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hunter 66 said:
My OPC were nice and helpful finally on my service visit , interesting every time I go in , get asked do I want to buy a Sport Classic for over 300k , err no they are in my eyes very ugly , "retro kit look"gone wrong , also GT4 RS and Dakar go down in price every visit .
How often does your car need servicing?Has anyone noticed there are a lot more new and used 992's on Auto Trader these days than is on the Porsche website.
From OPC's I might add (obviously there will be more otherwise).
According to AT there are 103 new 992's for sale but on the official Porsche site there are only 43.
From OPC's I might add (obviously there will be more otherwise).
According to AT there are 103 new 992's for sale but on the official Porsche site there are only 43.
Edited by Geoffcapes on Friday 17th May 12:51
Taycan not even in the top 10 of EV losses according to car wow.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eGS34ENu4S4
You need to buy these things and use them properly for a few years to get the value out of them. Definitely not the car for the guy that likes to polish the car every week and drive to a restaurant once a month!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eGS34ENu4S4
You need to buy these things and use them properly for a few years to get the value out of them. Definitely not the car for the guy that likes to polish the car every week and drive to a restaurant once a month!
Grantstown said:
Taycan not even in the top 10 of EV losses according to car wow.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eGS34ENu4S4
You need to buy these things and use them properly for a few years to get the value out of them. Definitely not the car for the guy that likes to polish the car every week and drive to a restaurant once a month!
If one is a high mileage driver and buy cars in finance, electric cars on lease makes the most sense, there are enough that one would only need to charge once travelling from London to Edinburgh. The monthly payment on them would not be so far from fuel cost per month alone using ICE carshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eGS34ENu4S4
You need to buy these things and use them properly for a few years to get the value out of them. Definitely not the car for the guy that likes to polish the car every week and drive to a restaurant once a month!
Surely London to Edinburgh is not the best example to use?
If you have to charge once, say 70kw? Out and about that is around 79p a kw? So £55 to do 220 miles?
Let's presume the first half of the journey is completely free, that still more expensive than a huge number of ICE cars.
Add in cost to buy new vs ice car, depreciation vs ice car and I think they only make financial sense for company car owners who have cheap rate charging at home and don't ever exceed the range of the car so don't have to charge out and about.
Sure buy one if you really like them, and many do, but financially they don't make sense to the average man on the street.
My wife has a BMW with the ZF8 and 2 litre diesel, I was running around all over the place weekend before last, 95% motorway work, but it got its best ever tankful and did 701 miles over the 2 days, and was saying 43 miles remaining when I got in on Sunday evening, although that dropped to 3 miles in morning when I started it up.
It will take 62-64 litres of diesel normally and costs £90-95 to fill up, she usually gets about 590-620 miles a tank.
So roughly £30 for 200 miles.
I should add, I quite like the idea of an EV, could have one through work, but no where to charge for me, so far too expensive.
If you have to charge once, say 70kw? Out and about that is around 79p a kw? So £55 to do 220 miles?
Let's presume the first half of the journey is completely free, that still more expensive than a huge number of ICE cars.
Add in cost to buy new vs ice car, depreciation vs ice car and I think they only make financial sense for company car owners who have cheap rate charging at home and don't ever exceed the range of the car so don't have to charge out and about.
Sure buy one if you really like them, and many do, but financially they don't make sense to the average man on the street.
My wife has a BMW with the ZF8 and 2 litre diesel, I was running around all over the place weekend before last, 95% motorway work, but it got its best ever tankful and did 701 miles over the 2 days, and was saying 43 miles remaining when I got in on Sunday evening, although that dropped to 3 miles in morning when I started it up.
It will take 62-64 litres of diesel normally and costs £90-95 to fill up, she usually gets about 590-620 miles a tank.
So roughly £30 for 200 miles.
I should add, I quite like the idea of an EV, could have one through work, but no where to charge for me, so far too expensive.
Edited by Ed.Neumann on Sunday 19th May 12:15
Well it depends on the mix. I do about 30,000 miles a year. Has 2 cars for personal use: Peugeot 208gti by peugeot sport and Porsche GT4 PDK. Peugeot is my daily and for work commute and has no finance on it. It can do 35mpg to 53mpg depending on how you drive it. Motorway doing 60mph would get you 53mpg and doing 75-77mpg would get you 40-44mpg and driving it through B road and redlining it would get you 35mpg or so.
I do Newcastle to Margate round trip twice a month = 1400miles and Newcastle and Oxford once a month 550 miles round trip.
GT4 is just for weekends. So not included in the calculation
I spend about £425/month in fuel alone using the peugeot
If I were to get an electric car that can do 450+ mile per charge like EQS. All the apps including Chargemap, ABRP say that 1 charge at home would take me to Margate. The total electric cost per months using Octopus overnight charging tariff of 7-8p per KWH for EV would mean spending at most £50/month for 30,000 miles per year . A gain of at least £350 per months over buying petrol for me
In my head if EV with long ranges become cheap enough so that I can lease one for 30,000 miles a year for £400-500/ month, the total cost of ownership including fuel cost would be much cheaper than buying or leasing an ICE car (lease of £400/month + fuel of £400 per month)
Of course, electric cars lack the emotion and characters of ICE cars, one of the main reasons, I am holding on to my ICE cars
I do Newcastle to Margate round trip twice a month = 1400miles and Newcastle and Oxford once a month 550 miles round trip.
GT4 is just for weekends. So not included in the calculation
I spend about £425/month in fuel alone using the peugeot
If I were to get an electric car that can do 450+ mile per charge like EQS. All the apps including Chargemap, ABRP say that 1 charge at home would take me to Margate. The total electric cost per months using Octopus overnight charging tariff of 7-8p per KWH for EV would mean spending at most £50/month for 30,000 miles per year . A gain of at least £350 per months over buying petrol for me
In my head if EV with long ranges become cheap enough so that I can lease one for 30,000 miles a year for £400-500/ month, the total cost of ownership including fuel cost would be much cheaper than buying or leasing an ICE car (lease of £400/month + fuel of £400 per month)
Of course, electric cars lack the emotion and characters of ICE cars, one of the main reasons, I am holding on to my ICE cars
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