drop new car sales numbers by 26% like you mention above, that will be huge step backwards for them after they have pushed and pushed to ramp up Uk sales numbers. It will also have a huge impact on the number of staff needed in these opc. Most opc over the last 10 years are growing in size, not shrinking. have been whispers that they will try drop number of cars back to 20k cars a year from the 26k+ they have pushed into the uk market the past year to try to make demand outstrip supply. cant see how that will work as im sure that shareholders will want to see numbers of sales increasing and not decreasing!
Porsche Germany make the big profits from selling new cars, they will not want to go backwards.
If sales continue to slow, Uk opc will just have to become more creative on how they get their new car sales over the line.
Sadly I think a big factor to Porsches future success now lies with the new electric Macan and new Taycan.
Genuine question.
tescor said:
SMMT numbers for March are available - https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrati...
A 15% drop for Porsche for March, year on year...
Year to date sales are down almost 20% on last year
figures are probably worse than that. lots of cars have been pre registered over the past few months making figures look better than they are!A 15% drop for Porsche for March, year on year...
Year to date sales are down almost 20% on last year
Sidsw said:
Youforreal. said:
GT4RS said:
Sidsw said:
very big discounts, added to opc loan car fleets and no new cars coming through as porsche ag try to manage the over supply mean that numbers have dropped. expect them to start increasing again as they start pushing out new model in next few months and porsche ag need to start building up sales figures again.
have been whispers that they will try drop number of cars back to 20k cars a year from the 26k+ they have pushed into the uk market the past year to try to make demand outstrip supply. cant see how that will work as im sure that shareholders will want to see numbers of sales increasing and not decreasing!
If porsche have to drop new car sales numbers by 26% like you mention above, that will be huge step backwards for them after they have pushed and pushed to ramp up Uk sales numbers. It will also have a huge impact on the number of staff needed in these opc. Most opc over the last 10 years are growing in size, not shrinking. have been whispers that they will try drop number of cars back to 20k cars a year from the 26k+ they have pushed into the uk market the past year to try to make demand outstrip supply. cant see how that will work as im sure that shareholders will want to see numbers of sales increasing and not decreasing!
Porsche Germany make the big profits from selling new cars, they will not want to go backwards.
If sales continue to slow, Uk opc will just have to become more creative on how they get their new car sales over the line.
Sadly I think a big factor to Porsches future success now lies with the new electric Macan and new Taycan.
Genuine question.
Edited by Youforreal. on Thursday 4th April 12:06
Lots of brand new Porsches immediately available.
Isn't this the place to talk Porsche, numbers for sale ... and prices ?
Currently sales numbers and prices are down ... this isn't talking the brand down and they (Porsche) have been pretty unkind to many long term Porsche customers who were not allowed to buy the new car they wanted at any price, whilst creating an OPC controlled afters market at List ++
Hence the current position is of interest to many, even if they no longer own or wish to own a Porsche.
It's also of interest to many considering when would be a good time to buy ... particular given the high finance costs.
Why do you need so much explaining to you ?
Isn't this the place to talk Porsche, numbers for sale ... and prices ?
Currently sales numbers and prices are down ... this isn't talking the brand down and they (Porsche) have been pretty unkind to many long term Porsche customers who were not allowed to buy the new car they wanted at any price, whilst creating an OPC controlled afters market at List ++
Hence the current position is of interest to many, even if they no longer own or wish to own a Porsche.
It's also of interest to many considering when would be a good time to buy ... particular given the high finance costs.
Why do you need so much explaining to you ?
Edited by ChrisW. on Thursday 4th April 15:30
Sidsw said:
tescor said:
SMMT numbers for March are available - https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrati...
A 15% drop for Porsche for March, year on year...
Year to date sales are down almost 20% on last year
figures are probably worse than that. lots of cars have been pre registered over the past few months making figures look better than they are!A 15% drop for Porsche for March, year on year...
Year to date sales are down almost 20% on last year
Article on The Times website this afternoon about EV sales. Manufacturers have to hit a target for EV's of 22% of sales this year, fine of £15k per car if they miss it.
ChrisW. said:
Lots of brand new Porsches immediately available.
Isn't this the place to talk Porsche, numbers for sale ... and prices ?
Currently sales numbers and prices are down ... this isn't talking the brand down and they (Porsche) have been pretty unkind to many long term Porsche customers who were not allowed to buy the new car they wanted at any price, whilst creating an OPC controlled afters market at List ++
Hence the current position is of interest to many, even if they no longer own or wish to own a Porsche.
It's also of interest to many considering when would be a good time to buy ... particular given the high finance costs.
Why do you need so much explaining to you ?
Agreed these are interesting / important things particularly the finance aspect but there does also appear to be a focus on 'money loss' well if you haven't realised that buying a new car is a fun way of 'throwing away money' then maybe you shouldnt be buying new cars ? and before anyone says put your money where your mouth is my current count is 25 carsIsn't this the place to talk Porsche, numbers for sale ... and prices ?
