To buy or not to buy through Porsche Dealership Network

To buy or not to buy through Porsche Dealership Network

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Cpb1702

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418 posts

116 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Just bought a 70 plate Taycan through Porsche dealer however a friend is looking for similar car but through non Porsche network, with a likely saving on the same car £10k ish?

Appreciate he can buy a Porsche warranty for £2k if you get the 111 check done.

I’m starting to wonder should I have bought outside the network so I dont loose my shirt when I sell the car on in couple of years?

What have been your experiences would you buy outside the network?

Discombobulate

4,855 posts

187 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Yes I would.

fistenburger

267 posts

191 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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I bought my previous 911 through an OPC because it was my first Porsche and a first time spending big money on a car. I wanted the reassurance of a warranty and a reputable dealer.
I bought my current car via RPMTechnik and it was a great experience. The warranty transferred and their post-sale inspection was IMHO far better than the OPC. The car was prepared to a much higher standard.
You can buy a warranty to put on a car if you don't have one. There's another thread on here with an indication of process and prices. You need a 111 point check, but don't fear it.

ChrisW.

6,335 posts

256 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Whilst I agree with this it depends also on where you can find the car you really want to buy ...

If with an OPC I wouldn't rule them out ... they are businesses and are amenable to negotiation. The problem is that they have also given themselves "flash" overheads ...

Somehow the staff of the big OPC's appear to be quite remote from their customers which I think is the cause of their mistakes which in my experience appear to be rather more common than with my local specialist ... (though they can happen !)

TDT

4,947 posts

120 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Depends on the car... for a Taycan... I'd only buy from an OPC - as that comes with full Porsche warranty in all cases - and I'd want complete 'no questions asked' coverage for it including just flat out return and get my money back & maybe some goodwill ... knowing how many issues and updates they seemingly require.
Of course you can buy outside and add extended warranty - but that coverage isn't still quite the same as full factory or approved used which extends the factory warranty if the car is under 3 years old... so you get a max of just about 5years full factory.

For a traditional ICE car... again it depends on the car... but would be more open.


Edited by TDT on Tuesday 28th March 11:03

DMC2

1,835 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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I wouldn't touch a Taycan without warranty. I most definitely wouldn't buy one without an extensive test drive to make sure it isn't a dog

Far Cough

2,242 posts

169 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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As above , The Taycan seems to have been the victim of many updates and electrical niggles. I`d want full comeback from an OPC unless I had some sort of extremely reliable relationship with the indy selling it .

Last time I was in my local OPC in the service department there was a guy there and the first thing I heard the service manager say was " .......but you didnt buy it here did you ".................... you dont want to be that guy when your cars broken down and need help.

ParkerG

66 posts

74 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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I've owned a few Porsches, but I've always bought privately.

I don't feel inclined to pay for dealer overheads and the warranty can be transferred privately, so for me, there is no benefit in purchasing from a dealer.

The only exception I would make is if my perfect specification came up at an OPC, then maybe I'd give them my business.

DMC2

1,835 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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ParkerG said:
I've owned a few Porsches, but I've always bought privately.

I don't feel inclined to pay for dealer overheads and the warranty can be transferred privately, so for me, there is no benefit in purchasing from a dealer.

The only exception I would make is if my perfect specification came up at an OPC, then maybe I'd give them my business.
You are talking about Porsches with an engine I assume. Totally different prospect to the current batch of Taycan which have numerous issues. Before I got rid of mine it had to be lifted to the local OPC by the AA, the guy was telling me he had uplifted more Taycan in the past two months than all other Porsches combined.

av185

18,524 posts

128 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Whilst a used Porsche buyer MAY strike lucky buying a car outside the OPC network these cars invariably have a story big or small and generally fall outside the official network for a very good reason.

Rocket science it really ain't. biggrin:

deutsche.diagnostics

152 posts

14 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Not sure I quite agree with that, of course sometime that may be the case.



Often, we tend to buy the car we want, and that usually means trading in with that same dealer, whether they are an OPC or not.


Porsche don't tend to pay any more for your trade in than a specialist, but do tend to charge considerably more.

I traded a Macan for a Cayenne last week, and that was at an OPC, but the cost to change was no more than going with a no name trader, once the two year warranty was factored in it, and any good will going forward, it was a no brainer.
In the case of the Cayenne, all OPCs know the facelift is arriving this month, and so are starting to reduce their prices nicely on the current one, where as indys are not reacting. So, occasionally you get exceptions, so take advantage, but with OPCs it is rare.


I think it is tricky at the moment because there is so little stock, anywhere, not like you can chose the colour and spec you want from either an OPC or indy, just finding the car you want is tricky enough.



However, if you know you're going to change after 2 years, paying £10,000 more than you can buy elsewhere you need to accept it will cost you an extra £400 a month in deprecation. That, I agree, is not rocket science.

If you are a regular customer they will probably look after you a little better, but if it is your first Porsche from an OPC don't expect too much.




Edited by deutsche.diagnostics on Tuesday 28th March 20:22

av185

18,524 posts

128 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Dunno some are some aren't obviously. No guarantees.

Do you feel lucky? biggrin:

Orangecurry

7,430 posts

207 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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av185 said:
Whilst a used Porsche buyer MAY strike lucky buying a car outside the OPC network these cars invariably have a story big or small and generally fall outside the official network for a very good reason.

Rocket science it really ain't. biggrin:
Eh? Do you write speeches for Boris Johnson? Or do you need to qualify your statement?

av185 should have said:
Whilst a used Taycan buyer MAY strike lucky buying a Taycan outside the OPC network these Taycans invariably have a story big or small and generally fall outside the official network for a very good reason.
Is that what you meant?


av185

18,524 posts

128 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Orangecurry said:
av185 said:
Whilst a used Porsche buyer MAY strike lucky buying a car outside the OPC network these cars invariably have a story big or small and generally fall outside the official network for a very good reason.

Rocket science it really ain't. biggrin:
Eh? Do you write speeches for Boris Johnson? Or do you need to qualify your statement?

av185 should have said:
Whilst a used Taycan buyer MAY strike lucky buying a Taycan outside the OPC network these Taycans invariably have a story big or small and generally fall outside the official network for a very good reason.
Is that what you meant?
Nope.

Just checked whether a used Taycan is a used Porsche. Turns out it is. hehe

Looks like you need to qualify your statement smartarse. biggrin:

edberwick

4 posts

28 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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I’ve got the feeling I’m on a OPC blacklist. I was interested in a new Cayman last year but always wondered if I would regret not getting a 911, so I didn’t persue. Now I get blanked by OPC when enquiring, so I’m looking at other dealers, but as with fistenberger it’s my first Porsche, first premium car and I’d like the reassurance of a OPC. It’s getting to the stage I might just go to the BMW dealer down the road who seem desperate to sell me an M4.

Is there a best way of approaching an OPC?


Edited by edberwick on Wednesday 29th March 11:17

Orangecurry

7,430 posts

207 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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I didn't make any statements. I asked questions - they are the things with this '?' at the end.

av185 said:
Whilst a used Porsche buyer MAY strike lucky buying a car outside the OPC network these cars invariably have a story big or small and generally fall outside the official network for a very good reason.
This statement is incorrect, in every way.

av185 should have said:
Whilst a used Taycan buyer MAY strike lucky buying a Taycan outside the OPC network these Taycans invariably have a story big or small and generally fall outside the official network for a very good reason.
This statement may be slightly less wrong hehe

av185

18,524 posts

128 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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franki68

10,425 posts

222 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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edberwick said:
I’ve got the feeling I’m on a OPC blacklist. I was interested in a new Cayman last year but always wondered if I would regret not getting a 911, so I didn’t persue. Now I get blanked by OPC when enquiring, so I’m looking at other dealers, but as with fistenberger it’s my first Porsche, first premium car and I’d like the reassurance of a OPC. It’s getting to the stage I might just go to the BMW dealer down the road who seem desperate to sell me an M4.

Is there a best way of approaching an OPC?


Edited by edberwick on Wednesday 29th March 11:17
Why would you be on a blacklist ? If they think you are time waster try another opc there are loads of them .

alscar

4,182 posts

214 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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edberwick said:
I’ve got the feeling I’m on a OPC blacklist. I was interested in a new Cayman last year but always wondered if I would regret not getting a 911, so I didn’t persue. Now I get blanked by OPC when enquiring, so I’m looking at other dealers, but as with fistenberger it’s my first Porsche, first premium car and I’d like the reassurance of a OPC. It’s getting to the stage I might just go to the BMW dealer down the road who seem desperate to sell me an M4.

Is there a best way of approaching an OPC?


Edited by edberwick on Wednesday 29th March 11:17
Very much doubt you are being being blanked but what form does this blanking take ?!
I guess if you are looking at another Cayman order and are dealing with the same SA they might think you are a time waster perhaps in which case try a bit harder or look at a different OPC.
I have no idea what delivery times are now like but if their order book is “ full” that could also be why they aren’t falling over themselves to help.

GT4RS

4,441 posts

198 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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edberwick said:
I’ve got the feeling I’m on a OPC blacklist. I was interested in a new Cayman last year but always wondered if I would regret not getting a 911, so I didn’t persue. Now I get blanked by OPC when enquiring, so I’m looking at other dealers, but as with fistenberger it’s my first Porsche, first premium car and I’d like the reassurance of a OPC. It’s getting to the stage I might just go to the BMW dealer down the road who seem desperate to sell me an M4.

Is there a best way of approaching an OPC?


Edited by edberwick on Wednesday 29th March 11:17
Just try a different OPC, some are better than others.