Currently sales numbers and prices are down ... this isn't talking the brand down and they (Porsche) have been pretty unkind to many long term Porsche customers who were not allowed to buy the new car they wanted at any price, whilst creating an OPC controlled afters market at List ++
Hence the current position is of interest to many, even if they no longer own or wish to own a Porsche.
It's also of interest to many considering when would be a good time to buy ... particular given the high finance costs.
Why do you need so much explaining to you ?
Edited by ChrisW. on Thursday 4th April 15:30
Youforreal. said:
GT4RS said:
Youforreal. said:
GT4RS said:
Sidsw said:
very big discounts, added to opc loan car fleets and no new cars coming through as porsche ag try to manage the over supply mean that numbers have dropped. expect them to start increasing again as they start pushing out new model in next few months and porsche ag need to start building up sales figures again.
have been whispers that they will try drop number of cars back to 20k cars a year from the 26k+ they have pushed into the uk market the past year to try to make demand outstrip supply. cant see how that will work as im sure that shareholders will want to see numbers of sales increasing and not decreasing!
If porsche have to drop new car sales numbers by 26% like you mention above, that will be huge step backwards for them after they have pushed and pushed to ramp up Uk sales numbers. It will also have a huge impact on the number of staff needed in these opc. Most opc over the last 10 years are growing in size, not shrinking. have been whispers that they will try drop number of cars back to 20k cars a year from the 26k+ they have pushed into the uk market the past year to try to make demand outstrip supply. cant see how that will work as im sure that shareholders will want to see numbers of sales increasing and not decreasing!
Porsche Germany make the big profits from selling new cars, they will not want to go backwards.
If sales continue to slow, Uk opc will just have to become more creative on how they get their new car sales over the line.
Sadly I think a big factor to Porsches future success now lies with the new electric Macan and new Taycan.
Genuine question.
Because it’s a brand I have been buying since 2009, 8 new cars Porsches so far and I like their engineering. Well not so much the engineering on the new stuff as the electric does nothing for me and certain models are slowing becoming more like an Audi by the minute.
As some will be aware the 991.2 and 718 gt4 have been sold and not replaced. But still own one of two macans gts we have more for family duties.
Why do you take the time to read this thread and other porsche threads and comment if you couldn’t care less about values, availability and what porsche are doing?
You must have an interest our you wouldn’t be reading these threads.
Suppose some people just own a car in different ways and was honestly not getting at you but I had to ask as I was always curious…..didn’t realise you had owned so many!
As said new here and had just picked on your gt4 that gave you issues on your driveway sadly.
I’d say you’ll be looking a car with lift next time round.
Yes the gt4 was probably a saw point in my porsche ownership experience. If I’m honest it didn’t even cross my mind that it wouldn’t easily get into my home garage, totally my fault.
As I have mentioned before to others, I offered the car straight back to the supplying dealer due to the issues getting in and out of the garage. I was happy for them to have the car back, make what ever profit they wanted with the option of being able to specify a new gt car in the future with lift. Sadly this wasn’t an option for the opc I use at the tile and I was left no choice and ended up trading it to an another OPC I have sold some of my other previous Porsches too.
The issue I have is a new electric Macan or Taycan is of zero interest to me. There’s no point replacing the existing Macan gts for a new one, in my eyes apart from the bumpers it’s the same car and if I was to buy another 911 or cayman I would like it to be a new gt car with lift. Which I’m not worthy of.
The sad thing is I’ve been a huge porsche fan all my life and as a hole enjoyed the porsche ownership experience with excellent service from certain people from the opc we have always used.
Cheib said:
Sidsw said:
tescor said:
SMMT numbers for March are available - https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrati...
A 15% drop for Porsche for March, year on year...
Year to date sales are down almost 20% on last year
figures are probably worse than that. lots of cars have been pre registered over the past few months making figures look better than they are!A 15% drop for Porsche for March, year on year...
Year to date sales are down almost 20% on last year
Article on The Times website this afternoon about EV sales. Manufacturers have to hit a target for EV's of 22% of sales this year, fine of £15k per car if they miss it.
PinkHouse said:
Cheib said:
Sidsw said:
tescor said:
SMMT numbers for March are available - https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrati...
A 15% drop for Porsche for March, year on year...
Year to date sales are down almost 20% on last year
figures are probably worse than that. lots of cars have been pre registered over the past few months making figures look better than they are!A 15% drop for Porsche for March, year on year...
Year to date sales are down almost 20% on last year
Article on The Times website this afternoon about EV sales. Manufacturers have to hit a target for EV's of 22% of sales this year, fine of £15k per car if they miss it.
I'd imagine these are shouting the loudest!
I now understand why Porsche aren't worried about 992's hanging about.
GT4RS said:
Youforreal. said:
GT4RS said:
Youforreal. said:
GT4RS said:
Sidsw said:
very big discounts, added to opc loan car fleets and no new cars coming through as porsche ag try to manage the over supply mean that numbers have dropped. expect them to start increasing again as they start pushing out new model in next few months and porsche ag need to start building up sales figures again.
have been whispers that they will try drop number of cars back to 20k cars a year from the 26k+ they have pushed into the uk market the past year to try to make demand outstrip supply. cant see how that will work as im sure that shareholders will want to see numbers of sales increasing and not decreasing!
If porsche have to drop new car sales numbers by 26% like you mention above, that will be huge step backwards for them after they have pushed and pushed to ramp up Uk sales numbers. It will also have a huge impact on the number of staff needed in these opc. Most opc over the last 10 years are growing in size, not shrinking. have been whispers that they will try drop number of cars back to 20k cars a year from the 26k+ they have pushed into the uk market the past year to try to make demand outstrip supply. cant see how that will work as im sure that shareholders will want to see numbers of sales increasing and not decreasing!
Porsche Germany make the big profits from selling new cars, they will not want to go backwards.
If sales continue to slow, Uk opc will just have to become more creative on how they get their new car sales over the line.
Sadly I think a big factor to Porsches future success now lies with the new electric Macan and new Taycan.
Genuine question.
Because it’s a brand I have been buying since 2009, 8 new cars Porsches so far and I like their engineering. Well not so much the engineering on the new stuff as the electric does nothing for me and certain models are slowing becoming more like an Audi by the minute.
As some will be aware the 991.2 and 718 gt4 have been sold and not replaced. But still own one of two macans gts we have more for family duties.
Why do you take the time to read this thread and other porsche threads and comment if you couldn’t care less about values, availability and what porsche are doing?
You must have an interest our you wouldn’t be reading these threads.
Suppose some people just own a car in different ways and was honestly not getting at you but I had to ask as I was always curious…..didn’t realise you had owned so many!
As said new here and had just picked on your gt4 that gave you issues on your driveway sadly.
I’d say you’ll be looking a car with lift next time round.
Yes the gt4 was probably a saw point in my porsche ownership experience. If I’m honest it didn’t even cross my mind that it wouldn’t easily get into my home garage, totally my fault.
As I have mentioned before to others, I offered the car straight back to the supplying dealer due to the issues getting in and out of the garage. I was happy for them to have the car back, make what ever profit they wanted with the option of being able to specify a new gt car in the future with lift. Sadly this wasn’t an option for the opc I use at the tile and I was left no choice and ended up trading it to an another OPC I have sold some of my other previous Porsches too.
The issue I have is a new electric Macan or Taycan is of zero interest to me. There’s no point replacing the existing Macan gts for a new one, in my eyes apart from the bumpers it’s the same car and if I was to buy another 911 or cayman I would like it to be a new gt car with lift. Which I’m not worthy of.
The sad thing is I’ve been a huge porsche fan all my life and as a hole enjoyed the porsche ownership experience with excellent service from certain people from the opc we have always used.
Youforreal. said:
There are some nice gt cars with lift that do appear for sale but do seem to carry a premium, I’ll never get on any list either but not so bothered as I ha not much interest in current Porsche , I’m after/would like a .2 997 gt3 but prices are still a bit to strong for me to comfortably afford :-(
Maybe a 'Lots of old Porsches immediately available' thread is needed :-)Youforreal. said:
would like a .2 997 gt3 :-(
If you are looking for a car to keep and are concerned about values falling this is sensible purchase hence the strong prices, cannot see one falling in value like many post 2013 GT cars as numbers built is very low compared to modern gt products.So a good one is going to cost in excess of £100k
GT4P said:
Youforreal. said:
would like a .2 997 gt3 :-(
If you are looking for a car to keep and are concerned about values falling this is sensible purchase hence the strong prices, cannot see one falling in value like many post 2013 GT cars as numbers built is very low compared to modern gt products.So a good one is going to cost in excess of £100k
It’s just the value of them at the moment, just a bit beyond a stretch I’m comfortable with, I’ve no gripe at all with the prices that are asked but my wallet has.
I’ll just keep putting some buy and if prices don’t move much possibly in another 12/18 months will being closer to one at current prices.
guyvert1 said:
Youforreal. said:
There are some nice gt cars with lift that do appear for sale but do seem to carry a premium, I’ll never get on any list either but not so bothered as I ha not much interest in current Porsche , I’m after/would like a .2 997 gt3 but prices are still a bit to strong for me to comfortably afford :-(
Maybe a 'Lots of old Porsches immediately available' thread is needed :-)PinkHouse said:
I can't believe manufacturers haven't banded together to lobby for that regulation to be repealed. It's absolute madness and completely unsustainable
I am sure the manufacturers will blame the Govt because they’ve moved the date from 2030 to ‘35 but the slowdown in EV sales is a global issue looking at Tesla’s sales numbers. I’d say manufacturers need to look at themselves as much as blame the Govt eg Tesla are the only one that have invested in infrastructure in any scale.Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff